Thai health ministry denies they are giving free jabs to expats - Thais come first

[2 is 1]

1 hour ago, WineOh said:

makes you feel so welcome, doesn't it?

 

If I didn't have mouths to feed I would be out of here like a shot.

Enough is enough.

 

Grass start to be much greener in Philippines. Want to go back there. Im going to get my first jab after 2 weeks. Second one after 3 month. In autumn i maybe send nice picture to Mrs. from Cebu. 

Drinking Red Horse (cheap) in this beach.

Edited May 5, 2021 by 2 is 1

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, time2093 said:

Ok wise one, why dont you ask your embassy for help and come back and tell us what they say.

Calm down dear, calm down.

[WineOh]

5 minutes ago, kotsak said:

 

He's got protection..

 

laughing all the way to the bank him and his mates.

 

 

it still amazes me the amount of BS the thai people swallow from him and his ilk.

 

They put up with far too much IMO.

[Surelynot]

7 minutes ago, kotsak said:

 

He's got protection..

 

Has the top of someone's head, bottom right, been clipped from the photo?

[jonclark]

I think everyone needs to calm down. 

 

The context to this seems to have been lost.

 

Thailand has very low vaccine stocks - This has been said by the government and is evidenced by them scrambling to find vaccines - the government thought incorrectly it could order vaccines at their convenience and they would arrive the next day, (probably expected Kerry to deliver). Thailand is quite far down the order list sadly and so rightly, their limited vaccines are being allocated on a needs basis.

 

In 6 - 9 months, when a covid vaccine is as common in any hospital as an influenza or MMR jab, anyone and everyone will be able to go and get one.

 

Do not get all hysterical and claim this is some xenophobic conspiracy. 

 

Everyone stay safe. stay at home, wear a mask and sanitizer hands thoroughly. 

Edited May 5, 2021 by jonclark

[Excel]

1 minute ago, WineOh said:

laughing all the way to the bank him and his mates.

 

 

it still amazes me the amount of BS the thai people swallow from him and his ilk.

 

They put up with far too much IMO.

Well the same could also be said of the brainwashing of the  Russians during the Stalin era

[AlexRich]

I think the US, Europe and Australasian countries should pass a reciprocal rights bill, that applies to all foreign visitors. So a Thai visitor would be denied healthcare until all indigenous citizens had been served, be told to report every month to immigration, and pay 5 times more to enter zoos, theme parks and national parks. 
 

it’s only fair.

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, WineOh said:

laughing all the way to the bank him and his mates.

 

 

it still amazes me the amount of BS the thai people swallow from him and his ilk.

 

They put up with far too much IMO.

The key is to ensure the population remains uneducated and generally gets by, by living hand to mouth.

[John Drake]

2 minutes ago, jonclark said:

n 6 - 9 months, when a covid vaccine is as common in any hospital as an influenza or MMR jab, anyone and everyone will be able to go and get one.

 

In 6-9 months, it likely will be time for a booster shot and the entire process will need to be repeated. To get that "surplus" required before giving a shot to farangs could take a couple of years.

[Geoffggi]

2 hours ago, Crossy said:

Indeed no real surprise although I thought that the CCSA who made this announcement were part of the Health Ministry.

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1215441-expats-in-thailand-to-receive-covid-19-vaccinations-free-of-charge/

 

Left hand and right hand as usual.

 

Must have forgotten to change hands at 99 ......................LOL

[WineOh]

3 minutes ago, Excel said:

Well the same could also be said of the brainwashing of the  Russians during the Stalin era

and the germans during the 1930's

 

The resemblance is striking! 

[jonclark]

1 minute ago, AlexRich said:

I think the US, Europe and Australasian countries should pass a reciprocal rights bill, that applies to all foreign visitors. So a Thai visitor would be denied healthcare until all indigenous citizens had been served, be told to report every month to immigration, and pay 5 times more to enter zoos, theme parks and national parks. 
 

it’s only fair.

 

I understand your frustration (after 20+ years of living here). But try not to be bitter. For developed countries to lower their standards so they align with Thailand's way of working (and thinking), would only be a backward step but would serve to vindicate and reinforce the poor standards that Thailand currently demonstrates.  

 

Do you think that would be a good thing? 

[JCauto]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

This is disgusting, plain and simple.

In one fell swoop, Thailand has proven that it is fifty years behind the rest of the world.

 

Including their Socialist neighbours, Laos and Cambodia. LOL!

[Surelynot]

4 minutes ago, jonclark said:

 

I understand your frustration (after 20+ years of living here). But try not to be bitter. For developed countries to lower their standards so they align with Thailand's way of working (and thinking), would only be a backward step but would serve to vindicate and reinforce the poor standards that Thailand currently demonstrates.  

 

Do you think that would be a good thing? 

Don't you just hate it when someone puts forward a well balanced, well reasoned argument.......555

[irwinfc]

1 hour ago, redwood1 said:

Do farangs come before Soi Dogs?

i believe the soi dogs, elephants, buffaloes, and monkeys come before farangs. i don't know the hierarchy  between insects and rodents, but we're somewhere there.

[4MyEgo]

1 hour ago, WineOh said:

'I said a flip-flop,  the flippy, the flippy to the flip, flip-flop and you don't stop the rockin' , to the bang bang boogie, say up jump the boogie to the rhythm of the boogie the beat!' ???? 

 

Rappers Delight, Sugar Hill Gang, top song, top band for their day.

[John Drake]

1 minute ago, jonclark said:

 

I understand your frustration (after 20+ years of living here). But try not to be bitter. For developed countries to lower their standards so they align with Thailand's way of working (and thinking), would only be a backward step but would serve to vindicate and reinforce the poor standards that Thailand currently demonstrates.  

 

Do you think that would be a good thing? 

 

I think most of us live with these double standards and accept them. I do. I expect to pay more than Thais. I expect Thai citizens to receive benefits that non-Thais cannot get. I don't expect nor do I seek to be accepted into Thai society. Even for the Covid shot, I'm willing to wait. I don't feel trapped. I have a roomy house in the suburbs of Bangkok, and a nice backyard to work in. Three 7 Elevens are within 100-200 meters, and a grocery I can easily walk to is 3.5 km away. When I saw this coming two weeks ago, I went to my physician and stocked up on my inner ear meds for two months. I can make it and am willing to wait. But that is for me. Many other foreigners on this forum are in a far more perilous situation. With Covid spreading, they need the vaccine now because of age, poor health, or medical complications. Their life is on the line. Why shouldn't they be bitter. I think they are justified to be bitter, angry, and desperate.

[FritsSikkink]

When do we get proper information from this department, it changes every day. Very sad.

[jonclark]

4 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

In 6-9 months, it likely will be time for a booster shot and the entire process will need to be repeated. To get that "surplus" required before giving a shot to farangs could take a couple of years.

 

I am not sure - This is a vaccine gold mine for all companies involved and I would bet my bottom dollar they are producing Vaccine at a phenomenal rate - The amount of cash thrown at rolling out vaccines is staggering. Moderna alone aims for 1 billion doses by the end of the year. I would imagine all the other manufacturers, Sinovac, Sputnik, AstraZeneca, J&J, Pfizer are looking at similar numbers.

 

With UK population now at 74% vaccinated and most of Europe at 30% (ish) USA aiming for 70% by July 2021. Chinas and India's numbers are harder to fathom but it is likely they are likewise in the same ball park.  But this all points to vaccines production at a high and sustained level. 

 

In 6 months no hospital is going to turn around a person and their wallet if they seek vaccination.  Despite the outrage of a very small but vocal group of Thai netizens. 

 

 

[Surelynot]

Just now, FritsSikkink said:

When do we get proper information from this department, it changes every day. Very sad.

I guess it is proper....for that day?

[John Drake]

1 minute ago, jonclark said:

 

I am not sure - This is a vaccine gold mine for all companies involved and I would bet my bottom dollar they are producing Vaccine at a phenomenal rate - The amount of cash thrown at rolling out vaccines is staggering. Moderna alone aims for 1 billion doses by the end of the year. I would imagine all the other manufacturers, Sinovac, Sputnik, AstraZeneca, J&J, Pfizer are looking at similar numbers.

 

With UK population now at 74% vaccinated and most of Europe at 30% (ish) USA aiming for 70% by July 2021. Chinas and India's numbers are harder to fathom but it is likely they are likewise in the same ball park.  But this all points to vaccines production at a high and sustained level. 

 

In 6 months no hospital is going to turn around a person and their wallet if they seek vaccination.  Despite the outrage of a very small but vocal group of Thai netizens. 

 

 

 

I'm going to give you a "thanks" for that, because I want it to be true.

[Surelynot]

Just now, jonclark said:

In 6 months no hospital is going to turn around a person and their wallet if they seek vaccination.

On the assumption they are allowed any access to vaccine supplies........?

[billsmart]

I don't care about the "free" part. I just want to get the "jabs." I'll pay. I just need to know where I can go to get in line. ❓

[animalmagic]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

It is about time that the World Health Organization got involved with and sorted out this so called government.

I would imagine that they are disgusted by their treatment of foreigners over this pandemic.

 

 

 

 

Would that be the World Health Organisation that covered itself in glory when the first outbreak occurred in China and from its thorough investigation of the source and holding people accountable?

Asking for a friend in Wuhan.

[Orinoco]

15 minutes ago, Excel said:

Well the same could also be said of the brainwashing of the  Russians during the Stalin era

But is Brainwashing truly possible in Thailand. ???? 

[Surelynot]

5 minutes ago, John Drake said:

With Covid spreading, they need the vaccine now because of age, poor health, or medical complications. Their life is on the line. Why shouldn't they be bitter. I think they are justified to be bitter, angry, and desperate.

I guess that is the crux of the problem......are we going to see perfectly healthy Thai teenagers and children being vaccinated, whilst expats in their 60's and upwards die?

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, billsmart said:

I don't care about the "free" part. I just want to get the "jabs." I'll pay. I just need to know where I can go to get in line. ❓

I think a trip back home....UK, USA or wherever is looking more and more likely.

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

Indeed no real surprise although I thought that the CCSA who made this announcement were part of the Health Ministry.

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1215441-expats-in-thailand-to-receive-covid-19-vaccinations-free-of-charge/

 

Left hand and right hand as usual.

 

To be fair, the article you quote states that expats will get the jab for free. It does not state when and in fact specifically states the details of when, are not available.

 

so I think left and right hand know exactly what they are doing : vaccinating Thais first while making vague promises that expats will get the jab free.

 

nothing new, nothing unexpected. Might as well move on and fend for ourselves as best we can.

[madmitch]

My guess is that when the AZ vaccine is ready, private hospitals will be able to buy from an approved Government source at an approved Government price, which could then be offered to foreigners at said private hospitals at a further inflated price. This enables everyone to make money: the Government, Siam Bioscience, corrupt officials and the hospitals, and we lowly farangs can get our jabs.

 

A win-win.

[wensiensheng]

30 minutes ago, jonclark said:

I think everyone needs to calm down. 

 

The context to this seems to have been lost.

 

Thailand has very low vaccine stocks - This has been said by the government and is evidenced by them scrambling to find vaccines - the government thought incorrectly it could order vaccines at their convenience and they would arrive the next day, (probably expected Kerry to deliver). Thailand is quite far down the order list sadly and so rightly, their limited vaccines are being allocated on a needs basis.

 

In 6 - 9 months, when a covid vaccine is as common in any hospital as an influenza or MMR jab, anyone and everyone will be able to go and get one.

 

Do not get all hysterical and claim this is some xenophobic conspiracy. 

 

Everyone stay safe. stay at home, wear a mask and sanitizer hands thoroughly. 

I’m not sure quite when a Covid vaccine will be common in Thailand. Last I heard they were ordering enough for about 50% of the population. The local producer will no doubt be exporting much of its production so it seems a bit up in the air to me.