TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Chiang Mai Bill said: A very strange graph! I see how India has a 'zero' figure for deaths -- but, on 12 May: India has posted a record rise in deaths from COVID-19 over the last 24 hours, pushing its total fatalities past the 250,000 mark. Good catch! Since that chart is a ONE DAY look, they may have been missing the data for India or not yet received it at the time the chart was put together. Here's an updated version of that same chart in which they've fixed that missing piece of data for India. Thailand's relative ranking in the world, though, pretty much remains the same. ]
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: No mention of any clusters in prisons. Sort of indicates those cases aren’t being counted. I doubt it’s deliberate concealment tbh, just the usual mess up of data collection. Its unclear at the moment? I guess they'll be scrambling around deciding what to say at the press briefing tomorrow, will be interesting to see. 4
Cake Monster Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: They say they are still capable of the handling the situation? Ok how, would love to see this in English, I guess Richard B or one of the media will do so soon. This will explain the erection of the Field Hospital in Klong Prem a week or so ago. They obviously knew then there was a Prison Covid outbreak, but have waited till today to publish the fact, 2
Popular Post anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 Thailand’s prisons have a COVID problem it doesn’t want to talk about The COVID-19 infections of high-profile political activists behind bars is calling attention to what’s feared to be a brewing crisis in Thailand’s sizable prison population. Panusaya “Rung” Sithijirawattanakul today became the eighth activist known to have contracted the disease while jailed. With access to all prisons shut down in response to an outbreak, the official silence about what’s going on is fueling fears of a major health threat to the incarcerated. “Before the day I was released, I learned that more than 50 people contracted the virus in the Central Women’s Correctional Institution, and I think right now that prison and others must have a large number of infected people,” Rung wrote, saying she had encountered dozens of infected inmates. “I demand the government and the Corrections Department immediately report the number of infected.” Read more: https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/thailands-prisons-have-a-covid-problem-it-doesnt-want-to-talk-about/ 1 2
Bkk Brian Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: This will explain the erection of the Field Hospital in Klong Prem a week or so ago. They obviously knew then there was a Prison Covid outbreak, but have waited till today to publish the fact, And only publish it when they had no choice due to all the high profile cases popping up. 2
anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: And only publish it when they had no choice due to all the high profile cases popping up. Exactly. Still waiting for that English translation from the Corrections Department Edited May 12, 2021 by anchadian 2
wensiensheng Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Import fees are only 14%, really? https://www.trade.gov/knowledge-product/thailand-import-tariffs Further, the country charges tariffs of 10% to 30% on certain audiovisual products and applies a 10% tariff on most pharmaceutical products, including products on the World Health Organization list of essential medicines. So who gets the additional 4% of these fees Mr. Anutin, is it a kickback to the MOPH. What a liar this man and his cronies are. Well, in theory any tax is a profit for the government, is it not? So profit is being at a percentage of between 10 and 14%.
Bradmeister Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 Cross contamination is now happening. Let's continue to overfill the hospitals, schools and clinics. Did we vaccinate the military personnel yet. Probably a good idea. Time to suspend all non essential government offices. Forget about the economy.... Steel just doubled in Thailand.... anyone look at domestic lumber in The West? Domestic, not imported went up last week 300% . Shipping costs, Sea or Air....astronomical. .....and were just getting started ! 1
anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392433229991276546 Health officials in Surat Thani reporting 73 new cases today. Most are in the city district and Don Sak. Koh Samui only has one new case today #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand 2
anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: And only publish it when they had no choice due to all the high profile cases popping up. Jonathan Head Did it not occur to them to test before their more famous inmates tested positive? A prison is an obvious place for the coronavirus to spread. I would assume they are testing regularly. Actually a prison should be a priority for vaccination. https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/1392432817175285760 1
anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392435216006868995 In Chanthaburi, they only had 14 new cases today. Seven from among the African community. So far, 174 foreigners and 403 Thais have tested positive, but fortunately no deaths. The recent outbreak was among gem traders #Thailand 1
bwpage3 Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Thailand's record number of 34 new COVID deaths reported Wednesday is being driven by a slow but steadily increasing number of critically ill patients who are filling up the nation's intensive care hospital beds. The country also set new pandemic records on Wednesday reporting 1,226 patients in critical condition and 401 of those requiring ventilators to breathe. That critical cases number has almost doubled over the past 16 days from 628 on April 27, and has increased almost daily during the past month. That number had been just a few dozen as of mid April. The rising numbers of critically ill COVID patients stands in stark contrast to Thailand's overall count of daily new COVID cases, which has been bouncing just above and below 2,000 per day for more than two weeks now, setting no clear trend, as with Wednesday's 1,983 new cases report. The critical condition group of patients is only a small share of the nearly 30,000 COVID positive patients currently hospitalized in some type of facility (about two-thirds in traditional hospitals and the remainder in makeshift field hospitals or other facilities) under a government policy to quarantine all positive cases. But that population has been steadily increasing, with new critical cases outstripping deaths or recoveries, to now pandemic record levels for Thailand, fueling the increasing death toll. The day before on Tuesday, Thailand had reported 31 new deaths, tying its prior high from May 3. A government spokeswoman, meanwhile, insisted that the country's medical facilities remain capable of handling the COVID hospitalizations, including the critical ones. "We can confirm that the existing medical facilities we have are still manageable and still able to accommodate patients, both with mild and severe symptoms," the spokeswoman said. The country currently is battling its so-called third wave of COVID cases that began at the start of April, and just since then has led to more than 60,000 cases and 392 of Thailand's total 486 official COVID deaths. The current outbreak is by far the country's worst since the start of the pandemic in early 2020. Overall, though, Thailand continues to fare better than many other nations in the COVID pandemic, with a relatively low per capita death rate and low rates of reported infections, though the latter may be aided by limited rates of testing. To combat the pandemic, Thailand has drastically curtailed its economic life blood of international tourism, and in the past month shuttered all schools and bars, nightclubs and other entertainment venues nationwide, closed many types of public gathering spots in Bangkok and adjoining provinces, and imposed a nationwide face mask wearing policy. The chart below shows the per capita COVID death rates for selected world countries on May 11, 2021, with Thailand ranking near the bottom based on deaths that day per million population. Weblink You can read all the charts and graphs you want. Who is reporting the data? Who is under-reporting the data? Who is doing extremely limited tested in hotspots only? Who is doing NO testing in a vast majority of other areas like rural Isaan? How are there 2,000+ new cases in one prison, when the prisoners are trapped inside? Anyone that thinks Thailand is fairing better than the rest of world, doesn't know Thailand very well. PS You know the Thailand that bought billions of fake bomb scanners, Blimp Airships to fly military missions that never did, millions on empty CTV boxes with no cameras installed, Thai Airways.... How much of the population has been tested to date? India in 6th place where Covid is so bad they are burning bodies in the streets? This chart is not even remotely close to telling the real facts. Oxford students, 100 only: OxCGRT collects publicly available information on 17 indicators of government responses, spanning containment and closure policies (such as such as school closures and restrictions in movement); economic policies; and health system policies (such as testing regimes). Government responses is what is reported by the government. It is the information the government wants you to believe. It is anyone's guess which countries are reporting the facts but I am pretty sure a student working is not going to be privy to inside govt information in every single country around the world dealing with covid. There is absolutely no validation or verification to the truth of these published government responses and statistics. And no, Thailand is not fairing well. Running out of beds and respirators. No mass vaccine rollout. 1
Popular Post anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, bwpage3 said: You can read all the charts and graphs you want. Who is reporting the data? Who is under-reporting the data? Who is doing extremely limited tested in hotspots only? Who is doing NO testing in a vast majority of other areas like rural Isaan? How are there 2,000+ new cases in one prison, when the prisoners are trapped inside? Anyone that thinks Thailand is fairing better than the rest of world, doesn't know Thailand very well. PS You know the Thailand that bought billions of fake bomb scanners, Blimp Airships to fly military missions that never did, millions on empty CTV boxes with no cameras installed, Thai Airways.... How much of the population has been tested to date? India in 6th place where Covid is so bad they are burning bodies in the streets? This chart is not even remotely close to telling the real facts. Oxford students, 100 only: OxCGRT collects publicly available information on 17 indicators of government responses, spanning containment and closure policies (such as such as school closures and restrictions in movement); economic policies; and health system policies (such as testing regimes). Government responses is what is reported by the government. It is the information the government wants you to believe. It is anyone's guess which countries are reporting the facts but I am pretty sure a student working is not going to be privy to inside govt information in every single country around the world dealing with covid. There is absolutely no validation or verification to the truth of these published government responses and statistics. And no, Thailand is not fairing well. Running out of beds and respirators. No mass vaccine rollout. I guess you're none too happy with Thailand. 3
Bkk Brian Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 Phuket: NEW CLUSTER Dr Kusak expressed concern for a cluster of infections centred on the Phoonpon area in Phuket Town. “We conducted proactive screening in the area by testing 131 people. A total of 15 people were confirmed infected,” Dr Kusak said. “We have conducted proactive screening in seven locations, testing about 1,500 people in total. Among those tested, six people were confirmed infected, Dr Kusal added. “We are still close to the critical stage. Even though two of our ICU beds are now free, we still have some patients that may develop symptoms of pneumonia later,” he said. Dr Withita Jaeng-iam, an epidemiologist at Vachira Phuket Hospital continued, “Right now, about 80% of the beds at Vachira Phuket Hospital are occupied, as are 44% of beds at the field hospital set up at PSU [Prince of Songkla University Phuket campus in Kathu], and 50% of beds at Dibuk Hospital. Of the ICU rooms [at government hospitals across the island], about 50% are used. https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-suffers-first-death-in-current-covid-outbreak-79982.php 2
placeholder Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, anchadian said: I guess you're none too happy with Thailand. Well, I looked at various news sources and it does look like the hospital ICUs are close to being overwhelmed with covid patients. In the past that wasn't the case. So this does call govt. statistics into serious question. Edited May 12, 2021 by placeholder
anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Phuket: NEW CLUSTER Dr Kusak expressed concern for a cluster of infections centred on the Phoonpon area in Phuket Town. “We conducted proactive screening in the area by testing 131 people. A total of 15 people were confirmed infected,” Dr Kusak said. “We have conducted proactive screening in seven locations, testing about 1,500 people in total. Among those tested, six people were confirmed infected, Dr Kusal added. “We are still close to the critical stage. Even though two of our ICU beds are now free, we still have some patients that may develop symptoms of pneumonia later,” he said. Dr Withita Jaeng-iam, an epidemiologist at Vachira Phuket Hospital continued, “Right now, about 80% of the beds at Vachira Phuket Hospital are occupied, as are 44% of beds at the field hospital set up at PSU [Prince of Songkla University Phuket campus in Kathu], and 50% of beds at Dibuk Hospital. Of the ICU rooms [at government hospitals across the island], about 50% are used. https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-suffers-first-death-in-current-covid-outbreak-79982.php And they still intend to open this so called sandbox model on 01 July. 1
Popular Post Marvin Hagler Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 This is absolutely rampant now...it’s everywhere and is a full blown outbreak...I feel bad for the people of Thailand that the numbers are being surpressed through low amounts of testing...every member of the Volleyball team, 3,000 inmates (which alone would bring today’s real numbers up to 5,000), villages closing in Korat, 150 people in Chantaburi...these are not random events. This is everywhere and the numbers are likely many times higher than we are led to believe. 4 1 2
johng Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said: Thailand that the numbers are being surpressed through low amounts of testing.. Some of us have been saying this from the start. 1
Popular Post anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 Indonesia study finds China's Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine highly effective in health workers An analysis of Indonesian healthcare workers inoculated with a COVID-19 vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech showed it was 98% effective at preventing death and 96% effective at preventing hospitalisation, a health ministry official said. The preliminary study was done from data on healthcare workers in the Indonesian capital Jakarta who had received the CoronaVac vaccine between January and March this year, lead researcher and health official Pandji Dhewantara said on Wednesday https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/indonesia-study-finds-chinas-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-highly-effective-health-2021-05-12/?taid=609ba3a012982200014dd448&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueA 6
Popular Post ExpatOilWorker Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 Oh, well add 2,835 to the tally tomorrow. 5
Excel Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Oh, well add 2,835 to the tally tomorrow. Think they will ? And remember that is just two prisons, think what the real total is and also do they report deaths due to covid19 if a prison inmate I wonder ? 1
Marvin Hagler Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Oh, well add 2,835 to the tally tomorrow. This will be interesting...if we have the standard 2,000 cases plus these 3,000 odd then tomorrow’s number has to be around 5,000 cases. Will be interesting to see what number does get published tomorrow. 2
anchadian Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Oh, well add 2,835 to the tally tomorrow. Too late, the damage has already been done. These infections are over a certain time, maybe we'll get a trickle tomorrow, if the authorities decide to report.
Popular Post DavisH Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, Donaldo said: 34 deaths on roughly a population of 74.000.000 . So about 0.046 %, which is also the average world death rate. What is the average death rate on Thailands streets ? As far as figures are concerned. The world population has grown by about 162.000.000 people since 2019. And this during the oh so deadly corona virus outbreak. It's time that people will wake up and realize that we are being manipulated and lied to by both the governments and main stream media. An agenda is being played out and corona is only the smoke screen that enables it to be enacted with little or no resistance. I remember a famous quote from Mark Twain. It is easier to fool people then to convince them that they have been fooled. Well, this is a novel observation LOL. Perhaps you missed the email, but traffic accidents are relatively constant. The spread of pathogens tends not to be if left uncontrolled. 3
Popular Post Marvin Hagler Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Donaldo said: I agree. If everybody would be tested we will realize that a much higher part of the population either had or has Covid 19. Not just in Thailand, but everywhere. This would also highlight the fact that this disease is way less lethal then we are made to believe. Only a small fraction of people affected develop complications which can result in death. Mostly among the elderly and those with medical preconditions. So why this complete overkill ? Is there something we are not supposed to know ? This is soooo April 2020 3
Freigeist365 Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) ...vs 50 road deaths on average every single day for several decades now (counted are only immediate deaths, not the possibly other 50 or more dying later at the hospital), vs 22% rise in suicides with one suicide attempt every ten minutes, vs Cancer with 19% of reported deaths being the leading cause of death in Thailand, followed by Ischemic (12%) heart disease and stroke (10%), vs the "fact" that we have "obviously" conquered influenza... food for thought, but thinking is so damn 2019, right???? Edited May 12, 2021 by Freigeist365
Popular Post placeholder Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, Freigeist365 said: ...vs 50 road deaths on average every single day for several decades now (counted are only immediate deaths, not the possibly other 50 or more dying later at the hospital), vs 22% rise in suicides with one suicide attempt every ten minutes, vs Cancer with 19% of reported deaths being the leading cause of death in Thailand, followed by Ischemic (12%) heart disease and stroke (10%), vs the "fact" that we have "obviously" conquered influenza... food for thought, but thinking is so 2019, right???? Let us all contemplate with admiration what your fellow serious thinkers have accomplished in countries like Brazil, Mexico, the USA, India and so many more. Clearly what they understand and we don't is that there is no difference between a contagious illness that has overwhelmed public health systems and car accidents, and other non-contagious diseases. I, for one, marvel at your perspicacity. 2 3
Freigeist365 Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, placeholder said: Let us all contemplate with admiration what your fellow serious thinkers have accomplished in countries like Brazil, Mexico, the USA, India and so many more. Clearly what they understand and we don't is that there is no difference between a contagious illness that has overwhelmed public health systems and car accidents, and other non-contagious diseases. I, for one, marvel at your perspicacity. Did you take into account that the worldwide health system has desperately being downsized and money-drained to death over the past two decades? One might even think it was purposely done, especially when looking at Germany... The health system would not be overwhelmed, if doctors, nurses and hospital staff worldwide would be paid well, kept happy, educated properly and steadily increased to be a proper buffer for any eventualities... But now, the politicians a "Placeholder" most likely would hail and honour, have destroyed the health system to a point where even a highly contagious flu could push the whole world over the edge. But don't worry, "Placeholder" (you truly chose your name wisely, dear) help is coming: Pfizer, Gates, Soros, Klaus Schwab and friends will come to thy rescue... "Just a little pinprick" and you will be on your feet again to make it through the show. All the best to you, love! Edited May 12, 2021 by Freigeist365 1 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, Freigeist365 said: Did you take into account that the worldwide health system has desperately being downsized and money-drained to death in the past two decades? One might even think it was purposely done, especially when looking at Germany... The health system would not be overwhelmed, if doctors, nurses and hospital staff worldwide would be paid well, kept happy, educated properly and steadily increased to be a proper buffer for any eventualities... But now, the politicians a "Placeholder" most likely would hail and honour, have destroyed the health system to a point where even a highly contagious flu could push the whole world over the edge. But don't worry, "Placeholder" (you truly chose your name wisely, dear) help is coming: Pfizer, Gates, Soros, Klaus Schwab and friends will come to thy rescue... "Just a little pin <deleted>..." and you will be on your feet again to make it through the show. All the best to you, love! I have no idea how you construed what I wrote the way you did. I was replying to a particularly foolish post that claimed car accidents, heart disease, and cancer deaths were somehow comparable to the current pandemic. 4
Freigeist365 Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, placeholder said: I have no idea how you construed what I wrote the way you did. I was replying to a particularly foolish post that claimed car accidents, heart disease, and cancer deaths were somehow comparable to the current pandemic. Ouote: "a contagious illness that has overwhelmed public health systems" end quote... There's the red line you were searching for, love.
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