sqwakvfr Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) Maybe or Maybe not? Look at the guy with the camera? http://www.foxnews.com/images/522000/1_21_p4590.jpg Edited June 18, 2021 by sqwakvfr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said: Look at the guy with the camera? A leading KGB agent in eastern Germany with polo shirt and camera at a state visit in Moscow? No. Or did he really have plastic surgery ???? His nose of today is by no means similar to that of the "camera man". Edited June 18, 2021 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) I dunno. Maybe? The Gipper "meets" the Ripper? Does it really matter? Of course there were spies there. Putin at the time wasn't all that anyway. Nobody could have predicted his and Russia's fate then. When Reagan met Putin in Red Square? - The Washington Post Edited June 18, 2021 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Maybe? Posing as "average Wladimir" accidentally coming across? Normally you would expect that an area is wiped of all common people for such a "walk". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: A leading KGB agent in eastern Germany with polo shirt and camera at a state visit in Moscow? No. Or did he really have plastic surgery ???? His nose of today is by no means similar to that of the "camera man". I thought Putin was ex FSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 These kinds of coincidences are fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgw Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: I thought Putin was ex FSB. there was no Fé Ès Bé in 1988. and no way the guy in the pic is Putin, the face is totally different 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: These kinds of coincidences are fun though. these aren't coincidences. most presidents came from the same social group, many have met each other before in one way or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, tgw said: these aren't coincidences. most presidents came from the same social group, many have met each other before in one way or another Not Bill Clinton and JFK, their family backgrounds were totally different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Not Bill Clinton and JFK, their family backgrounds were totally different. correct for Bill Clinton, but many others come from the same social groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, tgw said: correct for Bill Clinton, but many others come from the same social groups Agreed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) On 6/18/2021 at 8:30 PM, Kwasaki said: I thought Putin was ex FSB. As already written. The other way round. FSB is the successor organization of the KGB. Putin was KGB officer in east Germany. He also had an ID card of the east German Stasi (Ministry for State Security) which allowed him access to most Stasi facilities. Photos of the card have found it's way to the net. Widely published. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543 The photo is likely from 1985. Quite good for comparison with the thread topic, Edited June 20, 2021 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: As already written. The other way round. FSB is the successor organization of the KGB. Putin was KGB officer in east Germany. He also had an ID card of the east German Stasi (Ministry for State Security) which allowed him access to most Stasi facilities. Photos of the card have found it's way to the net. Widely published. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543 The photo is likely from 1985. Quite good for comparison with the thread topic, Interesting I have always liked the guy, and going off topic I'd just like to see the West have more meetings and talks with the likes of Russia, China and Iran instead of threats and sanctions, I see Putin as a key negotiator if the 4 got together. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Kwasaki said: Interesting I have always liked the guy, and going off topic I'd just like to see the West have more meetings and talks with the likes of Russia, China and Iran instead of threats and sanctions, I see Putin as a key negotiator if the 4 got together. So you like one of the if not the most corrupt and despot rulers. OK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, stevenl said: So you like one of the if not the most corrupt and despot rulers. OK. Yeah it's pretty bizarre how many westerners support that dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, stevenl said: So you like one of the if not the most corrupt and despot rulers. OK. I don't know really I haven't met him. I obviously don't always form an opinion of someone via media. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Interesting I have always liked the guy, and going off topic I'd just like to see the West have more meetings and talks with the likes of Russia, China and Iran instead of threats and sanctions, I see Putin as a key negotiator if the 4 got together. 4 hours ago, Kwasaki said: I don't know really I haven't met him. I obviously don't always form an opinion of someone via media. So you like the guy but you don't know him so you don't know if you like him. It is a well established fact that he is extremely corrupt and a despot, but you don't base yourself on media reports, except when you decide you like him. Is that an accurate description of what you are saying here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 Vladimir Putin. For any president or prime minister he would be a worthy opponent. Also, he has been in power now for 20 years. He may never go away. "Opposition'? What opposition? Land wise Russia is large. Population wise it is small. Military wise they are formidable. So the world will have to deal with Vlad for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 hours ago, stevenl said: So you like the guy but you don't know him so you don't know if you like him. It is a well established fact that he is extremely corrupt and a despot, but you don't base yourself on media reports, except when you decide you like him. Is that an accurate description of what you are saying here? I wouldn't judge you either but you have help at the top of the page to get to understand my intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 10 hours ago, stevenl said: So you like one of the if not the most corrupt and despot rulers. OK. Doesn't matter what we think of him. The Russkies keep re-electing him, and by huge margins. And they're better aware of who and what he is than any of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, impulse said: Doesn't matter what we think of him. The Russkies keep re-electing him, and by huge margins. And they're better aware of who and what he is than any of us. Those aren't real elections. Putin murders any potentially threatening opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 4 hours ago, sqwakvfr said: Vladimir Putin. For any president or prime minister he would be a worthy opponent. Also, he has been in power now for 20 years. He may never go away. "Opposition'? What opposition? Land wise Russia is large. Population wise it is small. Military wise they are formidable. So the world will have to deal with Vlad for a long time. Sure. As long as he lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 11 hours ago, impulse said: Doesn't matter what we think of him. The Russkies keep re-electing him, and by huge margins. And they're better aware of who and what he is than any of us. Yes, and last week there was a presidential election in Iran which yielded a very clear victor, the week before there was another one, don't remember where now, where the victory went to someone with 99% or so. Do you really think those elections in Russia give us a true indicationof how he is seen there? BTW, I feel he would also get reelected in fair elections, simply because he managed to put Russia back on the world stage, and pride is tremendous there. Does that mean he is not a despot and is not corrupt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, stevenl said: BTW, I feel he would also get reelected in fair elections, simply because he managed to put Russia back on the world stage, and pride is tremendous there. Does that mean he is not a despot and is not corrupt? If Putin were to keel over tomorrow by heart attack, how long do you figure a kinder, gentler, less corrupt replacement would survive? And how much damage would the oligarchs/mobsters do to Russia with a weaker leader? I don't propose to speak for the Russian people. It's up to them to elect the leaders they think they need under their conditions. Here's what I do know... Russkies (and the oligarchs) won't tolerate a weak leader. Edited June 21, 2021 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 It might be of interest to some especially Reagan fans to know that there is film/movie about Reagan coming our next year starring Dennis Quaid as Ronnie in later life, I eagerly await this and hope it lives up to expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I've seen pics of Putin when he was young, always had that beady-eyed stare. It's not him, and anyway the source is Fox. That camera is probably as much of a camera as the one Connery sported in "From Russia With Love." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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