Thailand reports 5,406 new COVID-19 cases, 22 more deaths

[Olmate]

2 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Yes they test if they take you to test! Those people feel sick and go hospital! Nothing lock down!

Even wife's girl is in school today, every other week half student in school! Nice to go van in school where is 12 people in. Van pick up kids first from village where was just 4 case!

Your point was about returnees from bkk.are youpleased they have toquarantine? 

[club]

1 minute ago, AndyFoxy said:

I keep reading about the big opening, My question is......who is actually going to come?

I am sure their on many cancelations happing as we speak after seeing these new numbers today

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, AndyFoxy said:

I keep reading about the big opening, My question is......who is actually going to come?

Think the majority would have family or at very least strong connection.

 

As for tourists....you would need rocks in your head to holiday in Thailand.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Expats including foreign teachers receive COVID vaccination at Central Phuket as Phuket heads towards the reopening of the island to vaccinated tourists from July 1.

@TNAMCOT

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1409402828607541249

 

Yep got mine this morning at Jung Ceylon, Astra Zeneca

[2 is 1]

2 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Your point was about returnees from bkk.are youpleased they have toquarantine? 

What?! Nobody go quarantine if they not tested sick and they not test nobody if you not walk in hospital!

[club]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yep got mine this morning at Jung Ceylon, Astra Zeneca

When do you get your second jab?

[James105]

1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:

You had better produce a chart showing the trajectory of UK cases during the country’s period of lock down and show that the case count was higher at the end of it, than at the beginning.

 

you’re going to be hard pushed to do that, but go ahead and try. If you can’t, there is no debate necessary, you are just plain wrong and the facts show it.

 

The lockdown started on 5th November and whilst its not as simple as that as there were tiered restrictions in different parts of the UK the cases went up from there peaking in January and sharply declining in March which (and this could be a coincidence) is in line with when other seasonal viruses decline.    

 

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/timeline-lockdown-web.pdf

 

Also, states in the US without lockdowns have fared no differently to states that pursued hard lockdowns.   Also Peru.  

 

Whether you choose to believe that the lockdowns were the "cause" of this decline (despite peaking during lockdown) or whether other factors (seasonality) were relevant is entirely up to you.   To have such a belief in lockdowns despite contrary evidence is quite baffling to me, but considering the human capacity to believe in religion it's not overly surprising.   

[anchadian]

Asymptomatic patients to isolate at home, save hospital beds

 

A “home isolation” programme will mitigate the shortage of hospital beds for severe Covid cases in Bangkok and surrounding provinces, the Department of Medical Services (DMS) said on Monday.

 

The programme will see younger patients with mild or no symptoms sent home instead of held in medical facilities, as has been the procedure until now. The beds made available are to be converted to care for very ill patients. No start date was given.

 

“There are many infected people who are waiting for hospital beds at home,” said Dr Somsak Akksilp, the DMS’s director-general. He said beds in intensive care unit (ICU) at hospitals in Bangkok and surrounding provinces are now 90 per cent full.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/29042/asymptomatic-patients-to-isolate-at-home-save-hospital-beds/

[Olmate]

3 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

What?! Nobody go quarantine if they not tested sick and they not test nobody if you not walk in hospital!

So no local reporting of new arrivals.Dont  believe that.

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, James105 said:

To have such a belief in lockdowns despite contrary evidence is quite baffling to me, but considering the human capacity to believe in religion it's not overly surprising.   

Why don't you include the Melbourne lockdown in your spiel.

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, James105 said:

but considering the human capacity to believe in religion it's not overly surprising.  

So you wish to insult folk and bring religion into it. 

 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, club said:

When do you get your second jab?

18th Sept so around 12 weeks

[club]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

18th Sept so around 12 weeks

OK be safe

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, James105 said:

Whether you choose to believe that the lockdowns were the "cause" of this decline (despite peaking during lockdown) or whether other factors (seasonality) were relevant is entirely up to you.   To have such a belief in lockdowns despite contrary evidence is quite baffling to me, but considering the human capacity to believe in religion it's not overly surprising.  

You really are talking absolute nonsense, I seriously think you should consider whether Thailand is the right place for you, perhaps a little trip over to Brazil, Mexico or India would make you feel happier.

[James105]

13 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Why don't you include the Melbourne lockdown in your spiel.

 

My original point was that when infections are in the thousands per day then lockdowns do not make much difference.   Melbourne is not relevant to that point.    

[Bkk Brian]

Up up and away, hospitals taking the brunt of the positive case count blue bar

https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/280664.pdf

 

[Pattaya Spotter]

2 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

So you have flipped from a statement that the range of cases in Thailand has been 3k to 5k  for several months, to suddenly talking about exponential growth.

 

that wouldn’t be because the chart of thai Covid cases shows that a level of 3k cases was only reached a couple of weeks ago and before that was hovering around 2k cases for quite some time, is it? So your original statement was nonsense.

 

but congratulations on the denderesque scale of your deflection. I will let others talk to you about exponential growth, the point I made about the inaccuracy of your comment on the range of Thai Covid cases over the last several months, appears proven by your sudden desire to talk about something else.

The COVID-19 situation has turned increasingly serious since April, when the third wave of infections hit. Thousands of new cases and dozens of deaths have been recorded each day. As of June 27, COVID-19 has infected 244,447 people in Thailand and killed 1,912 of them.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/sandbox-or-quicksand-thailand-on-edge-as-phuket-prepares-to-welcome-back-foreign-tourists/

 

You can post all you want about exponential spread of the virus, and how serious the current situation is, but the facts show otherwise: a virus borne illness with a 0.0078217364 or < 1% mortality rate (since April for Thailand). Concern yes...panic no.

 

Edited June 28, 2021 by Pattaya Spotter

[Bkk Brian]

Delta starting to increase as expected

 

Supakit said the

Alpha (U.K.) variant is mostly responsible for the ongoing outbreak in the country at 86.31 percent of the cases, followed by Delta (India) at 12.30 percent and Beta (S. Africa) variants at 1.39 percent.

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1409403331114508289

 

[robblok]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You really are talking absolute nonsense, I seriously think you should consider whether Thailand is the right place for you, perhaps a little trip over to Brazil, Mexico or India would make you feel happier.

Yes a good solution to deal with all those anti vaxers covid deniers would be a trip to India and they won't need to lockdown or wear masks. Just mingle around. Then after a while Darwin will do the rest.

 

Its scary how those tinfoil hat people don't seem to accept science and logic.

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The COVID-19 situation has turned increasingly serious since April, when the third wave of infections hit. Thousands of new cases and dozens of deaths have been recorded each day. As of June 27, COVID-19 has infected 244,447 people in Thailand and killed 1,912 of them.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/sandbox-or-quicksand-thailand-on-edge-as-phuket-prepares-to-welcome-back-foreign-tourists/

 

You can post all you want about exponential spread of the virus, and how serious the current situation is, but the facts show otherwise: a virus borne illness with a 0.0078217364 or < 1% mortality rate (since April for Thailand). Concern yes...panic no.

 

Why is it that people like you only ever talk about mortality rates and not the other covid after effects nor the bad sickbed that some people have. Do only deaths count not months of revalidation and other bad stuff ? Why is it that you seem to ignore long covid and look at it so black and white.. " dead is the only bad outcome ignoring the other bad effects" 

 

Is it because it suits your agenda better to act like its all ok ? or do you really not know that the other effects are bad too and have a far higher occurrence rate. I mean a few weeks on an ICU and then recovering and then a few months revalidation is not a problem ? I mean you don't count those at all or even mention them.

 

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid

[James105]

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You really are talking absolute nonsense, I seriously think you should consider whether Thailand is the right place for you, perhaps a little trip over to Brazil, Mexico or India would make you feel happier.

 

This is such a typical response when US states that didn't lockdown or lockdown failures like Peru is mentioned, or any other evidence is produced that goes against the belief that "lockdowns work".    It's not quite as bad as accusing someone of being anti-vax or a covid denier if you don't have an argument, but it's not that far off.    

[anchadian]

Airports of Thailand is working on digitizing six airports, starting with Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport, in a bid to get ready for a potential influx of tourists once the world reopens next year. #digitize #airport #ThailandNews #TheNationThailand

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/business/40002553

[Caldera]

Looks like the prisons have reached herd immunity (the hard way), almost no cases reported within the last few days.

 

As for the overall number in Thailand... that escalated quickly! I'd like to see an update on variants, say for the last week only.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, James105 said:

 

This is such a typical response when US states that didn't lockdown or lockdown failures like Peru is mentioned, or any other evidence is produced that goes against the belief that "lockdowns work".    It's not quite as bad as accusing someone of being anti-vax or a covid denier if you don't have an argument, but it's not that far off.    

"Whether you choose to believe that the lockdowns were the "cause" of this decline (despite peaking during lockdown) or whether other factors (seasonality) were relevant is entirely up to you.   To have such a belief in lockdowns despite contrary evidence is quite baffling to me, but considering the human capacity to believe in religion it's not overly surprising."

 

Changing the goal posts again

 

Still can't back up your claims that lockdowns don't work, oh wait the decreases are due to seasonal changes. Evidence to that effect? 

 

The science of social distancing, the primary reason for a lockdown is not science it is faith/religion, really, evidence of that?

 

Carry on with your nonsense it really does display your own ignorance and complete dismissal of science, a subject you obviously did poorly in at school.

 

 

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

Of the 5,406 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 3,757 via tests at medical facilities

- 1,622 via pro-active tests at known clusters

- 9 via pro-active tests in prisons

- 18 imported cases

#โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #โควิด19วันนี้ #Thailand #Covid19

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1409385014660276225

 

Zero tests in the community. Says a lot about the varacity of the numbers and the spread of the virus throughout Thailand.

[GroveHillWanderer]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Healthy people don't test positive for Covid, they are still carriers and can infect others. Ergo why Thailand does it their way.

 

I think you're getting the fact that you can appear healthy while asymptomatic and still spread the disease, confused with the idea that an asymptomatic spreader doesn't have CoViD-19.

 

Appearing healthy because you have no visible symptoms, doesn't mean you won't test positive for CoViD-19. Unless it's at such a low level that it's undetectable (which probably means you won't be shedding enough virus to spread it anyway) you will still test positive for the disease even though you're asymptomatic.

 

In fact that's pretty much the definition of asymptomatic - it means having a disease while not showing any outward signs of it.

Edited June 28, 2021 by GroveHillWanderer

[club]

3 hours ago, club said:

I can prove it, Look what happened to California and New York. They locked down for 4 months and had the highest numbers of cases of any state in the USA

New York city with a population of almost 19 million had a 4 month lockdown and their case number was 2.1 million. 53,000 dead    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+covid+cases+in+new+york+city&rlz=1C1GCEA_enTH934TH934&sxsrf=ALeKk02v-qCOtRdT2nZeg8rbLnG07b_HsA%3A1624861316800&ei=hGrZYImU      Thailand is lucky compared to this and this is with 19 million Compared to 60 million here

[FarFlungFalang]

52 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Why don't you include the Melbourne lockdown in your spiel.

Melbourne is obviously what's known to be an artifact.Maybe because of all the arty farty types there.

[Anna Rak]

Can I just say, If there are no beds left in the hospitals for Covid or any other patients why OH! why do you need $100,000 Covid insurance to get a COE. 

 

Just a thought???

[wensiensheng]

42 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The COVID-19 situation has turned increasingly serious since April, when the third wave of infections hit. Thousands of new cases and dozens of deaths have been recorded each day. As of June 27, COVID-19 has infected 244,447 people in Thailand and killed 1,912 of them.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/sandbox-or-quicksand-thailand-on-edge-as-phuket-prepares-to-welcome-back-foreign-tourists/

 

You can post all you want about exponential spread of the virus, and how serious the current situation is, but the facts show otherwise: a virus borne illness with a 0.0078217364 or < 1% mortality rate (since April for Thailand). Concern yes...panic no.

 

Have you lost track of who posted what?

 

your initial post mentioned “exponential”. I said nothing about that, I took issue with you saying that cases have been in a 3k to 5k range for several months. In case you can’t keep track, here is what I said.

 

 

“Can you provide some numbers to back that up. I don’t recall numbers as high as 5k before, other than on two days when prison cases were dumped. And also don’t recall cases of 4K other than the last week. Prior to that I don’t recall cases of 3k for anything other than a couple of weeks.

 

are you seriously saying that cases haven’t been steadily rising, despite the shortfall in testing? And check out the 7 day rolling average chart. See anything there that says cases arent rapidly rising?”

 

do you see any mention of exponential in my post? No, there isn’t. Rising rapidly, which I do say, is not exponential. And cases have been rising rapidly, that is clear from the 7 day rolling average chart.

 

now you start talking about mortality rates. That isn’t in any of my posts, nor your previous posts for that matter.

 

you are making yourself look rather silly. Just acknowledge that your initial assertion that cases have been in a range of 3k to 5k for several months, is not borne out by the charts that are readily available to everyone, and we are good.

 

If you want to waffle on about exponential rises and mortality rates, talk to someone else. They aren’t what I am talking about with you.

 

and please don’t post random links to the Phuket sandbox that have little to do with the topic to hand. That was childish.