Are Lockdowns worth the cost ?

[Kevin Taylor]

I would suggest not, I don't think they even work, maybe if a country is rich enough where people can stay home and not go out and have the financial ability to do so. To what end though, unless you put a fence around your country and never allow outsiders in then you are eventually going to get an outbreak and you are back to square one.

So what's the benefit of 1 and a half years of lockdowns and restrictions, I guess we might of delayed some deaths but that's about it.

The financial cost is we've probably doomed a large percentage of the Thai population to debt and poverty, I think there will be more deaths due to that.

Your starting to hear the term herd immunity more, for some reason that's kind of become a political term. I believe it's the only way to beat covid, to get there basically everyone gets exposed to it, if a large enough percentage of the population have strong enough immune systems then the virus cannot survive. That's it vaccines help, perhaps some of the other drugs like Ivermectin may help, but ultimately that's what it takes. That being said that doesn't mean you have to through old people or at risk people under the bus they should probably isolate as best they can.

This could have been done at the start of this mess by the way.

Ok that's my opinion fire away at me.

[EdrigoSalvadore]

I don´t think people are allowed to talk about this subject. You need to have faith in Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, your governments and the Thai government, and don´t use your brain.

 

Now go watch more netflix.

Edited July 20, 2021 by EdrigoSalvadore

[johng]

16 minutes ago, Kevin Taylor said:

Ok that's my opinion fire away at me.

Totally agree with you.

[Heng]

If done properly, then yes.   

[GrandPapillon]

2 minutes ago, Heng said:

If done properly, then yes.   

how do you define done properly? maybe in a village with 10 people it might work, but in a city with millions, no way, unless you start shooting people who gets out

[LongTimeLurker]

56 minutes ago, Kevin Taylor said:

Ok that's my opinion fire away at me.

Totally agree with you.

[Heng]

18 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

how do you define done properly? maybe in a village with 10 people it might work, but in a city with millions, no way, unless you start shooting people who gets out

A proper lockdown is no one in or out.  Arresting or shooting people is a staple of law enforcement all over the planet.   Might not be fun and temporarily difficult for those locked down, but it's for the greater good.   

[brewsterbudgen]

3 minutes ago, Heng said:

A proper lockdown is no one in or out.  Arresting or shooting people is a staple of law enforcement all over the planet.   Might not be fun and temporarily difficult for those locked down, but it's for the greater good.   

Wouldn't work in Thailand.

[GrandPapillon]

2 minutes ago, Heng said:

A proper lockdown is no one in or out.  Arresting or shooting people is a staple of law enforcement all over the planet.   Might not be fun and temporarily difficult for those locked down, but it's for the greater good.   

it's unacceptable, that's the problem. Shooting people if they don't respect the lockdowns, that's a path that is never for the greater good. That's an illusion and textbook case for total abuses.

 

Hence why they don't work and can't work, and frankly you don't want them to work if it means killing people to implement them

[GrandPapillon]

and if you need to daily kill hundreds to "keep" the lockdowns in place, do you add them in the stats for "death by Covid"?

[Heng]

4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Wouldn't work in Thailand.

Agree on a country wide level.   Still, the people who are mostly likely to get through all of this are those who aren't going out much, who have initiated personal lockdowns.      

[Heng]

6 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

it's unacceptable, that's the problem. Shooting people if they don't respect the lockdowns, that's a path that is never for the greater good. That's an illusion and textbook case for total abuses.

 

Hence why they don't work and can't work, and frankly you don't want them to work if it means killing people to implement them

It doesn't have to be acceptable to you or anyone as long as the problem gets solved.  If folks know what the punishment is AND the implementation isn't abused, it's still for the greater good.  The 'punishable by death' thing is a bit overdramatic anyway.  There are plenty of possible 'steps up' in law enforcement that could be applied.   I'm not saying I would personally want these inhumane things to happen, I'm saying that say 'shooting people at the border' would lower the number of illegal border crossings (whether it's at the Myanmar-Thai border, US-Mexican border, or east and West Berlin) and slow down the spread of disease, narco trafficking, human trafficking, or whatever we were debating academically.   

 

I like rules, I love living in places where the fines for littering are high and it's illegal to throw things away in the wrong color bag, at the wrong time, etc.  

 

[Crossy]

Sorry, but this thread is already heading down a rocky road.

 

 

Unless someone can PM myself or another online Mod with a really, really good reason to re-open.