LA8RAT Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I thought some of you might like to look at some of the astronomical fines some of our benevolent and trusted pharmaceutical companies have been hit with in recent times. GSk. Almost 10 billion Dollars Pfizer almost 3 billion. Dollars Johnson and Johnson 2.7 billion Dollars https://www.pharmaceuticalprocessingworld.com/gsk-pfizer-and-jj-among-the-most-fined-drug-companies-according-to-study/ As always do your own due diligence.. Don't take the word of a total stranger on the Internet. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cdemundo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 25 minutes ago, LA8RAT said: I thought some of you might like to look at some of the astronomical fines some of our benevolent and trusted pharmaceutical companies have been hit with in recent times. GSk. Almost 10 billion Dollars Pfizer almost 3 billion. Dollars Johnson and Johnson 2.7 billion Dollars https://www.pharmaceuticalprocessingworld.com/gsk-pfizer-and-jj-among-the-most-fined-drug-companies-according-to-study/ As always do your own due diligence.. Don't take the word of a total stranger on the Internet. Good point. I'd rather die than use their products. Oh, wait... let me think about that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA8RAT Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, cdemundo said: Good point. I'd rather die than use their products. Oh, wait... let me think about that. It's all about making an informed choice my friend.. If you are old fat and pretty much knackered . Then the jabs might make sense in your particular case.. Talk to your trusted medical advisor.. Don't trust anything you read on here, pro or anti vacation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted October 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, LA8RAT said: I thought some of you might like to look at some of the astronomical fines some of our benevolent and trusted pharmaceutical companies have been hit with in recent times. GSk. Almost 10 billion Dollars Pfizer almost 3 billion. Dollars Johnson and Johnson 2.7 billion Dollars https://www.pharmaceuticalprocessingworld.com/gsk-pfizer-and-jj-among-the-most-fined-drug-companies-according-to-study/ As always do your own due diligence.. Don't take the word of a total stranger on the Internet. Or you could follow the advice. Of the national health agencies, who all recommend vaccination. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted October 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, LA8RAT said: I thought some of you might like to look at some of the astronomical fines some of our benevolent and trusted pharmaceutical companies have been hit with in recent times. GSk. Almost 10 billion Dollars Pfizer almost 3 billion. Dollars Johnson and Johnson 2.7 billion Dollars https://www.pharmaceuticalprocessingworld.com/gsk-pfizer-and-jj-among-the-most-fined-drug-companies-according-to-study/ As always do your own due diligence.. Don't take the word of a total stranger on the Internet. Did you look those numbers up yourself, or did one of your internet friends send you that? Got a link? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 hours ago, LA8RAT said: It's all about making an informed choice my friend.. If you are old fat and pretty much knackered . Then the jabs might make sense in your particular case.. Talk to your trusted medical advisor.. Don't trust anything you read on here, pro or anti vacation. You are implying that COVID is no match for your mighty immune system. How confident are you? Are you willing to say that if you get COVID you won't seek medical care? In order to let your immune system prove itself? I'm not talking about you being forced in any way, just saying "Yeah, I am that confident". Or if you get COVID will you go running like a little puss to the hospital? Can you say that if you get COVID you will not seek medical treatment? Or maybe you are just a braggart who doesn't even believe his own BS. To be clear, yes or no question: Are you willing to say that if you get COVID you won't seek medical care? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 hours ago, thefactoryoutlet said: no country will ever vaccinate the whole population, you like it or not, it will never happen and it's so great actually that billions people around the world resist this whole BS ! You might at least acknowledge that what you claimed is wrong "60% or 70% people vaccinated (maximum that they can reach everywhere it seems?)" And I never claimed that 100% vaccination rate would be achieved. Stop setting up straw men. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 hours ago, thefactoryoutlet said: no country will ever vaccinate the whole population, you like it or not, it will never happen and it's so great actually that billions people around the world resist this whole BS ! Billions? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 6 hours ago, LA8RAT said: I thought some of you might like to look at some of the astronomical fines some of our benevolent and trusted pharmaceutical companies have been hit with in recent times. GSk. Almost 10 billion Dollars Pfizer almost 3 billion. Dollars Johnson and Johnson 2.7 billion Dollars https://www.pharmaceuticalprocessingworld.com/gsk-pfizer-and-jj-among-the-most-fined-drug-companies-according-to-study/ As always do your own due diligence.. Don't take the word of a total stranger on the Internet. You need to hide that from your anti-vaccine chums. It’s an article of faith within the anti-vax alternative universe that Big Pharma are in in a conspiracy with Government against ‘the people’. Big Pharma getting big fines is evidence of what the rational amongst us already know. Another anti vaccine Hogwash conspiracy. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 hours ago, LA8RAT said: It's all about making an informed choice my friend.. If you are old fat and pretty much knackered . Then the jabs might make sense in your particular case.. Talk to your trusted medical advisor.. Don't trust anything you read on here, pro or anti vacation. OK, let’s go there: Please provide information from a trusted medical advisor who is stating the vaccines don’t make sense and the particular circumstances in which they don’t. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 hours ago, redwood1 said: The BS list is so long I could fill up the next 5 pages.... Please don't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 8 hours ago, thefactoryoutlet said: no country will ever vaccinate the whole population, you like it or not, it will never happen and it's so great actually that billions people around the world resist this whole BS ! Billions are desperately waiting for the vaccine. And countries that didn't make it political now have over 90% vaccinated. Billions will never be against trying to defeat this enemy. Sad some try to help it out. ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 hours ago, LA8RAT said: I thought some of you might like to look at some of the astronomical fines some of our benevolent and trusted pharmaceutical companies have been hit with in recent times. GSk. Almost 10 billion Dollars Pfizer almost 3 billion. Dollars Johnson and Johnson 2.7 billion Dollars https://www.pharmaceuticalprocessingworld.com/gsk-pfizer-and-jj-among-the-most-fined-drug-companies-according-to-study/ As always do your own due diligence.. Don't take the word of a total stranger on the Internet. A vast majority of these fines had NOTHING to do with the quality. From that link. Pricing violations were the most common reason for fines. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiSanookGuy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 12 hours ago, thefactoryoutlet said: no country will ever vaccinate the whole population, you like it or not, it will never happen and it's so great actually that billions people around the world resist this whole BS ! yes and anyway the virus will disappear just as the Spanish flue 100 years ago ! I guess that most people here do not even know that it stopped without vaccine... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiSanookGuy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 12 hours ago, redwood1 said: The BS list is so long I could fill up the next 5 pages.... please ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, ThaiSanookGuy said: yes and anyway the virus will disappear just as the Spanish flue 100 years ago ! I guess that most people here do not even know that it stopped without vaccine... I think most understand the vaccines dramatically reducing the chances of being made seriously ill, hospitalized or killed by the virus while it’s still around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, ThaiSanookGuy said: yes and anyway the virus will disappear just as the Spanish flue 100 years ago ! I guess that most people here do not even know that it stopped without vaccine... That is not likely to happen . This type of virus is has not been seen in humanns before, it crossed over from bats to humans so the human immune system doesn't really respond well in defending the body from it. Plus with mutations/differant variants even the vaccines have trouble protecting against it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony125 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, ThaiSanookGuy said: please ! An anti-vax doctor who's one of the biggest spreaders of COVID-19 disinformation says he doesn't lose sleep if his remarks cause death https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-vax-doctor-whos-one-071002288.html Japanese scientists develop radical new vaccine that could prevent future coronavirus pandemics https://www.yahoo.com/news/japanese-scientists-develop-radical-vaccine-164020581.html 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, ThaiSanookGuy said: yes and anyway the virus will disappear just as the Spanish flue 100 years ago ! I guess that most people here do not even know that it stopped without vaccine... I guess that some don't understand how many died from the Spanish flu. Nor that variations of it are still with us, killing more every year. https://www.history.com/news/1918-flu-pandemic-never-ended 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, Tony125 said: An anti-vax doctor who's one of the biggest spreaders of COVID-19 disinformation says he doesn't lose sleep if his remarks cause death https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-vax-doctor-whos-one-071002288.html Japanese scientists develop radical new vaccine that could prevent future coronavirus pandemics https://www.yahoo.com/news/japanese-scientists-develop-radical-vaccine-164020581.html Don't say radical new vaccine! The anti vaxxers will be all over it. I guess they'd prefer we go back to the horse and buggy as transportation. LOL 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, ThaiSanookGuy said: yes and anyway the virus will disappear just as the Spanish flue 100 years ago ! I guess that most people here do not even know that it stopped without vaccine... The Spanish Flu took some 50 million people before it went. Doctors are trying to make this epidemic go away without millions more dying. You can help by getting yourself vaccinated. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redwood1 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I think most understand the vaccines dramatically reducing the chances of being made seriously ill, hospitalized or killed by the virus while it’s still around. If this matter had been so settled then I think this thread would have ended on page #1...... So please do explain why its still being discussed 50 pages later... Edited October 20, 2021 by redwood1 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, redwood1 said: If this matter had been so settled then I think this thread would have ended on page #1...... So please do explain why its still being discussed 50 pages latter... Due to anti vaxxers and covid deniers. Unless due to medical reasons, absolutely NO reason not to be vaccinated. None. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thvima Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tony125 said: An anti-vax doctor who's one of the biggest spreaders of COVID-19 disinformation says he doesn't lose sleep if his remarks cause death I second him ! their problem, not mine, and I hope it doesn't make you feel too bitter to know that just as I didn't vaccinate in EU I will not vaccinate here, even if I had to pay a lot for my freedom (without any doubt, there is nothing that cannot be bought, and especially here !) Edited October 20, 2021 by thvima 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, thvima said: haha, and so ? 50 millions people on 7 billions wouldn't be a big loss for me, including my family if possible ! What you have told us is that human life is not that important to you. And that you would rather you and your family would die rather than vaccinate. okay, so now we know not to listen to you. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, thvima said: you know what ? I have a VERY VERY GOOD REASON ! it's called MY CHOICE !! but it seems hard to understand for propagangists like you... So, you are okay with infecting other people ….. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cdemundo Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, redwood1 said: If this matter had been so settled then I think this thread would have ended on page #1...... So please do explain why its still being discussed 50 pages later... You are right. It is inexplicable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thvima Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: So, you are okay with infecting other people ….. yes no problem, especially those who want to push vaccination, they deserve the worst for them and their family ! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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