Thai police detain man over death of Swiss tourist

[bbabythai]

18 hours ago, Tarteso said:

Good news!!!
 

Why don’t let's see his  <deleted> face?????

bc it might not be him.... duh

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, bristolgeoff said:

I suppose they have they ways right or wrong.Just like the english backpackers and the 2 burma boys now inside.It  does seem they found their man fast

Just because there was one corrupt case and one miscarriage of justice , that doesnt mean every single one is .

   Just because the B2 got framed, that doesnt mean this suspect is getting framed 

[Bruno123]

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59 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't commit this crime.

 

What we do know is there is a lot of pressure from government to solve this quickly with their failed sandbox scheme and bad publicity is seen as destroying the image of a main source of tourist income and bringing into question safety on Thai islands. My Thai family have never been keen on visiting Thai islands. I know they are gossip mongers without facts, but many times they have said they islands are just mafia controlled, and have no wish to go.

 

That is concerning.

 

Furthermore, the speed at which they are announcing this with just some footage showing he was on his motorbike in the area and no DNA back yet from Bangkok. They would carry more respect and less skepticism, if they say they are awaiting DNA and tests results, not blurting out ' Case closed '

 

I don't like Thai police confessions and I know for a fact that many of the horror stories are true. Plastic bags over heads to suffocate, attacking parts of the body other than the face, etc

 

Also I am dubious about the Police General who announces ' There is not a scapegoat in this case ' as if he knew he was going to be accused of it.

 

Do we all recall this being said about the Burmese two those years ago and it was anything but a clearcut case??, but once a Police General had announced it after a cursory walk around the beach days later at the crime scene, without any concrete evidence whatsoever, Prayut and all the others, closed their ears to any other options.

 

They then set about MAKING the evidence fit the crime.

Was it a Police General or was it Big Joke? He wasn't and isn't a General. He is just Prawit's mole man on the police force.

Edited August 8, 2021 by Bruno123

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, steven100 said:

i am surprised ,   a native of Phuket and not Myanmar ....

You're not alone in that thought.

[ChrisKC]

"A native of Phuket"

 

Whatever you say, don't say, 'Thai' person!

Edited August 8, 2021 by ChrisKC
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[GroveHillWanderer]

3 hours ago, frankie machine said:

so, are you saying she deserved to be raped and murdered because she does not fit your mold of "innocence"?

No, he's saying the victim is the one who is innocent, not the perpetrator.

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

18 hours ago, edwinchester said:

'they always get a man'....there, fixed it.

"they allways get the same man"...i think they have the same man for this cases,

he pose for the camera as the captured criminal and than they

release him until the next case. 2-3 yrs later.

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

"they allways get the same man"...i think they have the same man for this cases,

he pose for the camera as the captured criminal and than they

release him until the next case. 2-3 yrs later.

Any evidence of this or just an over active imagination on your part ?

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Any evidence of this or just an over active imagination on your part ?

well, sir, i was just kiddin

[Dont confuse me]

"It's over It's finish" I'm intrigued in how they caught this guy so quickly, (if he is responsible I'll give credit) was it through forensics?  An informant? Or did he feel remorse and could live with himself and decided to confess?

It seems to me that more often than not most convictions rely on confessions. I hope they have the right person and that for his sake some evidence of his guilt is made available. 

[tandor]

19 hours ago, Tarteso said:

Good news!!!
 

Why don’t let's see his  <deleted> face?????

...you're not showing yours!

 

[DekDaeng]

14 hours ago, pegman said:

Take a wild guess

Video of the confession would give us a fair idea / duress or not.

 

[DekDaeng]

4 minutes ago, tandor said:

...you're not showing yours!

 

'Good news'

Edited August 8, 2021 by DekDaeng

[ChrisKC]

5 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

This is the best summary of the case in English I've seen so far...

 

Royal Thai Police Commissioner, Pol Gen Suwat Jangyodsuk told reporters at a news media conference that the suspect in the murder of a Swiss female tourist in Phuket is a Thai man who has been charged with robbery and murder.

Following the murder of the 57-year-old Swiss tourist at Tone Ao Yon waterfall in Vichit sub-district of Muang district and her body was found on August 5, the victim was later confirmed to have arrived in Phuket during Phuket Sandbox scheme on July 13. The police arrested the suspect on August 7 and secured his confession.

 

Police Major General Nanthadet Yoinuan , Deputy Chief of Provincial Police Region 8 revealed that the murder suspect is a 27-year-old Thai man who does not have a proper job. According to his confession, he attempted to rob her but she resisted. During a struggle, he killed her and fled the scene. The murderer also confessed that part of the 300 baht he stole from her was spent on cigarettes and marijuana.

 

Initially, the suspect in the case has been charged with murder and robbery. The police are now collecting evidence,  and an autopsy report is being compiled before any further legal proceedings to have the murderer appear in court as soon as possible.

 

Source: National News Bureau of Thailand

So what happened to the "belief", there was a rape involved - what was the evidence for this belief when discovering the body?

[Nanaplaza666]

It is finished !! What?? The sandbox sceme ?? Think that peace of shait wanted his part of the 810mij baht those 14000 tourists where spending . Good thing to hear they caught someone , now let's hope he's the one who did it and let him rot in .... 

[Thunglom]

19 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

we have good news. It's finished,"

What a terrible thing for a police officer to say.

As ever the process of law will go by the way in the police's efforts to make the problem go away.

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

So what happened to the "belief", there was a rape involved - what was the evidence for this belief when discovering the body?

It seems to be just an assumption , now he has stated that she died before he managed to rape her and so he then didnt rape her 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Thunglom said:

What a terrible thing for a police officer to say.

As ever the process of law will go by the way in the police's efforts to make the problem go away.

He meant that the man hunt  is finished  because they have caught the suspect . 

[ChrisKC]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

He meant that the man hunt  is finished  because they have caught the suspect . 

Catching a "suspect" is not the same as having definitive proof they have the right man? In that sense, it is NOT "finished"

[aussienam]

19 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Innocent until proven guilty?

Exactly.  The online lynch mob already have their rope and noose in hand,  yelling "hang the <deleted>", "show his face", without the suspect/accused being afforded the right for legal due process, with the scrutiny of evidence, whether that is inculpatory or exculpatory. 

 

And of course the cynical crowd already suspecting someone has been 'stitched up' to take the fall for an unsolved murder.  

 

Without a 'crystal ball' and not being privy to case details, other than the often redacted version provided to reporters, none of us can really be qualified to claim the truth.  

 

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by aussienam

[Tarteso]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

So why exactly did you post her picture here?

Because it is the real face of a poor victim, and this time a defenseless western woman who has been brutally raped, abused and murdered and also ... because I am free to answer what I see fit.

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

Catching a "suspect" is not the same as having definitive proof they have the right man? In that sense, it is NOT "finished"

Catching a suspect is indeed the end of the man hunt . 

They believe they have the murderer , due to evidence and a confession , so the "whodunnit" question has been answered and finished 

[ThaiFelix]

23 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

He meant that the man hunt  is finished  because they have caught the suspect . 

I actually read it differently.  I imagine the police are under a hell of a lot of pressure to clear this case because the bean counters are fearful of its effects on the Phuket sandbox.  If I was in that position my thoughts would be that prospective tourists need not have any fears coming to Phuket because the culprit has been caught.

 

"its finished" I think, was said in very bad taste because I believe it will be a damn long time for it to be finished for the family and friends of the poor victim.

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

55 minutes ago, Dont confuse me said:

"It's over It's finish" I'm intrigued in how they caught this guy so quickly, (if he is responsible I'll give credit) was it through forensics?  An informant? Or did he feel remorse and could live with himself and decided to confess?

It seems to me that more often than not most convictions rely on confessions. I hope they have the right person and that for his sake some evidence of his guilt is made available. 

According to reports on thai media, they checked all cameras of all cars and bikes close

to the crime place and time, and interogated each one of them.

the suspect in custody acted suspiciously and had bruises on his body.

after a quick and efficient interrogation, he confessed to the crime.

 

i am only so happy that i did not ride any bike on that road and that time.

[metisdead]

A post with content copy and pasted from the National News Bureau of Thailand has been removed as per the following:

 

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Some off topic posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

19 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

I actually read it differently.  I imagine the police are under a hell of a lot of pressure to clear this case because the bean counters are fearful of its effects on the Phuket sandbox.  If I was in that position my thoughts would be that prospective tourists need not have any fears coming to Phuket because the culprit has been caught.

 

"its finished" I think, was said in very bad taste because I believe it will be a damn long time for it to be finished for the family and friends of the poor victim.

I do think that he meant it from his perspective . 

And he was talking to the journalists .

  "Its finished" we can all go home now , sort of thing  

[Cake Monster]

5 hours ago, frankie machine said:

so, are you saying she deserved to be raped and murdered because she does not fit your mold of "innocence"?

In the name of God

Can we not show at least a little respect for this poor Woman and her Family

[malibukid]

nothing to see here, move on

[A1Str8]

And no photo taken with a bunch of people pointing fingers at him?

 

What lousy work.

[LikeItHot]

19 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

It amazes me how quick these cops can grab someone

Not really a tough case not to disparage successful efforts of law enforcement.  If you knew the crime location you would know its rarely visited and if by a local he likely didn't live or work far from there.  There's also no way to get on Laem Panwa except by boat and not be captured on camera. Theres only a few houses on the soi that go to the waterfall.  Suspect was likely seen coming or going.  Then put some money on the street in that area looking for a guy with scratches on his face who was acting weird the day of the crime.  He may have grabbed a bottle of lao khao and some smokes at the nearest mom and pop.  Run the victims credit cards and cellphone for activity after the time of death too.  Probably plenty of DNA at the scene and suspects home due to the nature of the crime for conviction purposes. Confessions not difficult to get on a high guilt crime either.  As far as who ever posted the "guilty until proven innocent" comment, in a rape murder case if you have enough to charge someone a prosecutor is literally asserting his or her guilt, regardless or what a court says (many guilty people are found not guilty but they are never "found innocent") and the release of a photo could turn up additional evidence or victims.  The debate may be moot as the article says he was detained not charged, This could very well be an old mug shot. Generally speaking what you said is true but in a high crime release of a photo is for the greater good.