Doctor Tom Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 8/17/2021 at 1:56 PM, Orinoco said: Maybe a few of us have a bit more money than you then , !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL I very much doubt that, or you would live, as I do, in a very nice house, with a large garden and big pool, with nature all around you, not surrounded by concrete, cars, noise and more importantly other people you probably don't know and if you did, wouldn't like and dont want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, seedy said: As posted above, the cheapest is 36,900 THB You can get a good second hand bike for 15,000 THB. 22,000 THB will buy a LOT of fuel, and no dicking around with charging. Any maintenance on an ICE bike will be dirt cheap here. My PCX, 2013, has needed one bearing and a valve cover gasket since new. If a Honda shop did it - maybe 3,000 THB Gasket was 56 THB - 555 If you're going to compare, used vs new is a poor comparison. Lets go new Super Ace & Honda Wave 125i, about same price ฿53,000 @ 50 kpl and drive 30 kms a day. (my daily routine) ICE @ ฿30 a liter, that's ฿6500 a year for petrol. EV @ ฿5 per 100 kms = ฿550 a year ฿6000 savings a year X 8.8 yrs = ฿52,800, and the EV is free. 30 X 365 = 10,950 kms X 8.8 yrs = 96,360 kms EV battery good for 1200 cycles 1200 X 80 kms = 96,000 with still plenty of battery left at 80% capacity Edited January 3, 2022 by KhunLA 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 23 hours ago, KhunLA said: If wanting a full size e-scooter, all styles; fino / scoopy, wave or sporty look, then DECO has a full line. I have one, not in photo, bit better specs, higher price, and TBO, unnecessary to buy for most. Entry level at 36,900, inc VAT, and the 1000w model have removable batteries for the condo / apt dwellers. Perfect for knocking around town or daily commute. The Super Ace looks great. It's difficult to judge the size, would it be compared to a Yamaha aerox or Honda pcx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: The Super Ace looks great. It's difficult to judge the size, would it be compared to a Yamaha aerox or Honda pcx? Actually they're all kind of big, meaning the platforms are a little wider than I expect (never owned scooter) since use to H. Sonic & Wave. So your legs are spread a bit further, which for some Thais, would definitely kill a sale. I almost didn't buy mine (SUSU) because of that, and sales rep noticed my apprehension, so wheeled one out to test ride. SOLD ???? and all I did was run around the parking lot with it. That was enough. I'm 175cm, not the longest legs, but comfy at stops. Wife has to extreme tippy toe. SUSU is their 'largest', but sitting on the rest, and not much difference. They all feel like they sit 'tall / wide', and not what I was used to. Use to legs hugging the motor, and straight down when stopped. Being in a seated / chair like position took a few kms to get use to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Doctor Tom said: I very much doubt that, or you would live, as I do, in a very nice house, with a large garden and big pool, with nature all around you, not surrounded by concrete, cars, noise and more importantly other people you probably don't know and if you did, wouldn't like and dont want to know. Right on mate. Story telling is so easy on a forum. Good night your grace, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 15 hours ago, KhunLA said: EV battery good for 1200 cycles So the marketing says. Do you have any real world figures ? All other manufacturers fall short in their predictions. OP - check if there is a dealer close by who is able to provide service and spare parts for the model you purchase. The Deco listed above are seeking dealers on their website so if one is close to you I have no idea. And if you plan on riding it on the public roads be sure it is able to be licensed and insured. The smaller ones are not. There are sure to be circuit boards, voltage controllers, etc which will at some point require replacement. Those who think EV will not need any service - Congratulations ! EV are the first machine since time began which needs zero maintenance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 This looks pretty good, cheap enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: This looks pretty good, cheap enough 21,000 baht for Harley electric why bother get a second hand wave. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: 21,000 baht for Harley electric why bother get a second hand wave. ???? Or ... ฿8060 ... different specs though ... LAZ: http://tiny.cc/5h5nuz Edited January 4, 2022 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I was surprised to see several electric bikes popping up in my village. There are now two such shops in the nearby town. I thought these people were poor. More like poorly budgeting again. These are electric scooters, for kids to have fun, and for old folks to get around. For the old folks it makes sense. But the kids? Come on. Get them on regular bikes and have them exercise. More fascination with useless technology. Then there's the batteries, which aren't cheap to replace when they no longer hold a charge, which I doubt most of these guys would be willing to do. Expect to see a lot of these dead bikes laying around eventually. Heh, one day we were out on the farm, when we saw a kid slowly spinning by on the dirt road. They're not too quick, and less so on dirt, thankfully. Driving in with one hand, cell phone in the other. It's quite some distance out there. If it had enough charge to get there, I doubt there's enough to get back. No power out there. Maybe they've got a solar pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Thailand lacks quality brand electric motorbikes. Niu would be the only brand to recommend. From local distributors maybe Swag EV. Anyway they are all made in china. Some with quality components like Bosch motor etc. Some have cheap no-name components. Like calculations before, they might be more expensive but the savings from regular use for a few year will make it up. Gasoline won't become cheaper here for sure, electricity still affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Or ... ฿8060 ... different specs though ... LAZ: http://tiny.cc/5h5nuz Correct but not harley chopper as in your pix go to order it and you will see how much. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/motorbike-billy-i2229214506-s9709491200.html? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Correct but not harley chopper as in your pix go to order it and you will see how much. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/motorbike-billy-i2229214506-s9709491200.html? Whoa ... yea that's a wee bit more. Trying to figure out the source, as one vendor lists as 'Huangren Harley', but can't get any info for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 This looks COOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj230 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just to update the thread, I was fairly new to bangkok/Thailand, ended up not getting an ev the condo I am living at has a shuttle to the bts and mall which has everything I was surprised, a bunch of condos have ev chargers for cars now, the one I’m living at has a few in their garage. also grab taxi is really cheap in Thailand, just 30-100 baht gets me to the further malls if ever go, so it wasn’t worth it for me to get any vehicle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 7:02 PM, SAFETY FIRST said: This looks COOL you can get those locally for ฿39,990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) Range test update, better than expected ... short version: DECO SUSU model, 3000w / 72v50Ah, < 100 kg, (dog & myself) 10-15 kms daily riding, 25-50 kph, average 30-35 kph Full charge ... can pull 72 kms out of the battery, with 10-15+ kms reserve (1 bar) Long winded version. Yes, I added 1 kms to lower right snap, for those counting, as wife started charging before it went solid 1 bar. Upper left, was night before charging, so I wouldn't forget to take the snap. Actually surprised, happily, with results, as last test, was disappointed, but had a blinking 3 to solid 2 reserve. Not realizing the bottom half of the gauge was not counting down as fast. Just notice total kms, not realizing, 35-40 still remaining. Going downward, from blinking to solid bar, was easy to track, and got the snap within a km or so. Very accurate readings, +/- 1 km. Rated (advertised) at 140-150 kms range, although remember the 'owners manual' stated lower 120ish - something I forgot. Either way, very happy with the scooter. Their prime riding conditions are @ 35 kph, straight way, and surely no stop & go, with load probably in the 65 kg range. If any load at all, as I've seen some stand up scooter rated without load ???? On it everyday unless rainy. Strangely sold the Honda Wave, because we never road it, except to get air for tires & petrol, to keep the battery charged up. They advertise cost to be about ฿5 for full 0-100% charge at home / PEA and that takes < 2 hrs. I usually charge up at mid 3rd bar, and takes 1-1.5 hrs. First, and probably last time, taking to 1 bar. EV vs ICE - about ฿5 vs ฿90 (?) per 80-90 kms ???? Edited June 22, 2022 by KhunLA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 On 8/17/2021 at 1:05 PM, dj230 said: The Niu bikes aren't too expensive, they're brand new too and I figured' saving on gas/maintenance would make up for some of the costs. I most likely would just be travelling locally (in bangkok, down maybe 25km trip max) I was going to just get an electric scooter like a "glion" (the one you stand on) but they're almost the same price as an electric motorbike Yea you can take the battery inside, but must be a pain as you mentioned. Wondering about theft too, are motorbikes stolen often here? Not too often as there are few of them about but you are welcome to view my 28 ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, KhunLA said: Range test update, better than expected ... short version: DECO SUSU model, 3000w / 72v50Ah, < 100 kg, (dog & myself) 10-15 kms daily riding, 25-50 kph, average 30-35 kph Full charge ... can pull 72 kms out of the battery, with 10-15+ kms reserve (1 bar) Long winded version. Yes, I added 1 kms to lower right snap, for those counting, as wife started charging before it went solid 1 bar. Upper left, was night before charging, so I wouldn't forget to take the snap. Actually surprised, happily, with results, as last test, was disappointed, but had a blinking 3 to solid 2 reserve. Not realizing the bottom half of the gauge was not counting down as fast. Just notice total kms, not realizing, 35-40 still remaining. Going downward, from blinking to solid bar, was easy to track, and got the snap within a km or so. Very accurate readings, +/- 1 km. Rated (advertised) at 140-150 kms range, although remember the 'owners manual' stated lower 120ish - something I forgot. Either way, very happy with the scooter. Their prime riding conditions are @ 35 kph, straight way, and surely no stop & go, with load probably in the 65 kg range. If any load at all, as I've seen some stand up scooter rated without load ???? On it everyday unless rainy. Strangely sold the Honda Wave, because we never road it, except to get air for tires & petrol, to keep the battery charged up. They advertise cost to be about ฿5 for full 0-100% charge at home / PEA and that takes < 2 hrs. I usually charge up at mid 3rd bar, and takes 1-1.5 hrs. First, and probably last time, taking to 1 bar. EV vs ICE - about ฿5 vs ฿90 (?) per 80-90 kms ???? The issue I see here is with max 50 kph you're an obstacle in Thai traffic. Accident just waiting to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CLW said: The issue I see here is with max 50 kph you're an obstacle in Thai traffic. Accident just waiting to happen That's me by choice. It's rated 80-90 kph, which is accurate, as I've done 87 kph with it. My driving is < 1 km to the park with the dog, then from there, another 1 kms, up over the RR overpass, my 50 kph, then cruise surfside for a couple kms. Make sure it's still there, and to not be one of them folks that lives 'surfside', but never visits. Besides, might even see something new, different or exciting....or not. Then head back home. Evening cruise is hit the small park, perpendicular to surf, to change up the smells for the dog. Keep it under 50, usually 35 ish, as dog and myself don't use eye protection, and our eyes will dry out. Very calming ... Edited June 22, 2022 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 NO... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj230 Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 12 hours ago, KhunLA said: Range test update, better than expected ... short version: DECO SUSU model, 3000w / 72v50Ah, < 100 kg, (dog & myself) 10-15 kms daily riding, 25-50 kph, average 30-35 kph Full charge ... can pull 72 kms out of the battery, with 10-15+ kms reserve (1 bar) Long winded version. Yes, I added 1 kms to lower right snap, for those counting, as wife started charging before it went solid 1 bar. Upper left, was night before charging, so I wouldn't forget to take the snap. Actually surprised, happily, with results, as last test, was disappointed, but had a blinking 3 to solid 2 reserve. Not realizing the bottom half of the gauge was not counting down as fast. Just notice total kms, not realizing, 35-40 still remaining. Going downward, from blinking to solid bar, was easy to track, and got the snap within a km or so. Very accurate readings, +/- 1 km. Rated (advertised) at 140-150 kms range, although remember the 'owners manual' stated lower 120ish - something I forgot. Either way, very happy with the scooter. Their prime riding conditions are @ 35 kph, straight way, and surely no stop & go, with load probably in the 65 kg range. If any load at all, as I've seen some stand up scooter rated without load ???? On it everyday unless rainy. Strangely sold the Honda Wave, because we never road it, except to get air for tires & petrol, to keep the battery charged up. They advertise cost to be about ฿5 for full 0-100% charge at home / PEA and that takes < 2 hrs. I usually charge up at mid 3rd bar, and takes 1-1.5 hrs. First, and probably last time, taking to 1 bar. EV vs ICE - about ฿5 vs ฿90 (?) per 80-90 kms ???? How much did you pay for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 In the first eight months of 2021, the number of registered motorcycles in Thailand amounted to approximately 21.7 million units. This was a slight increase compared to the number of registered motorcycles in 2020, which amounted to approximately 21.6 million units.Apr 8, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Rhys said: OMG, I just woke up, opened my AN page and this popped up. This is a reportable offence. Please be more considerate next time, no more scary photos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, KhunLA said: cruise surfside Evening cruise is hit the small park, perpendicular to surf Very calming ... PERFECT, ???????????????????? This is exactly what I'd use my EV (motorbike) for once I get one, I'm still, looking for the model I posted earlier with a Green Book. Cruises down to the beach, 7-Eleven, maybe even soi 6 one afternoon. Most rides will be early morning, as the sun is rising, not to much traffic. Life is awesome, I ride past Jomtien and Pattaya beaches most mornings on my bicycle or PCX, it's medicinal, I get a natural high (still going to try the ganja when available ????). Edited June 22, 2022 by SAFETY FIRST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, dj230 said: How much did you pay for this? ฿74k. SUSU model, being DECO's top spec'd model. Needed the basket for dog (only model having), and wanted the extra power 3000w vs 1 o 2000w, though have yet to need it. 72v/50Ah battery, so no need to charge at quicker intervals and a bit more range, since rural, will take longer rides. Other models start @ ฿37k (1000w), up to a very sporting looking one @ ฿66k (2000w). All spec'd about the same in what ever motor size, just styling a bit different. 1000w motor scooters have removable battery, for those apt / condo living. https://decogreenenergy.com/index.php/th/product-deco/electric-motorcycles Edited June 23, 2022 by KhunLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 6/23/2022 at 4:13 AM, SAFETY FIRST said: OMG, I just woke up, opened my AN page and this popped up. This is a reportable offence. Please be more considerate next time, no more scary photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Anyone driving or has heard about the Super Soco TC max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 8/17/2021 at 1:35 PM, Doctor Tom said: God, how I would hate condo living, its restrictions and rules, all intended to fxxk up your life . I own one, but hardly ever use it, even for short breaks, its like being in an open prison that you have to pay for. If you think that any condo rules are unfair just ignore them, what's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, NoshowJones said: If you think that any condo rules are unfair just ignore them, what's the problem? So how do you ignore having to pay each year for a security pass to park your car. How do you get over closed pools during covid, or whenever management feel like it, or not being allowed to own dogs. And how do you get over having people above you, below you and to either side? I have none of those issues in my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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