Go with flow or goal setting

[starky]

10 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Of course not so why your ignorant comment ????

Ahhhh deflection the gambit of the defeated . 

[OneMoreFarang]

I think it's a good idea to think from time to time about your options in life. And learn about yourself what your priorities are.

When I was about 20 I was in a meeting of one of those (legal) multi level marketing companies. And I remember one of the bosses told us something like: Remember this day. It was the day when you had the opportunity to get rich.

 

I remember that day. And he was right. And I worked a lot at that time and I made a lot more money than others. And I liked it. I also learned that if I want to get higher up I have to work even harder. Every day and every weekend and for years. I am sure if I would have done that then I would have made a lot of money.

But that was also the moment where I thought about other options. Like: Do I really want a Ferrari and work night and day for that thing? Or am I happy to drive a small BMW and have a better work/life balance.

I chose the BMW and work which I like and enough time to relax and enjoy life.

 

And I think that is an important part about those goals. What do I really want? And what am I willing to do for that and what I am not willing to do? If you put 100% into your big goal then there is a good chance that you will make it. But is it worth it? You decide!

[OneMoreFarang]

This is one of my favorite stories about those goals in life:

 

Google: Mexican fisherman and investment banker

 

Here is one of the many versions: The Parable of the Mexican Fisherman and the Banker | by Jonathan Verhaeghe | Medium

 

 

[canthai55]

1 hour ago, starky said:

Buying a Harley is a goal. Not doing what your friends were doing is a goal. Choosing not to have the classic 9-5 and 2 1/4 children is maybe not a goal but it's certainly something you aspired to. 

  Having goals doesn't make you a square head or locked into some boring existence. The most adventurous people in the world had goals to go places, do things and see sights that no one had ever experienced before. 

 The David Goggins, Jocko Wilinks and their ilk done more kickin and screaming then you will ever pretend to do 

  

How did you learn so much about what I did in my life ?

[473geo]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

This is one of my favorite stories about those goals in life:

 

Google: Mexican fisherman and investment banker

 

Here is one of the many versions: The Parable of the Mexican Fisherman and the Banker | by Jonathan Verhaeghe | Medium

 

 

Good story, but different requirement if you are not starting out where you wish to end up. 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

11 hours ago, starky said:

I guess once you hit a certain age apparently there is no point in setting any goals if that's true you might as well just curl up and die.

That reminds me of a preamble in a book (sorry I don't remember which one). It was something like: You can't make love to all women in this world. But at least you should try.

[OneMoreFarang]

25 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Good story, but different requirement if you are not starting out where you wish to end up. 

I think I read that story the first time in "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" "Begin with the end in mind."

And I think that is very good advice.

I knew too many people who worked hard their whole life and then at the end they die with lots of money which then often goes to a family which they didn't like much. Something went wrong somewhere on that way.

[starky]

24 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That reminds me of a preamble in a book (sorry I don't remember which one). It was something like: You can't make love to all women in this world. But at least you should try.

Exactly ???? seems people in this thread are confusing goals with some convoluted idea of what "success" should be. 

Edited August 24, 2021 by starky

[Sparktrader]

4 hours ago, canthai55 said:

How did you learn so much about what I did in my life ?

Choosing to be lazy is a goal

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think I read that story the first time in "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" "Begin with the end in mind."

And I think that is very good advice.

I knew too many people who worked hard their whole life and then at the end they die with lots of money which then often goes to a family which they didn't like much. Something went wrong somewhere on that way.

Change the will!

[bermondburi]

For older folks maybe goals are less important, but if you're younger......

......5 year plan goals set 100% 

Seen too many younger guys, by this I mean 30s and 40s, drift through life in Thailand without any apparent aims. Okay for a few years maybe, but not when you wake up at 50 and it's all too late to have the wherewithal to do anything. 

 

It's good to have some get up and go about you and not be afraid of some hard work to make your dreams come true.

[ColeBOzbourne]

17 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Is it?? 

Some children whine and say, "Mom, I'm bored". Other kids get up and go find something to do. Retired grown men that are bored probably grew up in the former category.

[Aussieroaming]

I agree, we all need goals and they don't have to be big, but people need focal points to achieve results. I don't think of 5 year goals though, I think I would rather look at long term goals (my substitute for 5 years) and the goals we set ourselves to get through daily life. 

 

I think that most people do some goal setting but don't refer to it as such because everytime we set out to do something or achieve something we have automatically set a goal in order to achieve an outcome.

 

 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:

I think that most people do some goal setting but don't refer to it as such because everytime we set out to do something or achieve something we have automatically set a goal in order to achieve an outcome.

My first goal of the day is to drink a nice espresso before I start working. The second goal is to do at least some work before lunch. Does that count? ???? 

[1FinickyOne]

On 8/23/2021 at 7:31 PM, Sparktrader said:

So life sucks then you die

much of that depends on your expectations eh?

 

just like in marriage

[1FinickyOne]

goals, choices, have all been fluid to me as my life changes and I change so do my wants and goals... 

[sipi]

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

[talahtnut]

Mans ambition is his curse and downfall.

Plan for your survival of the next 19 years.

[Muhendis]

Man. United had a few goals didn't they.

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

goals, choices, have all been fluid to me as my life changes and I change so do my wants and goals... 

Nobody said your goals have to be the same for your whole life. Like:

Today my goal is that I want to see Ni

Tomorrow Nit is my goal.

 

[Sparktrader]

14 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Nobody said your goals have to be the same for your whole life. Like:

Today my goal is that I want to see Ni

Tomorrow Nit is my goal.

 

Gong friday

Pan and Niki Saturday

[Freddy42OZ]

On 8/23/2021 at 7:23 PM, Sparktrader said:

Which do you do and hows it all going?

 

Do you have a 5 year plan?

Or is goal setting a big crock of <deleted>?

 

I have a 5 year, 10 year and 15 year plan.  They all revolve around crypto investing and starting new businesses.

I have 2 new businesses I am starting this year and one that I plan to start next year.  I also have a couple of projects that I suppose could also be considered as businesses, one involving NFTs; and one which is a large scale charity project which I won't make any money from but the objective is to network with HiSo Thais, the Government and the Military.

[OneMoreFarang]

7 minutes ago, Freddy42OZ said:

I have a 5 year, 10 year and 15 year plan.  They all revolve around crypto investing and starting new businesses.

I have 2 new businesses I am starting this year and one that I plan to start next year.  I also have a couple of projects that I suppose could also be considered as businesses, one involving NFTs; and one which is a large scale charity project which I won't make any money from but the objective is to network with HiSo Thais, the Government and the Military.

This obviously brings up the question: What could possibly go wrong? ???? 

 

After your post I am inspired to think about how I will donate at least half of my money like Bill Gates and others did. So many difficult decisions and so little time. 

[1FinickyOne]

45 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Nobody said your goals have to be the same for your whole life. Like:

Today my goal is that I want to see Ni

Tomorrow Nit is my goal.

 

why don't you see them both today at the same time? you can have some extra time to make new goals.

[Sparktrader]

30 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

This obviously brings up the question: What could possibly go wrong? ???? 

 

After your post I am inspired to think about how I will donate at least half of my money like Bill Gates and others did. So many difficult decisions and so little time. 

Epstein

[OneMoreFarang]

10 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

why don't you see them both today at the same time? you can have some extra time to make new goals.

I think it was Bruce Willis who said is one of his films: I am getting too old for this s$#$. 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Epstein

Or Mr Joe Ferrari. Just last week life was wonderful...

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Or Mr Joe Ferrari. Just last week life was wonderful...

Never heard

[StreetCowboy]

2 hours ago, talahtnut said:

Mans ambition is his curse and downfall.

Plan for your survival of the next 19 years.

Do you mean “save for a pension, just in case you do”?

[OneMoreFarang]

11 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Never heard

Try news about Thailand.