Popular Post bookstore Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 I read a article yesterday that stated that starting the 1st of October there was a plan in place to allow tourist with 2 doses to come to Pataya with out the 2 week quarantine. I am in the US now and returning the middle of October I'm waiting on my COE but having a hard time getting any information 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redwood1 Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) Information changes by the week, or day, or even by the hour.....Heck it changes so often and fast that twitter feeds can't keep up.... The number of flip flops, backtracking and misunderstandings have scaled unbelievable heights... Edited September 11, 2021 by redwood1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) hahahaha how in <deleted> would this be policed given the amount of local traffic coming in and out of Pattaya daily. are they really considering <deleted> over locals for a hand full of possible tourists. Edited September 11, 2021 by Ralf001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndhomepattaya Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Its just a plan like zillions of other plans before that. You need to realise that there is a new plan almost daily and none of the have a chance to becoming reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, 2ndhomepattaya said: Its just a plan like zillions of other plans before that. You need to realise that there is a new plan almost daily and none of the have a chance to becoming reality. It really does not matter which plan they are using Today. The fact is, that whatever Plan it is will become reality. There are no acts of God or anything short of Nuclear War, that will derail the opening of Pattaya or any other Sandbox Scheme. Phuket Sandbox has too be your marker on this, with the constant flip flops, deceit and Lies. The efficiency of the Plan chosen will not matter one jot, its all about Kudos, and the famous Face of Thailand, Oh ! and of course, the Money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 OP, are you a returning expat, or coming for a holiday? If the later, what, exactly, do you think awaits you here when you arrive? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 It's mid September. Almighty CCSA decides no easing even for domestic travel, no changing of zones from deep red, still curfew 9 PM to 4 AM, paranoid alcohol prohibition in public. Guess 9x% of hotel capacity closed. Uncountable number of entertainment businesses closed for good. The rest hardly prepared for an opening to this point of time, staff fled town/found other job. If they open at all it will be a very slow start. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Whatever information your local Thai embassy or consulate gives you is all that you can rely on. And then not always. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chicowoodduck Posted September 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 Last time I checked, most of Pattaya City had been washed back into the bay.....???????? Pretty much dead from the neck up for the most part.....unless you are looking for food handouts? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post decca60 Posted September 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) the final, final plan for Pattaya re-opening is called "Yes but no, maybe, perhaps, if". A clear vision of the future. Edited September 12, 2021 by decca60 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBird Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Being open for tourists to come, does not mean the lockdown restrictions are lifted. Bars, clubs, fitness centers, sports arenas, etc. Could all stay closed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iforbach Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Agree its just a headache open close ..maybe . If ....goverment plans ..shall we ..won't we .etc etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dart12 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Chang Mai better bet to go to as they at least have normal things open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookstore Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 18 hours ago, Leaver said: OP, are you a returning expat, or coming for a holiday? If the later, what, exactly, do you think awaits you here when you arrive? No I have lived here for 4 years I am returning to my family 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 If Thailand opens up to vaccinated people, it will soon become the hub for antivaxxers with fake vaccination certificates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomtienisgood Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 20 hours ago, 2ndhomepattaya said: Its just a plan like zillions of other plans before that. You need to realise that there is a new plan almost daily and none of the have a chance to becoming reality. Have them fix Jomtien beach Rd first..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmj Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Hopefully they do a bit of easing in Pattaya so I can get back as well without all the extra BS. We shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 hours ago, bookstore said: No I have lived here for 4 years I am returning to my family Fair play. If you were thinking of some type of holiday here, I would say don't bother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaihot Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 The only thing I read was Prayuth walking this back saying something on the order of ... I said we would open local restaurants and businesses; I didn't say anything about foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 13 hours ago, tgw said: If Thailand opens up to vaccinated people, it will soon become the hub for antivaxxers with fake vaccination certificates. I don't know how it is checked , but in Europe there is a digital certificate which is a QR code which can be scanned and says the status . I am pretty sure most countries got something similar going on , so while there will always be fakes around , same like fake passports , it won't be a lot imho . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10012001 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I plan on winning the $400 Million USD Powerball lottery tomorrow night. I will let you know how that works out. As for Thailand and Pattaya, well, at some point I think the economic pressures or frustration will drive some changes. Exactly what, is as predictable as Chuck a Luck dice cage result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomtienisgood Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 hours ago, gk10012001 said: I plan on winning the $400 Million USD Powerball lottery tomorrow night. I will let you know how that works out. As for Thailand and Pattaya, well, at some point I think the economic pressures or frustration will drive some changes. Exactly what, is as predictable as Chuck a Luck dice cage result Don't forget to share your personal details with us so we can all profit of your gains.. ???????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 6 hours ago, sezze said: I don't know how it is checked , but in Europe there is a digital certificate which is a QR code which can be scanned and says the status . I am pretty sure most countries got something similar going on , so while there will always be fakes around , same like fake passports , it won't be a lot imho . A QR code is not a digital certificate. QR codes can be made to open a specific URL, the fake ones will show a fake website. Not too easy to spot for untrained security personnel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Someone once said "If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans". Oh how true that is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 4:33 AM, tgw said: A QR code is not a digital certificate. To generate a European Digital Covid Certificate you scan a QR Code found on your vaccine record. It does not open a specific URL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espanol Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) On 9/13/2021 at 10:33 AM, tgw said: A QR code is not a digital certificate. QR codes can be made to open a specific URL, the fake ones will show a fake website. Not too easy to spot for untrained security personnel. Security personnel don't even bother to check QR code. I asked them and they said that they can not have access to every database in the world, since every country has its own and many don't even have QR code. I went through Security controls in Europe, Doha and Thailand and nobody checked QR code. They just have a look and, "if it looks like an official document" (they used those words), they wave you in. Same when checking in, boarding airplane, entering Thailand, crossing passport control,... nobody checked QR code. Edited September 16, 2021 by Espanol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 15 hours ago, treetops said: To generate a European Digital Covid Certificate you scan a QR Code found on your vaccine record. It does not open a specific URL. Yes, a QR code can be scanned to generate a digital certificate, but it's not a digital certificate in itself. A digital certificate is asymmetrically encrypted and needs connection to a certificate authority to be able to be verified using public key infrastructure. 1 hour ago, Espanol said: Security personnel don't even bother to check QR code. I asked them and they said that they can not have access to every database in the world, since every country has its own and many don't even have QR code. I went through Security controls in Europe, Doha and Thailand and nobody checked QR code. They just have a look and, "if it looks like an official document" (they used those words), they wave you in. Same when checking in, boarding airplane, entering Thailand, crossing passport control,... nobody checked QR code. a sad state of things. as I wrote in another post, I expect Thailand to become the hub of antivaxxers using fake vaccine certificates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 8:58 AM, Espanol said: Security personnel don't even bother to check QR code. On 9/16/2021 at 10:05 AM, tgw said: A digital certificate is asymmetrically encrypted and needs connection to a certificate authority to be able to be verified using public key infrastructure. In the EU, the ability to read and verify the data exists, and each country has developed their own app for the likes of restaurants etc to use to check in real time. Some actually generate a certificate while some just show a pass or a fail. I've got the French and Italian ones on my phone (TousAntiCovid Verif and VerificaC19) which are the latter and also the Irish one (Covid Tracker Ireland) which generates a certificate. Countries outside the EU do not have the data to do this so can only inspect what they're shown currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 3:33 AM, chaihot said: The only thing I read was Prayuth walking this back saying something on the order of ... I said we would open local restaurants and businesses; I didn't say anything about foreigners. Yes. It's one thing to open bars and restaurants, it's another thing to open a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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