Rampant Rabbit Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 On 9/19/2021 at 5:48 AM, LarrySR said: They try to convince the public climate change is a hoax and that carrying 25 gallons of gas under your back seat is just fine..nothing to worry about. Youd better not fly then either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: As opposed to the leftist propaganda? Fossil-fuels charge the batteries. Guess you never heard of the renewable energy boom? The largest companies in the world are now operating on 100% renewables. But go ahead, put your grandkids college fund in coal. Now you better hurry up and phone the Board of Directors at Mercedes, Jaguar, VW, Toyota, GM, Ford, Volvo, Honda and tell them they are making a huge mistake switching production to EVs. Edited October 2, 2021 by LarrySR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 11:39 AM, kwonitoy said: https://rechargd.com/how-long-will-tesla-car-battery-last/ Nonsense, 300,000 to 500,000 MILES for the Model 3 The battery pack will outlast the car. Can't wait to move back to Canada and get a Model Y pity Tesla only warrants them from 100-150k miles then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Youd better not fly then either Aircraft will be powering up with electric too. In fact all transportation (except spaceships) will be electric soon. Dinosaur doo is history my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Thanks for that, I'll stick to my diesel if you don't mind ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LarrySR said: Aircraft will be powering up with electric too. In fact all transportation (except spaceships) will be electric soon. Dinosaur doo is history my friend. Planes will not be, battery weight will kill that unlike a plane that gets lighter as it burns fuel battery planes dont theyre saddled with that take off weight, let me know when 400 people get on a plane and cross the atlantic, Im not talking those patehtic 10o mile range 6 seater things Edited October 2, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Planes will not be, battery weight will kill that unlike a plane that gets lighter as it burns fuel battery planes dont theyre saddled with that take off weight, let me know when 400 people get on a plane and cross the atlantic, Im not talking those patehtic 10o mile range 6 seater things Battery weight? I see your a bit behind on your scientific literature. Elon Musk says "all transport, apart from rockets, will be electric in future"...but what the hell does he know anyway.... Guess he hasn't heard of the geniuses posting here on Thai Visa... Better phone Airbus and the Rolls Royce jet engine division & tell them to stop the research. And while you're at it, tell them their test flights are just a figment of their imagination. Edited October 2, 2021 by LarrySR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LarrySR said: I see your a bit behind on your scientific literature. Better phone Airbus and the Rolls Royce jet engine division & tell them to stop the research. Im all ears......research does not make it viable Airbus and Rolls-Royce made the joint decision to bring the E-Fan X demonstrator to an end in April 2020. We continue to explore new pathways for disruptive CO2 reduction and are leveraging the knowledge gained through E-Fan X to do so. Edited October 2, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Im all ears......research does not make it viable Airbus and Rolls-Royce made the joint decision to bring the E-Fan X demonstrator to an end in April 2020. We continue to explore new pathways for disruptive CO2 reduction and are leveraging the knowledge gained through E-Fan X to do so. Definitely you should be investing in coal and oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LarrySR said: Definitely you should be investing in coal and oil. Have you any sensible response to my rebuttal on aircraft long haul The facts on E fan X here https://www.fzt.haw-hamburg.de/pers/Scholz/Aero/AERO_PRE_DLRK2019_LimitsToElectricFlight_19-09-30.pdf Edited October 2, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Have you any sensible response to my rebuttal on aircraft long haul The facts on E fan X here https://www.fzt.haw-hamburg.de/pers/Scholz/Aero/AERO_PRE_DLRK2019_LimitsToElectricFlight_19-09-30.pdf Hmmmm... I wonder who knows more about renewable energy and the future of transportation? Elon Musk, the CEO and chief engineer at SpaceX & Tesla or some guy on Thai Visa that watches Fox? Edited October 2, 2021 by LarrySR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LarrySR said: Hmmmm... Who should I trust? Elon Musk, the CEO and chief engineer at SpaceX & Tesla or some guy on Thai Visa that watches Fox? Look if you dont have any sensible answer dont bother answering, provide some link to the fact you mention electric planes are coming soon for long haul. The first thing to note is that long-haul flights by large aircraft are not going to become fully electric any time soon. Certainly not within the next 50 years – and the jury’s out as to whether that will even happen this century. The reason is energy density. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200617-the-largest-electric-plane-ever-to-fly Edited October 2, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Some off topic bickering and replies removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, LarrySR said: Hmmmm... I wonder who knows more about renewable energy and the future of transportation? Elon Musk, the CEO and chief engineer at SpaceX & Tesla or some guy on Thai Visa that watches Fox? I don't doubt Elon Musk know more about about it than me, but it's a pretty good bet I know more about it than you. That said, asking the CEO of Telsa about electric cars is like asking the CEO of Philip Morris about smoking. If you remove government mandates and subsidies, most of the renewable energy industry goes away. As always, bored, rich leftists driving up energy costs and hammering down the standard of living for the poor and middle class with mandates. Incidentally, per Elon, should we not all be in driverless cars by now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, LarrySR said: Aircraft will be powering up with electric too. In fact all transportation (except spaceships) will be electric soon. 555 - Not in your lifetime. Or your childrens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, LarrySR said: Hmmmm... I wonder who knows more about renewable energy and the future of transportation? Elon Musk, the CEO and chief engineer at SpaceX & Tesla or some guy on Thai Visa that watches Fox? The PT Barnum of our times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, seedy said: 555 - Not in your lifetime. Or your childrens. Errm..... Solar sails have a maximum speed which is 10% the speed of light, which equates to 18,600 miles per second or, 67,100,000 mph. Solar powered spacecrafts are able to travel faster than conventional rocket fueled spacecrafts due to constant light pressure being applied to the sail propelling it forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, CharlieH said: Errm..... Solar sails have a maximum speed which is 10% the speed of light, which equates to 18,600 miles per second or, 67,100,000 mph. Solar powered spacecrafts are able to travel faster than conventional rocket fueled spacecrafts due to constant light pressure being applied to the sail propelling it forward. Big difference between spacecraft and aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 9 hours ago, CharlieH said: Errm..... Solar sails have a maximum speed which is 10% the speed of light, which equates to 18,600 miles per second or, 67,100,000 mph. Solar powered spacecrafts are able to travel faster than conventional rocket fueled spacecrafts due to constant light pressure being applied to the sail propelling it forward. Building a solar sail, especially a very large one, is a feat that still needs development https://www.planetary.org/articles/what-is-solar-sailing So ... still on the drawing board. I can put anything on the drawing board, say it is in development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, CharlieH said: Errm..... Solar sails have a maximum speed which is 10% the speed of light, which equates to 18,600 miles per second or, 67,100,000 mph. Solar powered spacecrafts are able to travel faster than conventional rocket fueled spacecrafts due to constant light pressure being applied to the sail propelling it forward. This fails dramatically as you get farther from the sun The minimum transfer time to Jupiter for ac of 1 mm/s2 with no departure velocity relative to Earth is 2 years when using an indirect transfer (solar swing-by). The arrival speed (V∞) is close to 17 km/s. For Saturn, the minimum trip time is 3.3 years, with an arrival speed of nearly 19 km/s.[2] Edited October 3, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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