The Infectious Nature of Misinformaton

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7 hours ago, codemonkey said:

Misinformation is pretty routine these days. It's everywhere.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/associated-press-strikes-out-in-school-board-domestic-terrorists-fact-check/ar-AAPfLsW

 

I read that dubious article you linked to. The AP got it right. But even if not, the fact is, that networks like Fox news repeatedly and unapologetically offer false information. Everyone occasionally gets something wrong. But without taking into account frequency, posts like yours amount only to cherry-picking 

[Jeffr2]

59 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I read that dubious article you linked to. The AP got it right. But even if not, the fact is, that networks like Fox news repeatedly and unapologetically offer false information. Everyone occasionally gets something wrong. But without taking into account frequency, posts like yours amount only to cherry-picking 

The Washington Examiner is a terrible website. If he put up a direct link, it'd be taken down. So, he disguised it as coming from MSM.

 

You're right. Cherry picking at it's worst.

[cdemundo]

12 hours ago, codemonkey said:

Misinformation is pretty routine these days. It's everywhere.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/associated-press-strikes-out-in-school-board-domestic-terrorists-fact-check/ar-AAPfLsW

 

The letter is available on line.

https://nsba.org/-/media/NSBA/File/nsba-letter-to-president-biden-concerning-threats-to-public-schools-and-school-board-members-92921.pdf

It discusses "threats and acts of violence" and documents a large number of them.

Many of these threats and acts of violence are apparent and obvious in numerous videos that have been made public.

 

The part of the letter that is being exaggerated is this:

"As these acts of malice, violence, and threats against public school officials have increased, the classification of these heinous actions could be the equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes."

 

Threats of violence and acts of violence should be prosecuted and school board members and educators should be protected.

There should be nothing controversial about that.

If violence and threats of violence fit the legal classification of domestic terrorism and hate crimes they should be treated appropriately.

 

Read the letter. 

Again the slightest effort can clear up any confusion and you can see with your own eyes instead of taking the word of some crazy website.

 

 

[i84teen]

18 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

word of some crazy website.

Maybe it's "crazy" only if you don't like what they say, but considering MSN is considered Left-Center biased, it should be fit for service in your world.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msn-com/

[cdemundo]

5 minutes ago, i84teen said:

Maybe it's "crazy" only if you don't like what they say, but considering MSN is considered Left-Center biased, it should be fit for service in your world.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msn-com/

Don't know what the ... heck you are talking about.

I was discussing the letter to Biden and provided a link to it.

It isn't that I didn't like what was being said, it is that clearly what they said wasn't true.

My remark about crazy websites cuts both ways, you don't need to trust the critics or the defenders of the NSBA, you can read the letter and see for yourself.

 

I did not quote or rely upon MSN.

So again, What the heck are you talking about?

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Don't know what the ... heck you are talking about.

I was discussing the letter to Biden and provided a link to it.

It isn't that I didn't like what was being said, it is that clearly what they said wasn't true.

My remark about crazy websites cuts both ways, you don't need to trust the critics or the defenders of the NSBA, you can read the letter and see for yourself.

 

I did not quote or rely upon MSN.

So again, What the heck are you talking about?

It's clear that i84teen comes from the  Pavlovian school of critical thinking. Show him a trigger word or phrase and you'll get the same response regardless of its context.

 

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27 minutes ago, i84teen said:

Maybe it's "crazy" only if you don't like what they say, but considering MSN is considered Left-Center biased, it should be fit for service in your world.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msn-com/

Even though your comment is irrelevant I decided to check it out. Here are Media Bias Fact Check's respective evaluations of MSN and The Washington Examiner

• Overall, we rate MSN News strongly Left-Center biased, with most stories coming from Left-Center sources. We also rate them High for factual reporting because the majority of sources used are credible media outlets.https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msn-com/

• Overall, we rate the Washington Examiner Right Biased based on editorial positions that almost exclusively favor the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks.https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, i84teen said:

Maybe it's "crazy" only if you don't like what they say, but considering MSN is considered Left-Center biased, it should be fit for service in your world.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msn-com/

Welcome back. It's not from MSM. it's just a link to a fake news website.

[Scott]

Keep it civil or suspensions will be given out.  

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, i84teen said:

Maybe it's "crazy" only if you don't like what they say, but considering MSN is considered Left-Center biased, it should be fit for service in your world.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msn-com/

Thanks for the fact check link on MSN, it indicates MSN scores ‘High’ in factual reporting.

 

Way higher on factual reporting than FOX New’s ‘mixed’ rating.

[LarrySR]

The intentional Covid disinformation machine gins up and exploits their viewers for political purposes. 

Agitated, "low info fan boys" that watch that tripe go berserk, even threatening school teachers.

Here is a school board member discussing the confrontations her and her family must endure from the anti mask, anti vaccine demographic. 

 

Edited October 14, 2021 by LarrySR

[thailanddogerator]

I see only one misinformation and it's the one that YOU (OP) keep flooding this forum with !

don't you have enough to think that you have the right to tell people what they can think or not ?

I support antivax not because I am against vaccines, but just to fight dictators as you who want to decide for everybody what is good or not !

 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, thailanddogerator said:

I see only one misinformation and it's the one that YOU (OP) keep flooding this forum with !

don't you have enough to think that you have the right to tell people what they can think or not ?

I support antivax not because I am against vaccines, but just to fight dictators as you who want to decide for everybody what is good or not !

 

Please provide a quote (with link) misinformation I am spreading.

 

Please provide a quote (with link) in which I tell people what they can think or not.

 

In a rather friendly sense, I suggest (it’s not a dictate) that you consider vaccination on its medical merits and not on the basis any political considerations.

 

 

[Jeffr2]

2 hours ago, thailanddogerator said:

I see only one misinformation and it's the one that YOU (OP) keep flooding this forum with !

don't you have enough to think that you have the right to tell people what they can think or not ?

I support antivax not because I am against vaccines, but just to fight dictators as you who want to decide for everybody what is good or not !

 

You are clearly an anti vaxxer who's fallen for the misinformation on the internet. Don't forget. A majority of us are FOR the vaccine. And aren't doing this because of some made up dictator.

[metisdead]

A post with a link to a questionable source and the replies have been removed.

[LarrySR]

Stunningly, a Senior Republican Senator told a Fox News host on air Sunday morning that coronavirus vaccines are “experimental” and that ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug, is not being promoted as a COVID-19 treatment because there’s “not money in it.”

Neither of these statements is true.

[papa al]

On 10/2/2021 at 4:32 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

The irony, misinformation spreading disease like in the furtherance of undermining the fight against a disease that has killed over 4,500,000 people and continues to kill. 

 

When I'm looking for misinformation I seek out 

CNN, MSNBC, &c.

[Jeffr2]

16 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

Stunningly, a Senior Republican Senator told a Fox News host on air Sunday morning that coronavirus vaccines are “experimental” and that ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug, is not being promoted as a COVID-19 treatment because there’s “not money in it.”

Neither of these statements is true.

What's more amazing is that many members of the GOP still support the Big Lie. Boggles my mind how anyone could fall for this.

[Jeffr2]

7 minutes ago, papa al said:

When I'm looking for misinformation I seek out 

CNN, MSNBC, &c.

They are ok, at least you won't find out and out lies there. But very slanted towards the left. I  prefer proper medical sites for info on covid.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

21 minutes ago, papa al said:

When I'm looking for misinformation I seek out 

CNN, MSNBC, &c.

I just was watching Fareed Zakharia on CNN. Interesting thoughtful stories about democracy issues in Poland, and hidden money in the Pandora Papers and the implications, brought on by lax tax laws, in the UK , Afghanistan and even South Dakota.

They do good stuff on covid too though it had been a bit of an anti Trump slant sometimes but often justified in my opinion.  

I tend to just look at my local Australian news. Be interesting to hear about your non biased sources for covid news and news in general.  

[LarrySR]

31 minutes ago, papa al said:

When I'm looking for misinformation I seek out 

CNN, MSNBC, &c.

That’s what Fox viewers are programmed to say. 

[LarrySR]

Could it be, professionally trained journalists tend to be liberal because they have received a college education?

 

Everyone is aware, the higher the education the more liberal one becomes. The dictionary describes them as, enlightened, flexible, lenient, humanistic, permissive, tolerant, free, rational, understanding, advanced, broad-minded, intelligent, magnanimous, reasonable, receptive, unbigoted, unprejudiced, progressive, willing to consider ideas of others. 
 

Conservatives are generally considered undereducated, and described by the dictionary as, intolerant, narrow minded, reactionary, redneck, fuddy-duddy, diehard, stick in the mud, limited, greedy, mean, thrifty, timid, ungenerous, wanting, poor, conformist, religious, disposed to pre existing conditions, reluctant to consider new ideas or change and opposed to innovation.
Sitting ducks for slick manipulators who can steer them in any given direction. 

 

Agreed?

Edited October 18, 2021 by LarrySR

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

Could it be, professionally trained journalists tend to be liberal because they have received a college education?

More likely you need to appear liberal (and slightly effeminate) to get employed in journalism.

The days of being a macho drunken slob ended in the 80s.

I certainly pretended to fit in.

Edited October 18, 2021 by BritManToo

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

More likely you need to appear liberal (and slightly effeminate) to get employed in journalism.

The days of being a macho drunken slob ended in the 80s.

I certainly pretended to fit in.

Where is the school of journalism? Ummmm...in the liberal arts.

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3 hours ago, LarrySR said:

Could it be, professionally trained journalists tend to be liberal because they have received a college education?

 

Everyone is aware, the higher the education the more liberal one becomes. The dictionary describes them as, enlightened, flexible, lenient, humanistic, permissive, tolerant, free, rational, understanding, advanced, broad-minded, intelligent, magnanimous, reasonable, receptive, unbigoted, unprejudiced, progressive, willing to consider ideas of others. 
 

Conservatives are generally considered undereducated, and described by the dictionary as, intolerant, narrow minded, reactionary, redneck, fuddy-duddy, diehard, stick in the mud, limited, greedy, mean, thrifty, timid, ungenerous, wanting, poor, conformist, religious, disposed to pre existing conditions, reluctant to consider new ideas or change and opposed to innovation.
Sitting ducks for slick manipulators who can steer them in any given direction. 

 

Agreed?

More important than the political tendencies of journalists is that of scientists.  They skew a lot more to the left than the average American. After all,  their profession is all about understanding data and drawing conclusions accordingly.

[Danderman123]

On 10/14/2021 at 5:08 PM, thailanddogerator said:

I see only one misinformation and it's the one that YOU (OP) keep flooding this forum with !

don't you have enough to think that you have the right to tell people what they can think or not ?

I support antivax not because I am against vaccines, but just to fight dictators as you who want to decide for everybody what is good or not !

 

Are you fighting the evil dictators who are forcing kids to get polio shots?

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

They are ok, at least you won't find out and out lies there. But very slanted towards the left. I  prefer proper medical sites for info on covid.

Some reporters are groaningly stupid.

 

I don’t take media reports on Covid that seriously.

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

I disagree ????

Fake news? 5555

[Jai Dee]

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[Rimmer]

misleading and just plain wrong posts have been removed also troll posts