sezze Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Blumpie said: Well I hate to say it but like it or not this is 3X more catchy than Delta and it's going around the world, killing or not. We all get that it takes 10 days for things to get worse - it could kill you a month from now. That's why we're all waiting with baited breath. ???? Either way it doesn't really matter, now does it? ITs happening. Didn't it matter if we knew the situation was going to be like this 2y ago ? Wuhan style lockdown for 6 weeks everywhere and it was done and over with , everybody would be back to normal . Problem was we reacted too little too late , which is normal since we didn't see anything like this in 100years . But you are right , it is already everywhere , so it is happening wanting or not . Let's just say , i would not book my flight just yet .... ( and if you can wait a few weeks , i would 100% recommend the same ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 New cases in SA in the hardest hit province have decreased for a second day in a row and positivity rate down to 16.4%. Sign of a reversal in trend? Lets hope so. 36 new deaths reported yesterday in SA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Now waiting for the predicted wave in the UK. At the end of the day, epidemiologists provide advice to the government on the current available evidence and likely outcomes from best, middle to worst, it's up to the policy makers to make their decisions from those risk assessments. When these models are announced they can be immediately labeled as scare mongering by some. So be it but that’s part and parcel of transparency and information sharing. In regards to the UK, it has a massive wall of immunity already, most adults vaccinated many with boosters and a very large share of natural immunity through previous infections. The rapid transmission of Omicron is scary, now it’s time to see how well that immunity wall holds up to it and the outcomes for severity of cases and hospital burden. Indications from SA that it is milder than Delta is positive but that is not evidence that can just yet be relied on when making preparations to protect a country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: New cases in SA in the hardest hit province have decreased for a second day in a row and positivity rate down to 16.4%. Sign of a reversal in trend? Lets hope so. 36 new deaths reported yesterday in SA https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299773/South-Africas-Omicron-outbreak-slows-figures-suggest.html It’s mild! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: New cases in SA in the hardest hit province have decreased for a second day in a row and positivity rate down to 16.4%. Sign of a reversal in trend? Lets hope so. 36 new deaths reported yesterday in SA If Omicron is mild, then let's pray it is really infectious. Europe and America could use some relief from Delta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrohistory Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299773/South-Africas-Omicron-outbreak-slows-figures-suggest.html It’s mild! Absolutely! Just like Delta was mild: (Source: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1469338784051441672) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrohistory Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Yep, looks like Omicron is just like the common cold: (Source: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1469338784051441672) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Macrohistory said: Absolutely! Just like Delta was mild: (Source: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1469338784051441672) It's unclear to me whether the reduced severity of Delta was because Delta is milder, or whether new treatments or vaccination are widespread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 11:25 PM, Blumpie said: My apologies - omicron has basically no health effects whatsoever. A headache, no runny nose, sore muscles, that's about it! No breathing difficulties. The percentage has shot up to 97 percent omicron vs 3 percent delta. Delta is done in south africa so far. The fact of the matter is if all this is true, it may come to a point that you will be able to just let this thing run its course and that is the end. Yes, they are keeping it out for now with some restrictions but you will never stop it. Eventually it will come. The numbers are coming in daily. This is great great news, and patience is key here. It's stunning that the health effects of omicron is literally nothing - most don't even realize they have it! This is not true. Omnicron has led to massive increase in hospitalizations in S Africa and a potential increase in deaths of 75 Thousand in UK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299773/South-Africas-Omicron-outbreak-slows-figures-suggest.html It’s mild! The same newspaper has a story suggesting the opposite. That's its a killer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredscats Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299773/South-Africas-Omicron-outbreak-slows-figures-suggest.html It’s mild! Not as mild as you think Southern asians are more prone to a bad dose pneumonia as covid catches them out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pedro01 Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 The headline is pure fear mongering. "Potential" case. That's not news. That's making news where none exists. Propaganda. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299773/South-Africas-Omicron-outbreak-slows-figures-suggest.html It’s mild! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10300139/Gove-leads-push-Plan-C-Covid-restrictions-dire-Omicron-modelling.html It's a killer! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrohistory Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: It's unclear to me whether the reduced severity of Delta was because Delta is milder, or whether new treatments or vaccination are widespread. It was only "milder" in places like the UK which has a good vaccination program. Wasn't so mild in India, Indonesia, etc. In other words, the relatively mild outcome in the UK since the summer (if c. 150 deaths per day can be considered mild) is a result of the setting into which the virus was spreading, not properties intrinsic to the virus itself. The same is likely to be true for Omicron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Macrohistory said: Yep, looks like Omicron is just like the common cold: (Source: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1469338784051441672) If those rates continue, then we will reach a point where as many patients are in ICU as with delta, but it will reach that point 50% faster than the delta, which is not necessarily a good thing, if it keeps rising. Then they run out of ICUs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: New cases in SA in the hardest hit province have decreased for a second day in a row and positivity rate down to 16.4%. Sign of a reversal in trend? Lets hope so. 36 new deaths reported yesterday in SA Need a few more days to see if that is part of this problem they reported on the 11th: From the National Institute for Communicable Disease SA: The NICD relies on test reports from laboratories in order to generate the daily COVID-19 statistics including the number of new cases, new tests and percent positivity rates. These delays in reporting might result in a delay in some... (2 of 3) ... COVID-19 positive tests being reflected on the national line list. All efforts are being made to resolve these technical issues and restore expected reporting timelines. (3 of 3) https://twitter.com/nicd_sa/status/1469405514446553090 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Covid: First people in UK hospitals with Omicron variant The new variant of coronavirus now accounts for a third of cases in London, the education secretary said. With two doses of a vaccine "not enough" Mr Zahawi encouraged people to get a booster jab - those aged 30 and over are eligible to do so from Monday. It is "inevitable" that there was going to be a big wave of infections but what was not clear was the impact that would have on hospitals, she said. She said the sheer weight of numbers of people being infected with Omicron means it will find the unvaccinated or people who have had a poor immune response to the vaccine. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59627188 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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