david555 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, champers said: I know the link in the OP says the bank is on Klang, but the original story back in February I am sure the branch was on Soi Buakhao. 100% correct ....but not surprised by that poster inaccurate knowledge about it , Klang and Biakhao are the Pattaya 2 main branches Edited December 10, 2021 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchpotato Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, david555 said: 100% correct ....but not surprised by that poster inaccurate knowledge about it , Klang and Biakhao are the Pattaya 2 main branches Actually another inaccuracy---Kasi Buakao branch is now closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, couchpotato said: Actually another inaccuracy---Kasi Buakao branch is now closed. oh...! that i did not know i always go for important cases to Klang .... Is Buakao "covid closed" or different reason ? Thanks for enlighten me ???? Old LT stayers knew it was S.B. branch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Both Wife and I have had both of our SCB M cards ripped off to the tune of about 100,000 Baht (both used at Apple.com) it was either Lazada or SCB themselves as these were the only places we’d both used our cards. We noticed quickly & contacted SCB, money returned. No hassles. But, there’s defo a leak & I reckon it’s the Bank… there are just too many stories of bank staff pilfering. The rewards higher than the penalties. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Makes you wonder what the lawyers are doing, should at least have got updates. You really don't want to leave too much money in Thailand, if money goes missing there's a real risk the bank will just ignore you Another reason why I keep the biggest bulk of my money in the UK. A country run mostly by Military Academy educated unelected army generals has got to be too unstable to be trusted with your money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, robblok said: I know it was not me you replied too. I agree with your sentiment but only if this was done in the bank with the person selling it in bank uniform on bank papers ect. The fact that it was a bank employee makes it indeed sound more safe (but do we know if the transactions were done in the bank or not?) But like you i would not go for it as most people with a bit of sense would find this dangerous, but then again if done in the bank that is really a mitigating circumstance. I mean it would make it seem far more plausible (but still) It would appear that customers would queue each month to see ‘Me Gob’. Banking transactions were carried out in the bank directly with a bank employee. I can’t see how the Bank is not responsible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: It would appear that customers would queue each month to see ‘Me Gob’. Banking transactions were carried out in the bank directly with a bank employee. I can’t see how the Bank is not responsible. Then i totally agree.. if inside the bank and so on then the bank is responsible (but im no Thai lawyer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodstewart Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, robblok said: Then i totally agree.. if inside the bank and so on then the bank is responsible (but im no Thai lawyer) nor me, but surely , any employee is acting for and on behalf of the company who employs him or her. therefore the Company must be liable for the actions of the employees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Both Wife and I have had both of our SCB M cards ripped off to the tune of about 100,000 Baht (both used at Apple.com) it was either Lazada or SCB themselves as these were the only places we’d both used our cards. We noticed quickly & contacted SCB, money returned. No hassles. But, there’s defo a leak & I reckon it’s the Bank… there are just too many stories of bank staff pilfering. The rewards higher than the penalties. So i guess i may call myself lucky one as in 13 years of KK i have not one complain about them , nor any financial incident....., but i also keep as much i can all transaction safe , example for online i use only 1 account from my 2 ,and on that account i use K-web card , a virtual card recognized as "visa " card connected to 1 account , such card i example add on AliExpress when buying , as soon as ordered and paid (sms from KK on smartphone ) i remove from A.E. again, Even on KK mobile banking you can set the limits to immediate changing, which i do after buying .... a bit of work .... but safe ..... don't be lazy.....???? it keeps your money on Thai banks safe And if needed the card can become immediate canceled and make a new one with different webcard number and cvv number on Home banking KK. Edited December 10, 2021 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, worgeordie said: That's why I check my bank accounts at least every month and update them , dormant accounts can attract the bandits that work IN the bank. people in debt at times like this can be tempted. regards Worgeordie I'm checking mine everyday this next week; a lot of 'maintenance" being performed over this weekend where I bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 50 minutes ago, david555 said: So i guess i may call myself lucky one as in 13 years of KK i have not one complain about them , nor any financial incident....., but i also keep as much i can all transaction safe , example for online i use only 1 account from my 2 ,and on that account i use K-web card , a virtual card recognized as "visa " card connected to 1 account , such card i example add on AliExpress when buying , as soon as ordered and paid (sms from KK on smartphone ) i remove from A.E. again, Even on KK mobile banking you can set the limits to immediate changing, which i do after buying .... a bit of work .... but safe ..... don't be lazy.....???? it keeps your money on Thai banks safe And if needed the card can become immediate canceled and make a new one with different webcard number and cvv number on Home banking KK. This was the first time for me to have a spurious Credit Card Transaction in Thailand. Wife was hit a few days before me, first time for her too. My Mother in Law was taken for over 1 Million Baht on her Credit Card about 10 years ago ( I can’t recall which was the issuing Bank ). MiL was protected and did not face losses. To be honest, I get ripped off far more often in the UK with online transactions, I always get contacted by my CC company there - someone has ’tested’ my card with a 50p transaction etc. Apparently scammers do that to test if the card works etc. The protection is one thing, but dealing with and then waiting for a new card is a real pain in the backside when travelling so much. Malaysia used to be a real hotbed of card scamming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, lodstewart said: nor me, but surely , any employee is acting for and on behalf of the company who employs him or her. therefore the Company must be liable for the actions of the employees If a bank employee took out a gun, and shot a customer, in the bank, would the bank be liable? Or could they say he was not acting on behalf of the company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: This was the first time for me to have a spurious Credit Card Transaction in Thailand. Wife was hit a few days before me, first time for her too. My Mother in Law was taken for over 1 Million Baht on her Credit Card about 10 years ago ( I can’t recall which was the issuing Bank ). MiL was protected and did not face losses. To be honest, I get ripped off far more often in the UK with online transactions, I always get contacted by my CC company there - someone has ’tested’ my card with a 50p transaction etc. Apparently scammers do that to test if the card works etc. The protection is one thing, but dealing with and then waiting for a new card is a real pain in the backside when travelling so much. Malaysia used to be a real hotbed of card scamming. if you are so much targeted ....then it would be a good thing to ask yourself if really taken security enough , somewhere there could be a wrong behavior possible , as soo much ripped of is not normal anymore Facebook ,twitter ...or any of those other ones ...., as i have none ...but i have being asked many many times to change my passwords or confirming change of password or logins ..... And i have NONE of those , so i knew it was a attempt to let me click on ...."something " Only once by login on AliExpress A.E. site asked me to confirm the change of adres ....(?) i replied in AliExpress messenger to A.E. that i did not change adress they asked me to change my password immediate ....so i did The supposed address change was instead of my Thai Address somewhere a village in U.K. unknow by me as European .... looks liked like (but was not ) Berkishere on ...xxxx ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jacko45k said: If a bank employee took out a gun, and shot a customer, in the bank, would the bank be liable? Or could they say he was not acting on behalf of the company? If your wife shoot somebody ...... would you be responsible too ?....as she is your better half ???? "Same same but bit different" (as your example) ...., as they say in Thailand Edited December 10, 2021 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 hours ago, snowgard said: Because they don't want to pay !!! I am sure that the bank did not do anything wrong from their point of view and only the bank assistant is responsible for it. The victims will likely have to sue the bank for damages. And then at least 10-15 years pass before the 3rd court instance. The Bank itself probably are taking the line that it was , and is , not them that is responsible for the fraud. An Employee was responsible, and has been convicted, so therefore all claims for compensation are to be directed to him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgard Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 hours ago, HAPPYNUFF said: We travelled there, no joy, bank refused to look at the matter, insisted wife must have taken money out herself. They couldnt/wouldnt explain how that was possible as she has never had or used an ATM, just doesnt trust them,, with good reason... Back to Nakhon Nowhere, she closed her account, I withdrew my Visa holding money, plus my own savings account. Bank Manager cried, wept, gnashed his teeth. Too bloody bad. Why you don't made a police report? It's easy and free!!! I would never let someone run with my money away!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgard Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: What makes you think that they were given bank contracts"?! Do you give your money to someone without a investion contract or investion agreement? Me not!!! ???? But even then it can happen that the paper is worthless. Edited December 10, 2021 by snowgard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 hours ago, david555 said: But the ROI alone should have send out a lot of red flags. That alone already is the first point of remark to an individual such high MONTHLY 3.5% should already be the bank lawyers defense something those individuals would have understand that this was terrible wrong .....???? Can i sell them a piece of the moon too? "peanuts money" for a few acres , quick be the first ones "Can I sell them a piece of the moon too?"--- By "them" I take it you mean Thai's----- Maybe you would be better off selling your piece of the moon to people closer to your home. Bernard Madoff, the Manhattan investment adviser who promised stellar returns to his A-list clients and instead defrauded them of more than $19 billion in history’s largest Ponzi scheme, has died. He was 82. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sanuk711 said: "Can I sell them a piece of the moon too?"--- By "them" I take it you mean Thai's----- Maybe you would be better off selling your piece of the moon to people closer to your home. Bernard Madoff, the Manhattan investment adviser who promised stellar returns to his A-list clients and instead defrauded them of more than $19 billion in history’s largest Ponzi scheme, has died. He was 82. . No i was not referring to Thais especially , more to investors believing a 3.5% a month interest while interests are bottom low worldwide ???? Edited December 10, 2021 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, david555 said: 100% correct ....but not surprised by that poster inaccurate knowledge about it , Klang and Biakhao are the Pattaya 2 main branches Klang and Pattaya Tai are the 2 main Kasikorn branches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I feel for the bank manager, known her for nearly 20 years, back then she was an assistant manager Pattaya Tai branch, so very helpful. She is such a hard worker and has helped me with many issues, trying so hard to get items I wasn't entitled to because of my visa status (Working offshore I traveled to Thailand on a tourist visa, working on a 28/28 rotation so tourist visa all I needed), such as credit cards, including spouse, foreign currency account, bank safety box etc., every Christmas/New year she would always give me a little gift. I hope she doesn't suffer because of this 1 bad egg (criminal) Sadly this theft, fraudulent behavior issue could happen to any branch, any bank. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Klang and Pattaya Tai are the 2 main Kasikorn branches that are the 2 i was referring to... KLang (Central road...) and the one CLOSE to entrance Soi Bhuakao (i have still problems with Thai street naming ????) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Cake Monster said: The Bank itself probably are taking the line that it was , and is , not them that is responsible for the fraud. An Employee was responsible, and has been convicted, so therefore all claims for compensation are to be directed to him They should have noticed that this assistant manager spent more time in the branch and working, than would normally be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 33 minutes ago, jacko45k said: They should have noticed that this assistant manager spent more time in the branch and working, than would normally be expected. So you have his branche presence schedule ....? ???? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodstewart Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 14 hours ago, jacko45k said: If a bank employee took out a gun, and shot a customer, in the bank, would the bank be liable? Or could they say he was not acting on behalf of the company? yes the Bank public liability insurance would honour that claim, because it happened on thier premises and by one of thier emloyees in the working day, also the employee would obviously be tried for murder or manslaughter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, lodstewart said: yes the Bank public liability insurance would honour that claim, because it happened on thier premises and by one of thier emloyees in the working day, also the employee would obviously be tried for murder or manslaughter. I personally do not know if those liability clauses are written into insurance..... it is often said 'liability, responsibility' etc are less of a thing in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodstewart Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, jacko45k said: I personally do not know if those liability clauses are written into insurance..... it is often said 'liability, responsibility' etc are less of a thing in Thailand. less of a thing in Thailand, maybe, but if insurance is not there, then the Bank or company would have to make compensation for damage and injury to the injured Party, on thier premises, caused by their employee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Those 20 best chance is to put money together , hire a good lawyer and make a group claim to the bank ....(if they didn't that maybe already ?????) any other waiting to police action is lost effort and time . The only chance for them is starting themselves a court case , police report is done already so now starting a court case is the only outcome ....... Might be the bank is waiting for that to react Edited December 11, 2021 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, lodstewart said: less of a thing in Thailand, maybe, but if insurance is not there, then the Bank or company would have to make compensation for damage and injury to the injured Party, on thier premises, caused by their employee Again you seem to know more about Thai law than I do. I do not have that level of confidence..... People seem to do wrong with impunity here all too often. Edited December 11, 2021 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodstewart Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, jacko45k said: Again you seem to know more about Thai law than I do. I do not have that level of confidence..... People seem to do wrong with impunity here all too often. yes I agree, however you have to understand that if this Guy was not working for the bank , and stopped any of these investors in the street, do you think that any of them would have withdrawn their money from the bank and handed it to him on the promise of such good returns, of course they wouldn't. they only did this because they were under the umbrella of the bank, on the bank premises talking to the bank employeee. they felt safe only because of the bank name. Therefore because the bank interviewed and employed him they are liable. The investors simply trusted the bank and the banks name. not the guy personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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