Pattaya City officials say they continue to work to solve problems with overpopulation of street dogs in the area

[Meat Pie 47]

3 hours ago, The Fugitive said:

Wern't they an issue a little while ago in Australia where the authorities dropped industrial quantities of poisoned sausage meat from aircraft?

Yes they are a problem in Australia but not in cities rater the country  where they affect local wild life

[ThaiSmarterThanYou]

Overpopulation ?  where ? Sometimes I walk somewhere and do not see a dog, so clearly they aren't enough !

 

[ThaiSmarterThanYou]

8 hours ago, steven100 said:

another idiot.   these dogs are pests,  they fight, bite kids and elderly,  they carry diseases.

can't these people understand that    !!     

 

Talking for yourself ? Dogs only bite idiot adults who still know nothing and maybe once a year a stupid kid who is as retarded as his parents who are not able to teach him anything !

Dogs are here forever and will still be here when you will be gone... fortunately !

 

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[steven100]

Just now, ThaiSmarterThanYou said:

 

Talking for yourself ? Dogs only bite idiot adults who still know nothing and maybe once a year a stupid kid who is as retarded as his parents who are not able to teach him anything !

Dogs are here forever and will still be here when you will be gone... fortunately !

 

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oh dear ....  an apologist for soi dogs.    Well how about you take in all those flee bitten mongrels and care for them .... oh sorry,   that would cost money and it would incriminate you hence just talk  !!    Lol

 

gimmee a break .... 

[newnative]

    In a nutshell, doing the same thing over and over with the same poor results.   And, just what are they training the dogs to do?   Sheer madness.

[Postmaster]

Bruno 123 has it wrong.  Time is well overdue to call time on Soi Dogs.  The marauding packs around the Temple area on Jomtien Beach Road chasing domesticated animals accompanying their owners

is a menacing sight.  Some of these have neck collars too so must be owned but are free to roam at will.  There are many others just sleeping on footways and have to be bypassed. Some terrorise cyclists and running children.  Ask at any A&E department what they think of soi dogs and dog bites !

[StayinThailand2much]

Wait till Covid-19 becomes 'a thing' among Soi dogs - the virus then will 'always' be around, whether the pandemic (among humans) is 'over', or not. With so many Soi dogs around, it won't take long for a new infection wave to materialise...

Edited December 12, 2021 by StayinThailand2much

[morrobay]

7 hours ago, morrobay said:

There is not enough strychnine in Thailand

And it seems also not enough thorazine in thailand ^^

Edited December 12, 2021 by morrobay

[Destiny1990]

Besides all the biting attacks how many serious motorcycle accidents did his “lovely” stray dogs caused?? Fyi these  loose dogs do not follow any traffic laws. I would prefer seeing zero stray dogs in Thailand.

[NoshowJones]

8 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Oh how I wish this were true, we have a multitude of feral cats wandering about destroying all the bike seats & tires and defecating all over the place. 

Don't cats not dig a hole, bury their sh!t, then cover it up.

[hackjam]

9 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Contact Smith & Wesson I'm sure they have a solution

Yes indeed, for the asswipes that feed them.

[Leaver]

22 minutes ago, hackjam said:

Yes indeed, for the asswipes that feed them.

 

I would rather see the dogs put down quickly and humanly than starved to death.  

[CharlieH]

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[daveAustin]

4 hours ago, ThaiSmarterThanYou said:

Dogs only bite idiot adults who still know nothing and maybe once a year a stupid kid who is as retarded as his parents who are not able to teach him anything !

You must’ve been bitten quite a bit then. 

[Stargeezr]

Dog problems again? Why are the stray soi dogs not taken care of by the government.

  The government could hire a dog catcher, and if the dog has an owner, it has to have a collar and

registered number on it. If not the dog gets put down, or killed off as it costs to feed these animals.

Most countries have modern policies to take care of this problem. A third world, or developing country

however has its many excuses, or reasons that it has to do things differently.

[cdemundo]

Training the dogs seems like a strange idea.

What will they be trained to do?

Roll over and play dead?

Shake hands?

I don't get how training strays can solve the problem.

[Hans Johnson]

Round them up and take them across the border to Vietnam.  They love barbecue dog meat. 

[jacko45k]

22 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

continuing to solve street

Interesting phrase, although it is either solved or not.

[bkk6060]

They need to follow some western country philosophies and corral most of them up and gas them.  Sorry.

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by bkk6060

[brianthainess]

19 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Feral cats are rare in all countries. They are not an issue in any country.

Australia HATE feral cats, Rabbits and Kangaroos.

[jacko45k]

4 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

Australia HATE feral cats, Rabbits and Kangaroos.

The cats were imported of course and have been successful, and many of the domestic wildlife has no defence against these capable hunters. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Packs of stray dogs have no place in urban areas in a civilised society.

 

The end.

[law ling]

Roaming dogs are an issue in most South East Asian countries ... and certainly not less so here.

 

The locals, having grown up with them, deal with it better than tourists who are unfamilar with dealing with unrestrained agressive dogs.

 

Even the OP states there is an "overpopulation" - but offers little by way of a real solution.

 

Rabies has been found in nearby Huay Yai (reported here some weeks ago) - but rabid or not, the least bite will need a course of injections, at your cost.

 

As noted above: they may transmit covid (and goodness knows what else).

[Thunglom]

CNVR

Catch, neuter, vaccinate and return

"“We have been doing the current project of returning dogs back to their homes (the street, beach, etc. where they were found) after sterilization for three years now. This project was hugely successful before and had been reducing the population of dogs over time in a safe and humane manner while allowing the dogs to live in their natural environments as long as they were not aggressive or caused problems.”"

 

This is the ONLY way to solve the "dog problem".

I can't say if it is working in Pattaya - they need to release the figures.

However if the campaign is carried out in a half-hearted or haphazard way, then it won't work.

 

Failing to sterilise the dogs when caught  just means they are wasting time- I'm sure if corruption is involved people will take money for treatment they are not delivering.

 

The other SERIOUS problem is feeding of dogs by the general public, this only makes the population problem worse.

[Thunglom]

6 hours ago, law ling said:

 

Roaming dogs are an issue in most South East Asian countries ... and certainly not less so here.

 

Actually you r perception is inaccurate. The problem exists in many countries - Russia Turkey etc but countries neighbouring Thailand don't have anywhere near the same m=numbers of dogs. even Laos the poorest country in ASEAN doesn't have a dog problem like Thailand. Thailand's problem arises from quasi-Buddhist thinking that thinks that feeding dogs makes merit. Other countries have a more practical outlook.

In fact if you go the Muslim areas in Thailand you'll notice a marked absence of stray /soi dogs as they are culturally shined.

 

 

[Thunglom]

6 hours ago, law ling said:

Even the OP states there is an "overpopulation" - but offers little by way of a real solution.

OP is actually carrying out the real solution. 

“We have been doing the current project of returning dogs back to their homes (the street, beach, etc. where they were found) after sterilization for three years now.

[Thunglom]

On 12/12/2021 at 1:50 AM, Geoffggi said:

Contact Smith & Wesson I'm sure they have a solution

Culling has been shown not to work.

[Thunglom]

On 12/12/2021 at 6:54 AM, Longreach said:

Feral cats are a MASSIVE problem in Australia. That would be one country.

YES indeed! - Feral cats are instrumental in the mass extermination of many marsupial and native species.

Although Australia is arguably a special case, when you get huge "monocultures" of any one species it is detrimental to the local ecology. Large number of dogs, quite apart from the dangers and inconveniences to humans have a detrimental effect on the local ecology - destroying habitat, killing other species and generally expa=elling all other animals from the area.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Thunglom

[Geoffggi]

11 hours ago, Thunglom said:

Culling has been shown not to work.

Not if it is maintained ................LOL

[Thunglom]

15 minutes ago, Geoffggi said:

Not if it is maintained ................LOL

Not correct.

If you go in and cull a population -of say 100.000 dogs.

you first problem is HOW.

Poisoning kills all sorts of other wildlife

Shooting is not guaranteed effective - you end up with wounded animals crawling into places and dying later and you have tens of thousands of carcasses to dispose of. This is a serious logistics problem. furthermore do you want people firing live ammo in an urban environment?

There is also the certainty of a public outcry in Thailand as shown in BKK a few years back.

Those are just some of the immediate problems.

however this is then followed by the second wave.

If you remove a lot of dogs from an area, they are quickly replaced with dogs from adjacent areas and the rate of breeding will rise as well. 

you then end up with dogs from a wider area coming into your "culled" area and bring with them diseases such as rabies and also they may not be neutered and vaccinated so diseases spread thyoughboth dog and human population.

On a world scale culling only works on relatively small and isolated populations such as those on islands. Even then care has t be taken not to introduce new animals into the area.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Thunglom