Thai farmers worry as Chinese-Laos high speed trains bring competing produce from China

[Almer]

Surely not, China would never do that

[humbug]

6 hours ago, Nicholas Paul KNIGHT said:

Actually histoprically they could well be your ancestors as well. okay some 15000 tears ago but still ancestors 

No way, you just being a pro-Beijing troll, or just believe any old Chinese wiki story, many Historians are now starting to even question China's 5000 year history claim, on top of the other fake or made up claims over land. 

 

Han China going back 2000 years was mostly tiny in land area, mainly 1300 onwards after gaining Mongolia did it resemble what it does nowdays, after the last 100 years invading Tibet and East Turkistan, even Hmong tribe are older than the Han Chinese, It was the Han that kicked the Hmong off their land

[mr_lob]

1 hour ago, bbko said:

Surely the train cars returning to China won't be empty, so what will they be filled with?

Maybe send them back some Covid?

[Enzian]

In trade as in war, other things being equal the most ruthless will win.

China delenda est.

[edwinchester]

8 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

At last there is a blink in the eye of the Thai farmers realising they have been sold down the river ..................

Yeah same as the UK farmers who were duped into voting for Brexit only to realise after the event that the vast majority of beneficiaries were those farmers living abroad.

[herfiehandbag]

5 hours ago, Orinoco said:

We in the uk had an ambassador on this very subject for many years. LOL.

 

Yes, and as in many other matters, unsubtle, most certainly not politically correct, but uncannily accurate ...

[Albert Zweistein]

8 hours ago, Nicholas Paul KNIGHT said:

Actually histoprically they could well be your ancestors as well. okay some 15000 tears ago but still ancestors 

Histoprically ? 15000 tears is a lot of tears. Let me guess, Chang ?

[EricTh]

The food prices in Thai market have gone up recently so hopefully this will bring down the price.

 

Blame the Thai government for not building the high speed train to connect to Laos with too much red-tape.

 

China would be a great market for Thai goods such as rubber, rice and durian.

 

Thai people should speed up the building of the railway for increase two-way trade that will bring prices down.

Edited December 14, 2021 by EricTh

[EricTh]

3 hours ago, bbko said:

Surely the train cars returning to China won't be empty, so what will they be filled with?

 

It is not empty, they are filled up with Laos fresh produce such as citrus fruit, durian, pineapple and other similar items that Thailand also produce.

 

China has a huge population with a huge appetite.

Edited December 14, 2021 by EricTh

[zzaa09]

1 hour ago, humbug said:

No way, you just being a pro-Beijing troll, or just believe any old Chinese wiki story, many Historians are now starting to even question China's 5000 year history claim, on top of the other fake or made up claims over land. 

 

 

Could be worse. 

Could be the fake, made up and revised Eurocentric version/perspective of all things historic.

[itsari]

5 hours ago, heybuz said:

IS that steptoe,spittin image.

 

Don't be silly , Steptoe would not be seen dead in that hat .

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, edwinchester said:

Yeah same as the UK farmers who were duped into voting for Brexit only to realise after the event that the vast majority of beneficiaries were those farmers living abroad.

Strewth not Brexit back again. 

[edwinchester]

26 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Strewth not Brexit back again. 

Yep, the disaster that keeps on giving.

[kimamey]

5 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

Competition within any sector of Industry is really good.

The best will always rise to the top, and give consumers what they need at a realistic price, and often with added value.

The prices on Veggies rise every Year about this time, just as Tourists arrive ( historically ), but this Year the Tourists are not in Thailand in any great number, so therefore the Market is smaller and more competitive.

The Thai Farmers need to get into the real world, and start producing at realistic costs to remain in the game, and not to just plant and forget.

 

There is the issue of how ethically things are produced of course. That's true of both sides and other producers worldwide but the Chinese seem to have the focus on them at the moment. 

[kimamey]

5 hours ago, bbko said:

Surely the train cars returning to China won't be empty, so what will they be filled with?

I don't think it's capacity that's the problem but restrictions on goods going into China. 

This has long been the situation due to the imbalance between imports and exports and not only between China and Thailand. In the UK for a long time it was cheaper to export waste to China for disposal or recycling because transport was so cheap in empty containers returning to China. 

[kimamey]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Strewth not Brexit back again. 

It's not back. It's never gone away. 

Some of the issues with Brexit are the same worldwide. A country usually trades most with those closest and/or biggest. Thailand has China which is close and big. The UK trades with the EU for the same reason.  The USA trades with Canada and Mexico because they are close. Even Trump who hated Mexico and probably wasn't that keen on Canada didn't stop trading with Mexico because they are close. 

Everyone trades with China because they are big. 

[garyk]

Might as well learn to love and accept the produce SomChai. You will be assimilated in a few years anyway.

[timberpond]

Wow! high speed trains are for hauling goods?

[natway09]

I certainly hope that Thailand is not allowing meat in.

Vegetables like carrots, garlic, broccoli & cauli's  from China look good but no taste along with 

having been to many market gardens in China the array of pesticides & dodgy fertilizers 

make me shy away from buying them.

[soi3eddie]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai farmers and farm cooperatives are calling for the government to conduct diplomatic talks with China to solve the increase of non-tariff barriers on Thai fresh food products.

I can see the "diplomatic talks with China", if any ever occur, going something like this:

Thai General: Please can we have equal trade for our people?

CCP official: You want our "investment" money then we do as we please

Thai General: Oh OK that's fine then. Carry on.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by soi3eddie

[Albert Zweistein]

High speed train at max. 160 km/hr ?

[Stargeezr]

Yes China does not do things out of the goodness of their hearts.

   Big Brother China, is how I see it.

  

[placnx]

20 hours ago, EricTh said:

 

It is not empty, they are filled up with Laos fresh produce such as citrus fruit, durian, pineapple and other similar items that Thailand also produce.

 

China has a huge population with a huge appetite.

Well, there's that insatiable appetite for rosewood. More people in China now have money to show off with luxury furniture, so rosewood trees vanished from forests all over the world.

[placnx]

21 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Could be worse. 

Could be the fake, made up and revised Eurocentric version/perspective of all things historic.

China does history the old way, doing a rewrite every time that there's regime change, to glorify the present incumbent. At least in the West there is freedom to question the narrative and do course corrections as we reexamine the past. That ethos is imbedded in Wikipedia, too, but Chinese trolls are hard at work there to substitute their fake narratives.

[ben2talk]

On 12/14/2021 at 7:27 AM, hotchilli said:

Thais don't like competition.

Obviously you didn't go to Thai school.

Students are told, when buying goods - always buy Good Quality, and that means buy Thai.

If you didn't learn this in a Thai school, you are uneducated and would never be able to work it out for yourself 5555555555