brianthainess Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 16 hours ago, connda said: But of course, he could have sustained significant head injuries before his fall. No CCTV. No witnesses. No crime. Ahhhh will people PLEASE read the full story there WERE witnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said: Years ago (don't know about now), there were very aggressive ladyboys active in this particular area, trying to grab one's valuables when you walked by. Also, wasn't there word out about numerous homeless, etc., on the beach these days. Add the 'ghost town' scenery of 2021, and who knows... For all we know, he could have been hit over the head several Sois down (or up), either side of the road, stumbling on, before finally collapsing near Soi 6. Nah...Just silly pointless speculation seeking to vilify poor, homeless and transgender people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: Apparently near Soi 6, Soi 6\1 is the ladyboy soi So, are the bars open? Even if not, there could have been ladyboys around. These are desperate times. People approaching you, hugging you to grab your wallet, then the Dutch guy said/did something that someone didn't like... - There have been instances were ladyboys have thrown rocks (Pattaya), or hit someone on the head with their shoes (Nana, Bangkok). People don't just drop like flies when on a walk. Okay, perhaps he had a heart condition, but if so he must have known, so why then was he out at 1 A.M. if he knew he wasn't well? Edited December 28, 2021 by StayinThailand2much 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Well this old fellow was in a tropical country, walking along beach road, with the ocean in sight, when he collapses and died. At least he was not in Holland suffering their Winter weather. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkokian2019 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Until a few hours ago, Amarin TV had a (disgusting) video clip online that showed how they tried to revive the person. Seems they've pulled it now. https://www.amarintv.com/news/detail/114234 The name mentioned indicates that the deceased wasn't a Dutchman. Sawang Boriboon Thammasathan Rescue Police officers in Pattaya rushed to the scene. When they arrived at the scene, they found a large number of people watching. The body of the foreign tourist Mr. xxxxx xxxxx, 47, was found unconscious on the road. He had a head wound. There were foreign tourists to help him. No mention (anymore) that many didn't want to help because they thought he had covid. Seems that they've pulled that part as well. A copy of the a. m. video clip is still online. Don't watch if you don't want to see distressing scenes. https://siamrath.co.th/n/309010 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 These 2 snippets from the link give a different perspective of what may or may not have transpired. Seemed nobody actually saw him fall or attended to him right away. https://today.line.me/th/v2/article/kEj8v9o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropposurfer Posted December 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 Prefer to drop dead walking in a tropical place, free than to be kept in an old folks home interminably. RIP mate ???? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Cardiac arrest maybe not heart attack, but usually when people fall over they don't get a serious head injury unless very unlucky Yes, that does seem unlikely, to collapse while walking and get a serious head injury. (Presuming he did not fall over a drop or edge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 22 hours ago, Nojohndoe said: And maybe he died of causes due to age and poor health? It does happen ! As even young footballers die a sudden ....those things can happen ....not only for the old age group 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 News-blip stating 47 yrs old, so not really an 'old age' issue, not saying youngins can't have coronaries at any age. Sure the autopsy will have some input, if released. What ever, hope it was sudden & painless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 guys who have strokes just check out like this hitting their head as they fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrnuno41 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Bangkokian2019 said: Until a few hours ago, Amarin TV had a (disgusting) video clip online that showed how they tried to revive the person. Seems they've pulled it now. https://www.amarintv.com/news/detail/114234 The name mentioned indicates that the deceased wasn't a Dutchman. Sawang Boriboon Thammasathan Rescue Police officers in Pattaya rushed to the scene. When they arrived at the scene, they found a large number of people watching. The body of the foreign tourist Mr. xxxxx xxxxx, 47, was found unconscious on the road. He had a head wound. There were foreign tourists to help him. No mention (anymore) that many didn't want to help because they thought he had covid. Seems that they've pulled that part as well. A copy of the a. m. video clip is still online. Don't watch if you don't want to see distressing scenes. https://siamrath.co.th/n/309010 The guy has a good ritme for heart massage, but they also should blow in air every 30 compression's. I dont see that happen. You need to do that as well. Well maybe video doesnt show all. He collapsed, so it could be a heart attack. My grandfather in law went the same way, just got out of bed, did some steps and then collapsed and died. I think i wouldnt mind going like this, its quick. Way better then a hospital bed with some kind of disease wearing you out. Also already saw on tv in 2 football games, players having heart arrest(attack), but already known with their condition and having a pacemaker. So it kicks in to shock your heart and bring it back to working, at least it did then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 18 hours ago, Tropposurfer said: Prefer to drop dead walking in a tropical place, free than to be kept in an old folks home interminably. RIP mate ???? 47 years just is not that old unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 18 hours ago, Tropposurfer said: Prefer to drop dead walking in a tropical place, free than to be kept in an old folks home interminably. RIP mate ???? What's that song - "the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Bangkokian2019 said: Until a few hours ago, Amarin TV had a (disgusting) video clip online that showed how they tried to revive the person. Seems they've pulled it now. https://www.amarintv.com/news/detail/114234 The name mentioned indicates that the deceased wasn't a Dutchman. Sawang Boriboon Thammasathan Rescue Police officers in Pattaya rushed to the scene. When they arrived at the scene, they found a large number of people watching. The body of the foreign tourist Mr. xxxxx xxxxx, 47, was found unconscious on the road. He had a head wound. There were foreign tourists to help him. No mention (anymore) that many didn't want to help because they thought he had covid. Seems that they've pulled that part as well. A copy of the a. m. video clip is still online. Don't watch if you don't want to see distressing scenes. https://siamrath.co.th/n/309010 Didn't see any rescue breaths being given in that video... CPR is useless without compressions and rescue breaths to put air into the lungs. Correct ratio is 30 compressions and 2 rescue breaths. Continue until paramedics arrive or the victim starts breathing again, in which case put into recovery position and monitor pulse. The rescuers surely would have had a first aid kit with barriers for applying rescue breaths; a mask and a puffer bag are the usual ones, means you do not have to contact the victim directly, extremely handy when there is a lot of blood on the victim. The emergency responders should have also had and used an AED as well as CPR to try and revive the victim. Edited December 29, 2021 by Mr Meeseeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, nausea said: What's that song - "the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep". The Gambler - Kenny Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 When you get in a situation like this you need to be at the right place at the right time. Glen Hoddle survived a cardiac arrest because he went to the BT studio on his birthday and did not stay at home with his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 1:26 PM, StayinThailand2much said: So, are the bars open? Even if not, there could have been ladyboys around. These are desperate times. People approaching you, hugging you to grab your wallet, then the Dutch guy said/did something that someone didn't like... - There have been instances were ladyboys have thrown rocks (Pattaya), or hit someone on the head with their shoes (Nana, Bangkok). People don't just drop like flies when on a walk. Okay, perhaps he had a heart condition, but if so he must have known, so why then was he out at 1 A.M. if he knew he wasn't well? Your name says it all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 2:43 PM, Bangkokian2019 said: Until a few hours ago, Amarin TV had a (disgusting) video clip online that showed how they tried to revive the person. I'm not sure what qualifies as "disgusting" in the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Often if you are a designated first aider or first responder other people will get in the way and try to interfere. Untrained persons and do-gooders are an additional danger to an already tense and difficult situation. Twice I have come to the aid of someone in Thailand and on both occasions local bumpkins or friends of the victim have interfered and on one of the occasions the victim's friend seemed to think I was trying to take something out of his pockets lol. If he had a clue he would have seen on my wrist a watch worth over 1.2m thb. That incident was not serious, just a guy passed out and drunk but the other was a cardiac arrest which the victim would most certainly have died without my intervention. Right place, right time I guess. Normally, if the victim isn't breathing you have three to four minutes to revive them or it's lights out as the brain will die if starved of oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkokian2019 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 20 hours ago, tgw said: I'm not sure what qualifies as "disgusting" in the video? The original, much longer Amarin TV video clip included a very sensationalist intro by the TV anchors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 i didn't even read it. rip. not news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said: Your name says it all say's who ... oh sorry, making out your in Thailand when your not. best you stay in Auss. Lol Edited December 30, 2021 by steven100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 3:45 PM, jacko45k said: Yes, that does seem unlikely, to collapse while walking and get a serious head injury. (Presuming he did not fall over a drop or edge). those thai footpaths are dangerous ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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