webfact Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The health office in the southern province of Songkhla has reported its first fatality from Omicron variant today (Sunday). The patient died at the Hat Yai Hospital on Wednesday. The patient was a bed-ridden 86 year old woman who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease. She had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine at Na Mom Hospital and was thought to have contracted COVID-19 from her grandson, who had returned from Phuket. According to the timeline, the woman had a fever and productive cough on January 6th. She tested positive, using an antigen test kit, and was sent to Hat Yai Hospital the following day, where a second test confirmed the infection. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-first-omicron-variant-death-reported-in-songkhla-province/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-01-17 - Aetna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 Its good to read a factual report with plenty of information so we can draw our own conclusions.... It certainly seems that Covid-19 tipped the old dear over the edge into the nether..... I wonder if a regular cold or flu would not have done the same. Sadly, the vaccines were not enough to prevent serious infection but I continue to believe that vaccines are effective in protecting the vast majority. 36 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NicholasTH Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 Age 86 .. ???? 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, NicholasTH said: Age 86 .. ???? She could have had anther decade..... 5 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TooMuchTime Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, NicholasTH said: Age 86 .. ???? This means we need to vaccinate all children with double doses to end the pandemic! A healthy young 86 year old dying with covid is very unusual. 6 1 4 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: She could have had anther decade..... Yes, maybe, maybe not - but she is also 7 years over average life expectancy for a Thai women ! She is even older than UK life expectancy for a woman. People have to die of something, she could have also probably died of just seasonal flu ! If it ever gets to the point of keeping countries closed for the deaths of people in their eighties dying with omicron, Thailand - and the world - would really be up the creek 35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 hours ago, webfact said: The patient was a bed-ridden 86 year old woman who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease. A little unfair to record this as a death from Omicron, it was probably a contributing factor but the lady was not actually in peak physical condition from the description given. 27 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Geoffggi said: A little unfair to record this as a death from Omicron, it was probably a contributing factor but the lady was not actually in peak physical condition from the description given. Part reason why tallies are so high in the west. Go to hospital with something completely unrelated to covid, contract covid later on but die of the original condition within 28 days and you’re still added to the covid deaths. 24 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whaleboneman Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 Kind of sad that they have to blame the grandson. Maybe just leave that out of the news as it benefits no one. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kotsak Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, whaleboneman said: Kind of sad that they have to blame the grandson. Maybe just leave that out of the news as it benefits no one. It benefits the continuous state of fear.. that's why some call it a media pandemic.. 19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) The more important aspect that this raises for me is how this was handled with the grandson depending on how old he is and his understanding. Hopefully plenty of consideration will have been given to avoid him feeling guilt for the rest of his life. The debate on the victim ie Omicron the cause and her obvious age and health status is a very poor secondary consideration. If she had been involved in a car accident ended up fighting for her life in ICU and died she would have been classified as a road traffic victim, despite her age possibly contributing to her death. Omicron was the trigger for this and so Omicron is to blame for her earlier than anticipated death. Edited January 16, 2022 by Bkk Brian 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardL Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Geoffggi said: A little unfair to record this as a death from Omicron, it was probably a contributing factor but the lady was not actually in peak physical condition from the description given. If it's a contributing factor it will normally be recorded on the death certificate, whatever the illness. It doesn't mean she died specifically OF Omicron, of course, but it would also be unfair to say it wasn't an Omicron death, just because she had other illnesses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 hours ago, webfact said: The patient was a bed-ridden 86 year old woman who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease. She had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine at Na Mom Hospital and was thought to have contracted COVID-19 from her grandson, who had returned from Phuket. Loving families love to share. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Its good to read a factual report with plenty of information so we can draw our own conclusions.... It certainly seems that Covid-19 tipped the old dear over the edge into the nether..... I wonder if a regular cold or flu would not have done the same. Sadly, the vaccines were not enough to prevent serious infection but I continue to believe that vaccines are effective in protecting the vast majority. Yes normally they would leave out all the details of the age and underlying health issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 A post with false or misleading information has been removed. It was determined that her death was due to the Omicron variant of Covid. Whether someone is 86 or 16, whether the person is in peak physical condition or morbidly obese, a medical examiner/coroner will make the determination of cause of death. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 From the linked news article: "...According to the timeline, the woman had a fever and productive cough..." This is the first time I see a productive cough mentioned where the type of cough is specifically mentioned. Previously, it was always a dry cough wife all variants of the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fittobethaied Posted January 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2022 3 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Yes, maybe, maybe not - but she is also 7 years over average life expectancy for a Thai women ! She is even older than UK life expectancy for a woman. People have to die of something, she could have also probably died of just seasonal flu ! If it ever gets to the point of keeping countries closed for the deaths of people in their eighties dying with omicron, Thailand - and the world - would really be up the creek That's exactly what's happening, so we're already there. This lunacy has got to stop! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 hours ago, webfact said: She had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine Wow ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 hours ago, TooMuchTime said: This means we need to vaccinate all children with double doses to end the pandemic! A healthy young 86 year old dying with covid is very unusual. Actually, the news article says "a bed-ridden 86 year old woman who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease." There must have been something more than Alzheimer's for her to be bedridden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 About 80 percent of infections are now Omicron variant. First person died at the age of 86. She could probably have died by a normal flu, or just a cold at the wrong time. Feel sorry for her and the family, of course. However, it´s time to stop the clown circus. This is no longer more than a normal flu. learn to live with it and open up the country. The other option is to let everyone get infected before opening. Maybe another 5 - 10 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: IF the 86 year old lady had not caught Covid-19 (Omicron Variant) - would she be alive now or dead ??? There is only one person that can say for sure & he never let's on ................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Its good to read a factual report with plenty of information so we can draw our own conclusions.... It certainly seems that Covid-19 tipped the old dear over the edge into the nether..... I wonder if a regular cold or flu would not have done the same. Sadly, the vaccines were not enough to prevent serious infection but I continue to believe that vaccines are effective in protecting the vast majority. Good report and good follow up post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKC Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Geoffggi said: A little unfair to record this as a death from Omicron, it was probably a contributing factor but the lady was not actually in peak physical condition from the description given. Either she died from omicron (cause of death) or not. We are informed of this as a statement of fact. What is "unfair" about it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted January 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, ChrisKC said: Either she died from omicron (cause of death) or not. We are informed of this as a statement of fact. What is "unfair" about it? Possibly the statement of fact - It is an easy get out at the moment to blame Covid and one used too often to keep up the scare tactics IMO 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cooked Posted January 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2022 In Ireland (only coutry I have stats for) the average age at death due to Covid is two years more than the average life expectancy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, whaleboneman said: Kind of sad that they have to blame the grandson. Maybe just leave that out of the news as it benefits no one. like when someone gets killed by a car just leave the car out of it, not the car fault 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocoonclub Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, daveAustin said: contract covid later on but die of the original condition within 28 days and you’re still added to the covid deaths. That’s not true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy999 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 So her son returned from Phuket, the sand box safe haven for covid and passed it on to his grandmother, sums up the 8000 daily new infections BS perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadSpottedDog Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Interesting that this popped up. We just went through similar. My Mom is 80, in a care home, & in late stage Alzheimer's. She also has nodules on her lungs from childhood, which has always caused her issues. She has previously had severe reactions to vaccines, so I refused the covid vaccine for her. We got the call that she had covid a couple of weeks ago. They were preparing to give her Remdesivir. I refused that, but requested other meds, high dose vit C via IV, and other vitamins instead. She only had a fever for one day, and is now back to normal. I'm so sorry for this Thai woman & her family. I guess you just never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: The other option is to let everyone get infected before opening. Maybe another 5 - 10 years. Nonsense..... The omicron is highly contagious and would certainly reach a herd immunity level far more quickly than that. Just need to achieve it while still protecting those most vulnerable. 'Those most vulnerable' will also need to be protected from other endemic ailments.. I am not of a mind to chuck them under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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