PM Assigns ‘Anucha’ to Address Expensive Lottery Tickets

[snoop1130]

 

BANGKOK (NNT) - Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha has instructed officials to erect a committee to address the long-standing problem of expensive lottery tickets.

 

The committee will be headed by Minister Attached to the Prime Minister’s Office Anucha Nakasai. Dr. Seksakol Atthawong, Vice Minister Attached to the Prime Minister’s Office, will act as the deputy chairman of the committee.

 

Other members of the committee consist of officials from the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Interior, the Ministry of Justice, the Office of the Attorney General, the Anti-Money Laundering Office, and the Royal Thai Police, just to name some.

 

The committee is authorized to inspect the issue of high lottery ticket prices. Government lottery tickets should not be sold higher than 80 baht apiece. The committee is to propose solutions directly to the Prime Minister or the Cabinet.

 

The operating expenses of the committee will be reimbursed from the Government Lottery Office (GLO).

 

Currently, the price vendors buy from the GLO is 74 baht and 40 satang per ticket. However, several lottery vendors have been selling bundles of 5 tickets for 800 baht, 3 tickets for 500 baht, or even as high as 700 baht. Some of them sell a pair for 220. High on-demand tickets can go as high as 250 baht apiece.

 

-- © Copyright NNT 2022-01-17

 

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[HaoleBoy]

Pinocchio is addressing high priced lottery tickets AGAIN?

I thought he declared victory in fixing this problem back when he was top military in charge.

[digbeth]

isn't this the very first issue he tackled head on upon seizing power 7 years ago, 

and my understanding from the much publicized public visit to lottery vendors by uniformed police officers and news crew, there are no overpriced lottery, or any prostitutes in Pattaya either  

 

[sitanonchai]

Only the wind changes in Thailand, that sums it all up.

[overt2016]

Here we go AGAIN.

It's about time the tickets are sold online thereby cutting out the weasels, charging higher prices for a ticket.

 Have a look at Australia's weekly lotteries.

Tuesday's Draw is worth 30 million dollars [75 billion Baht].

A system 8 ticket [8 chances of winning] plus multiple smaller prizes costs 430 Baht.

 

[Willy Wombat]

Thailand , the hub of hot air.

 

All talk and no action

[Paul Henry]

The only ones winning are the vendors. The Government are like headless chooks. Run around can't see a thing and do nothing.

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

BANGKOK (NNT) - Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha has instructed officials to erect a committee to address the long-standing problem of expensive lottery tickets.

Again????

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Other members of the committee consist of officials from the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Interior, the Ministry of Justice, the Office of the Attorney General, the Anti-Money Laundering Office, and the Royal Thai Police, just to name some.

Or..

PM sends out a memo... WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT all tickets are 80 baht, end of story.

Anyone selling for more than that you will have your tickets removed, fined and unable to sell again.

Takes 5 minutes.

[mtls2005]

These issues must be entered into some "issue du jour" calendar?

 

If it's Tuesday, it must be time to issue the 'solve air quality issue within 30 days' edict.

 

 

 

 

[mtls2005]

4 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

PM sends out a memo... WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT all tickets are 80 baht, end of story.

Anyone selling for more than that you will have your tickets removed, fined and unable to sell again.

Takes 5 minutes.

 

Yeah but this is "government theatre" not real governing.

 

 

The pm doesn't want to solve the pricing issue, he wants it to appear as though he is "solving" the pricing issue.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by mtls2005

[JonnyF]

I used to think this was the only (good) thing he'd achieved in 7 years.

 

Seems like I was overrating him.

[oznomad]

22 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Or..

PM sends out a memo... WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT all tickets are 80 baht, end of story.

Anyone selling for more than that you will have your tickets removed, fined and unable to sell again.

Takes 5 minutes.

Hang on. Where was your committee, your lengthy liquid lunch meetings, your per diems?

Impossible to come up with a solution without those.

[klauskunkel]

Quote

PM Assigns ‘Anucha’ to Address Expensive Lottery Tickets

Anucha thinking frantically: "What did I do wrong???"

[mtls2005]

5 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

Anucha thinking frantically: "What did I do wrong???"

Maybe he forgot to make the bi-monthly "drop"?

 

 

[law ling]

So, if there's a million tickets printed per draw (yes, not all are sold), and if average mark up is B20 (yes, can be more), that's B20 million - every two weeks - into the hands of vendors (over and above their approved commission).

[mtls2005]

13 minutes ago, law ling said:

So, if there's a million tickets printed per draw (yes, not all are sold), and if average mark up is B20 (yes, can be more), that's B20 million - every two weeks - into the hands of vendors (over and above their approved commission).

 

Among the many, many, many issues, the fact that there were (still are but obfuscated) just a handful of wholesalers - the "GLO" sells in bulk to these, then the wholesalers take their cut, before selling (extending credit actually) to retailers. Some of whom then resell, again after a cut, to walkers. These franchises have been held tightly - they pay protection money to retain the rights, don't ask - and will not be given up without a fight. Digital Lottery? Yeah, maybe with thailand four hundred point Oh.

 

The whole endeavor is a rotting fish.

 

The underground lottery is not without its issues, but it might b more 'democratic"?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by mtls2005

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Yeah but this is "government theatre" not real governing.

 

 

The pm doesn't want to solve the pricing issue, he wants it to appear as though he is "solving" the pricing issue.

 

 

 

 

 

Bingo! You understand the Thai system. He has spoken, made his recommendations, and his job is done. Anything that happens later is not his responsibility. You, I, he and everyone else knows that what is said will be ignored and is unenforceable, but that is not the point. He has acted, done what he considers to be his job, while actually doing nothing. This happens all the time, at least once a week. Someone makes a declaration and the next day it's ignored and forgotten. But that person has done their job by 'acting'.

[Bangkok Barry]

A day or two ago I wrote that Thais have a remarkable ability to make even the most simple of tasks difficult. This is another example. Here is the simple, obvious and very easy way to prevent anyone being able to sell lottery tickets at illegal/inflated prices:

Tell the people not to buy from those sellers, only from those who charge the proper price.

 

How difficult is that! No-one forces anyone to pay over the top. Jeez!

[RandiRona]

So lotteries are good but Casinoes are not?? Lotteries impact poorest the most.

[mtls2005]

18 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Bingo! You understand the Thai system.

It has a bill, webbed feet, walks and quacks.

 

Not exactly Sherlockian? But thank you.

 

 

 

 

[khunjeff]

23 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

A day or two ago I wrote that Thais have a remarkable ability to make even the most simple of tasks difficult. This is another example. Here is the simple, obvious and very easy way to prevent anyone being able to sell lottery tickets at illegal/inflated prices:

Tell the people not to buy from those sellers, only from those who charge the proper price.

 

How difficult is that! No-one forces anyone to pay over the top. Jeez!

If you could choose your preferred number from any vendor, that would work. But in most cases you'll only find the number that the fortune teller or two-headed calf told you would be lucky at one stand, so when you find it you'll probably pay whatever they ask.

 

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Or..

PM sends out a memo... WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT all tickets are 80 baht, end of story.

Anyone selling for more than that you will have your tickets removed, fined and unable to sell again.

Takes 5 minutes.

That would definitely work, BUT...

 

- no one would like the optics of poor, handicapped vendors being stripped of their livelihoods, and

 

- that would require enforcement, which would require actual work.

[alien365]

I've only ever seen the tickets at 80 baht once, apart from that they are a minimum of 100 everywhere I go. Electronic and online sales are the only way this issue will ever be fixed. 

[Broken Record]

17 hours ago, digbeth said:

there are no overpriced lottery, or any prostitutes in Pattaya either  

 

And no sex tourists that travel 1000's of Kms because they can't get laid in their own countries, I don't say all tourists, but many do, I see them in the coffee shop, old washed up cretins boasting and back slapping each other.

Many Americans are really loud, not all, but many are, they can really pi'ss people off with their boasting how this girl, younger than their grand children, is really into them. 5555

 

It's a pitiful sight and a verbal assault of the ears.

 

My mate was in the Coffee shop with his wife and Kids, he went over to a table of 4 old men and told them to keep it down, to their credit they did, but only because they were intimidated, not because they had any social graces.

 

Obviously not ThaiVisa members !

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Broken Record

[mtls2005]

2 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

And no sex tourists that travel 1000's of Kms because they can't get laid in their own countries, I don't say all tourists, but many do, I see them in the coffee shop, old washed up cretins boasting and back slapping each other.

Many Americans are really loud, not all, but many are, they can really pi'ss people off with their boasting how this girl, younger than their grand children, is really into them. 5555

Awesome diatribe. Related to the lottery how exactly?

 

Wrong thread maybe?

 

Keep grinding that axe.

 

 

[Almer]

Dear PM, I have lived in Thailand and buy lottery tickets every draw for 8 years, never have I paid anything other than 100 baht a ticket, forget the committee come with me any day any place any time and I will show you.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Almer
Spell

[Broken Record]

15 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Awesome diatribe.

Cheers.

[Burma Bill]

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The committee will be headed by..............

 

"We've had a meeting of the committeeeee" 

Wheel Tappers & Shunters Club (UK comedy)

 

https://www.pharman.co.uk/blog/weve-had-a-meeting-of-the-committee/

Edited January 18, 2022 by Burma Bill
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[Orinoco]

His full of it.

TIT.

[connda]

Buy a few hours before the end of Lottery period.  You can get them for 80 THB.

Why can't they enforce 80 THB tickets?
There is obviously no enforcement mechanism - in other words - there is no will to change and actually enforce the law.