1 minute ago, lujanit said:

It is not a cold which is a rhinovirus.  Covid is a coronovirus.  Very different beasts.

The majority of normal colds are rhinovirus yes but around 20% are also coronavirus

 

Cold viruses have a lot in common, but each type has its own style, too.

 

Rhinovirus. This bunch is most active in early fall, spring, and summer. They cause 10%-40% of colds. You'll feel plenty miserable when you catch one, but the good news is they rarely make you seriously sick.

 

Coronavirus. These tend to do their dirty work in the winter and early spring. The coronavirus is the cause of about 20% of colds. There are more than 30 kinds, but only three or four affect people.

 

RSV and parainfluenza. These viruses cause 20% of colds. They sometimes lead to severe infections, like pneumonia, in young children.

 

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes

 

Its is also suggested that those who have suffered from a coronavirus cold can also have some immunity against covid-19

Ahhh we are thinking time for Thailand to join the real world, then we see the phrase..

"Strict Preventative Measures"

And realise nothing is going to change ????????

this is coming from a man who still has a mask mandate outside. absolutely ridiculous. that isnt normal. if you dropped all restrictions including the ridiculous wearing masks outside. maybe the thai public might start to relax about it (doubt it tho) all the time you keep silly restrictions in, you are keeping the fear factor going for the already sacred thai public.  this is your own doing. you reap what you sow 

6 minutes ago, paulikens said:

this is coming from a man who still has a mask mandate outside. absolutely ridiculous. that isnt normal. if you dropped all restrictions including the ridiculous wearing masks outside. maybe the thai public might start to relax about it (doubt it tho) all the time you keep silly restrictions in, you are keeping the fear factor going for the already sacred thai public.  this is your own doing. you reap what you sow 

Agree with you and this is exactly what he wants. Keep the public fearful and then they will more readily accept the onerous and stupid ongoing restrictions.

Stop testing!  That will solve the problem! 

They still have a few scams up their sleeve.  The next few months will be spent on polishing these, and then we will be told that this is the "new normal"

I live in a cold dark country in Scandinavia and we have dropped all restrictions a week ago.

 

You know what?

 

I prefer to stay here in this cold climate and live with no restrictions like a free human being, compared to traveling to Thailand and deal with all the restrictions.

 

I'm triple vaxed with Pfizer btw and are positive for restrictions, but only when it's needed, but omicron changed the game plan.

 

I look forward to visiting Thailand again once ALL restrictions are lifted.

Until then my money are spent elsewhere, and i spent quite a large amount of money in Thailand.

12 trips in 9 years and I'm no cheap Charlie when i travel, and i hope i will be making another 12 trips the next 9 years.

 

See you when all restrictions are dropped 

 

As our former UK prime minister said recently, we're gonna have to start living with COVID, we can't go on forking out £400 billion to lock down the country. Especially now that the majority of the population is vaccinated.

Covid-19 is a viral infection that has a higher risk for death than the flu, and a far higher risk of death than a cold. Death happening or not is a big issue, but not the only issue. The infectiousness runs the risk of overwhelming the hospitals and health care systems - which then block access needed by people suffering all the other major maladies of traffic accidents, heart attacks, and the full assortment of diseases the hospitals normally treat.
Lastly, some 30% of those who survive the infection still have symptoms for months longer. The worst cases have permanent damage such as scaring of lung or heart tissue. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351  The virus may also have some of the ongoing nastiness of Herpes, HIV and Chickenpox (which comes back as shingles.)
For these many reasons, Covid-19 needs to be taken seriously with precautions to avoid its spread. Precautions include wearing masks, social distancing, avoiding crowds, and getting vaccinated/ boosted.

The Guardian published an interactive graphic recently that shows how some anti-vaxers abuse statistics.
See The simple numbers every government should use to fight anti-vaccine misinformation | Australia news | The Guardian
I like it because they also updated what the survival rates were in NSW for vaccinated vs unvaccinated by age group.

If looking through another site is too much, I spotted this composite image of the data presented by The Guardian.

Thailand has done well in getting much of its population vaccinated, especially after the rough start through mid-2021. Vaccinations, mask wearing and some aspects of rural people getting sunlight and fresh air have helped reduce the incidence of serious illness in Thailand vs many other nations.
For all of the above good results, pandemic weariness is here. The desire to stop wearing masks and to socialize risks again spreading the disease exponentially to the millions in Thailand who are not yet fully vaccinated, still making calls for a reopening of the nation a risky option.
February began the vaccination of children ages 5-11. It will take at least 2 months, likely 3 months to give two jabs to this age group, reducing much of the opportunity for spread that way, even as older citizens complete their series of vaccinations. The transition to reopening the society has begun, but it needs be a cautious and staged transition.

Howdy Doody is back with the same stuff, live with it!  then instead of slow and easing just open up with no restrictions because your own people don't even have a clue or understanding as to what they are and how to apply them. The more cream you lay on the cake the more it taste like <deleted> keep it simple OPEN COME ONE COME ALL!????

12 minutes ago, RPCVguy said:

Covid-19 is a viral infection that has a higher risk for death than the flu, and a far higher risk of death than a cold. Death happening or not is a big issue, but not the only issue. The infectiousness runs the risk of overwhelming the hospitals and health care systems - which then block access needed by people suffering all the other major maladies of traffic accidents, heart attacks, and the full assortment of diseases the hospitals normally treat.
Lastly, some 30% of those who survive the infection still have symptoms for months longer. The worst cases have permanent damage such as scaring of lung or heart tissue. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351  The virus may also have some of the ongoing nastiness of Herpes, HIV and Chickenpox (which comes back as shingles.)
For these many reasons, Covid-19 needs to be taken seriously with precautions to avoid its spread. Precautions include wearing masks, social distancing, avoiding crowds, and getting vaccinated/ boosted.

The Guardian published an interactive graphic recently that shows how some anti-vaxers abuse statistics.
See The simple numbers every government should use to fight anti-vaccine misinformation | Australia news | The Guardian
I like it because they also updated what the survival rates were in NSW for vaccinated vs unvaccinated by age group.

If looking through another site is too much, I spotted this composite image of the data presented by The Guardian.

Thailand has done well in getting much of its population vaccinated, especially after the rough start through mid-2021. Vaccinations, mask wearing and some aspects of rural people getting sunlight and fresh air have helped reduce the incidence of serious illness in Thailand vs many other nations.
For all of the above good results, pandemic weariness is here. The desire to stop wearing masks and to socialize risks again spreading the disease exponentially to the millions in Thailand who are not yet fully vaccinated, still making calls for a reopening of the nation a risky option.
February began the vaccination of children ages 5-11. It will take at least 2 months, likely 3 months to give two jabs to this age group, reducing much of the opportunity for spread that way, even as older citizens complete their series of vaccinations. The transition to reopening the society has begun, but it needs be a cautious and staged transition.

Hmmmm.   The new dominant strain is said to be not that dangerous....like a common cold....if you are vaccinated. 

 

Everyone get vaxed and let's get back to normal please.  

 

If some people still worry about getting I'll after they are vaxed then they should just keep wearing a mask and take their own precautions.  Personal responsibility. 

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-O’Cha urged the public to understand a new way of living safely with the Covid-19

When we have understood it, we will let you know, as you clearly don't understand naff all.

Latest stats show if you are double vaxxed, you have a VERY low risk of hospitalization/death. The booster hasn't shown to make much difference. It's time to ditch the paranoid money grab. Open the borders to those double vaxxed and for those who worry or are immunocompromised, continue social distancing/masking up.

52 minutes ago, connda said:

Stop testing!  That will solve the problem! 

What testing ????

4 hours ago, Inala said:

Ahh, the good old days are nearly here!

I certainly hope so as I need to bust a nut desperately ????

 

1 hour ago, lujanit said:

It is not a cold which is a rhinovirus.  Covid is a coronovirus.  Very different beasts.

I had it, and it was at best mild flu! So not such a "different beast"...... Had worse hangovers ????

1 minute ago, dogfish180 said:

I had it, and it was at best mild flu! So not such a "different beast"...... Had worse hangovers ????

And millions have died from it. You are not the standard for Covid reaction.

I reckon Prayut is just keeping this card up his sleeve until the next election at the end of this year.

 

Him and his massively-unpopular "government" can then be the saviours of the nation by dropping all Covid restrictions and giving 'happiness back to the people', before the vote.

"Never let a good crisis go to waste" - Churchill.

 

You want people to behave normally and start living normally again? Then why don't you stop with the fear tactics? Why don't you legalize protests again? Why don't you bring back tourism without the dumb restrictions, so people can get back to work? 

 

The level of this man's hypocrisy and insincerity is something to behold. Does anyone buy his nonsense anymore? 

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

You want people to behave normally and start living normally again? Then why don't you stop with the fear tactics? Why don't you legalize protests again? Why don't you bring back tourism without the dumb restrictions, so people can get back to work? 

 

The level of this man's hypocrisy and insincerity is something to behold. Does anyone buy his nonsense anymore? 

Unfortunately you have a small faction of the Thai population that hangs on his every word. 

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

You want people to behave normally and start living normally again? Then why don't you stop with the fear tactics? Why don't you legalize protests again? Why don't you bring back tourism without the dumb restrictions, so people can get back to work? 

 

The level of this man's hypocrisy and insincerity is something to behold. Does anyone buy his nonsense anymore? 

And all 77 provinces suffering from lack of tourists.Down 70%.Even domestic travel in the bottom.

This goverment is slowly killing the thai people.

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

And millions have died from it. You are not the standard for Covid reaction.

I believe that should read millions dying over the ages of 80 years of age, with comorbidities, and not being vaccinated, according to the Office of National Statistics.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/deaths

 

6 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

He probably doesn't understand the fear Farang have of taking a covid test that may easily result in being frog marched off to a prison/hospital that'll cost  upwards of nearly two years salary of the average Thai.  

Well said - I know of  a couple of people that that has happened to, but fortunately they were covered by insurance. The hospital that they were carried off to, that I can not name because of defamation laws wanted to charge one tourist 19,000 baht for ONE stitch in a cut finger, so what they charged for a 2 week stay would probably pay for 2 Thais wages for a year! 

6 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

He probably doesn't understand the fear Farang have of taking a covid test that may easily result in being frog marched off to a prison/hospital that'll cost  upwards of nearly two years salary of the average Thai.  

If I get C19 and it isn't my fault they can take me to the hospital , Paying No

They can send me back home they're Not getting my Passport and or Visa Card in the hospital. I had 3 Jabs so there's no need to go to the hospital .

A good start would be to stop all the charades.  Like the ridiculous masks...

He’s going soft a bit. Urges? What happened to Orderes?

2 hours ago, BayArea said:

Unfortunately you have a small faction of the Thai population that hangs on his every word. 

At this time, likely no more than 2%. I know one woman who supports him. Nobody else. My wife's family has some government workers and they hate him too. Nobody else I know or speak with likes him. He is widely ridiculed and despised. 

4 hours ago, mickyr55 said:

Ahhh we are thinking time for Thailand to join the real world, then we see the phrase..

"Strict Preventative Measures"

And realise nothing is going to change ????????

Real world....?

I see many people entering department stores and supermarkets not bothering to check their temperature, sanitize their hands or enter their phone details.  Our local Tesco's has three entrances , none are manned. Often the bottle of sanitizer is empty and nobody asks for it to be refilled. 

7 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

I totally agree.

As to "why is Thailand still restricting" ? I imagine it is the only way left to keep his unelected leadership, and to stop the populace showing their hatred towards him via mass demonstrations, illegal under the draconian "emergency decree", 

It’s all POWER