Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[jvs]

8 minutes ago, Black Ops said:

 

Great news but some people will still not accept this even

though the russians came with this number.

At some point soon i hope they will all run home.

[BarraMarra]

What i can't understand is why Russia is still allowed on the Security Council or whatever there allowed to stay at the UN table that idiot keeps denying everything including refusing to Acknowledge their troops are raping, looting, and committing war crimes just kick them out of the building. Other news Kamikaze drones supplied by Iran are causing death and destruction in Ukraine, this is a sighn of weakness because Putins thugs are being sent packing so like Hitler with the V1s and V2s in WW2 Putin is using the same Tactic.

[bannork]

A dearth of teachers 

 

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/10/12/entire-subjects-are-being-cut

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

48 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

What i can't understand is why Russia is still allowed on the Security Council or whatever there allowed to stay at the UN table that idiot keeps denying everything including refusing to Acknowledge their troops are raping, looting, and committing war crimes just kick them out of the building. Other news Kamikaze drones supplied by Iran are causing death and destruction in Ukraine, this is a sighn of weakness because Putins thugs are being sent packing so like Hitler with the V1s and V2s in WW2 Putin is using the same Tactic.

Founding member of the UN, and anyway it's a talk shop for a lot of fairly unpleasant countries. Are you suggesting evicting any country that doesn't measure up to your requirements?

[LosLobo]

24 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Founding member of the UN, and anyway it's a talk shop for a lot of fairly unpleasant countries. Are you suggesting evicting any country that doesn't measure up to your requirements?

Are you suggesting that Russia was a founding member of the UN?

 

If so, please provide some supporting evidence!

[thaibeachlovers]

14 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Are you suggesting that Russia was a founding member of the UN?

 

If so, please provide some supporting evidence!

Seriously? LOL.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council

 

Following the 1943 Moscow Conference and Tehran Conference, in mid-1944, the delegations from the Allied "Big Four", the Soviet Union, the UK, the US and the Republic of China, met for the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in Washington, D.C. to negotiate the UN's structure,[18] and the composition of the UN Security Council quickly became the dominant issue. France, the Republic of China, the Soviet Union, the UK and US were selected as permanent members of the Security Council;

[Bkk Brian]

The US, Germany, France and the UK, all going to provide more advanced air defense systems to Ukraine, maybe other countries to that I've not read about. Another shot in the foot for Putin.

 

Ukraine will be the most heavily protected air defense nation in the world...

[LosLobo]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seriously? LOL.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council

 

Following the 1943 Moscow Conference and Tehran Conference, in mid-1944, the delegations from the Allied "Big Four", the Soviet Union, the UK, the US and the Republic of China, met for the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in Washington, D.C. to negotiate the UN's structure,[18] and the composition of the UN Security Council quickly became the dominant issue. France, the Republic of China, the Soviet Union, the UK and US were selected as permanent members of the Security Council;

So, the "Soviet Union" was a founding member of the UN Security Council!

From what I can see, you have not provided any evidence that "Russia was a founding member of the UN".
 

 

 

 

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

So, the "Soviet Union" was a founding member of the UN Security Council!

From what I can see, you have not provided any evidence that "Russia was a founding member of the UN".
 

 

 

 

not Russia and not China are officially members of the UN as they never applied under their "new" name unfortunately the UN "politics" are afraid to ask them to correct it, for me UN is outdated and irrelevant to the current world standings/situations

Edited October 13, 2022 by Mavideol

[Bkk Brian]

The offense still on course:

 

#BREAKING Moscow-installed head of Ukraine's Kherson region asks Russia to evacuate locals

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1580530037421244416

 

[Bkk Brian]

Drone dog fight, Ukraine wins.....????

 

 

[Social Media]

 

[Bkk Brian]

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe adopted a resolution calling the Russian Federation a "terrorist regime".

 

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1580529438844137478

 

99 member countries in favour & only 1 abstention

 

https://twitter.com/PACE_News

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/13/7371797/

 

Edited October 13, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The offense still on course:

 

#BREAKING Moscow-installed head of Ukraine's Kherson region asks Russia to evacuate locals

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1580530037421244416

 

Also confirmed by BBC

 

Russian-installed Kherson governor tells residents to evacuate

Vladimir Saldo, the Russian-installed governor of southern Ukraine's Kherson region, has asked residents to evacuate as fighting between Russian and advancing Ukrainian forces nears, Reuters reports.

Saldo also publicly asked for assistance from Moscow on Telegram with transporting civilians to Russia.

Kherson is one of four areas where Moscow-installed officials held so-called referendums last month to claim support for annexation. The votes have been denounced as a sham by Ukraine's government and its allies.

 

[BarraMarra]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Founding member of the UN, and anyway it's a talk shop for a lot of fairly unpleasant countries. Are you suggesting evicting any country that doesn't measure up to your requirements?

No just a member that is murdering and Raping, after stealing land in another Country. ThaiBeach, Oh and lying to your fellow members. Would sit round a Table and have Tea and Biscuits with this member?

[BarraMarra]

Putin is still blaming Ukraine and saying the damage to the bridge was an act of Terrorism. So what are you committing Putin when you are targeting civilians and infrastructure? even if it was Ukraine behind the attack it was a legitimate target as it is being used for materials being used against UKRAINE.

[JerseytoBKK]

9 hours ago, Mavideol said:

not Russia and not China are officially members of the UN as they never applied under their "new" name unfortunately the UN "politics" are afraid to ask them to correct it, for me UN is outdated and irrelevant to the current world standings/situations

A good example of UN "politics" is the fact that Russia, China and Cuba are members of the UN Human Rights Council and members are elected by the UN General Assembly.

 

"The Human Rights Council is an inter-governmental body within the United Nations system responsible for strengthening the promotion and protection of human rights around the globe and for addressing situations of human rights violations"

 

 

[tgw]

1 hour ago, JerseytoBKK said:

A good example of UN "politics" is the fact that Russia, China and Cuba are members of the UN Human Rights Council and members are elected by the UN General Assembly.

 

"The Human Rights Council is an inter-governmental body within the United Nations system responsible for strengthening the promotion and protection of human rights around the globe and for addressing situations of human rights violations"

and until recently it was even presided by Saudi Arabia.

[Social Media]

 

[Bkk Brian]

NATO to hold nuclear exercise despite Russian warnings

BRUSSELS (AP) — NATO will push ahead with long-planned nuclear exercises next week despite rising tensions over the war in Ukraine and President Vladimir Putin’s insistence that he is not bluffing about using all available means to defend Russian territory, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Tuesday.

The exercise, dubbed “Steadfast Noon,” is held annually and usually runs for about one week. It involves fighter jets capable of carrying nuclear warheads but does not involve any live bombs.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-nato-jens-stoltenberg-b922486609ba5cf10ad23bbabc0c9b9f

 

EU foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell said that the people supporting Ukraine, the EU, its member states, the U.S., and NATO are “not bluffing” when speaking about the response in case Russia uses nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

Edited October 14, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, LosLobo said:

So, the "Soviet Union" was a founding member of the UN Security Council!

From what I can see, you have not provided any evidence that "Russia was a founding member of the UN".
 

 

 

 

Pedantic or stirring?

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Pedantic or stirring?

No fact and actually it could well have been Ukraine:

 

Other outcomes were possible. As of December 1991, although nobody pursued the possibility at the time: two UN Members besides Russia were also, in principle, suitable to fill the USSR Security Council seat. Ukraine and Belarus had both been Union Republics of the USSR — and both were also “original Members” of the UN, i.e., founding member states.

https://cepa.org/article/expelling-russia-from-the-un-security-council-a-how-to-guide/

 

Helsinki Commission Recommends Kicking Russia Off U.N. Security Council

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/13/helsinki-commission-recommends-kicking-russia-off-u-n-security-council/

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9 hours ago, JerseytoBKK said:

A good example of UN "politics" is the fact that Russia, China and Cuba are members of the UN Human Rights Council and members are elected by the UN General Assembly.

 

"The Human Rights Council is an inter-governmental body within the United Nations system responsible for strengthening the promotion and protection of human rights around the globe and for addressing situations of human rights violations"

 

 

Actually, the Russian Federation's membership was terminated in April in response to the invasion of Ukraine.

[Bkk Brian]

"Western military officials estimate Ukraine could take Kherson up to the Dnipro as soon as next week."

https://www.ft.com/content/79ee35bf-08ca-4b58-aa29-fa02825e6585

 

My only concern with this being the evacuations that they are doing in Kherson and the real possibility that they will kidnap more civilians and children to take them to Russian controlled areas or Russia.

 

How Moscow Grabs Ukraine kids and makes them Russians

Russia’s open effort to adopt Ukrainian children and bring them up as Russian is already well underway, in one of the most explosive issues of the war, an Associated Press investigation shows.

Thousands of children have been found in the basements of war-torn cities like Mariupol and at orphanages in the Russian-backed separatist territories of Donbas. They include those whose parents were killed by Russian shelling as well as others in institutions or with foster families, known as “children of the state.”

https://apnews.com/article/ukrainian-children-russia-7493cb22c9086c6293c1ac7986d85ef6

[LosLobo]

56 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Pedantic or stirring?

Perhaps the fact that the Soviet Union is not the same as the Russian Federation is lost on you.

 

The USSR was comprised of 15 different countries, fourteen of these are not part of the Russian Federation.

 

The UN and the UN Security Council are two different entities.

 

I would suggest your post was highly inaccurate and less than a half-truth at best.

 

Maybe, checking your posts against a reliable source or even better still posting the correct evidence with the OP would be beneficial to others on the forum.

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by LosLobo

[GroveHillWanderer]

56 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Pedantic or stirring?

No, just factual. The Soviet Union and Russia are two different things. Equating them is like saying for instance, that Croatia is the same thing as Yugoslavia - or that Bangladesh is the same thing as Pakistan.

 

Just because a country was once part of a bigger entity, does not mean each component of the dissolved country is equivalent to the former whole.

Edited October 14, 2022 by GroveHillWanderer

[bannork]

Send your son to die.

[Mavideol]

11 hours ago, JerseytoBKK said:

A good example of UN "politics" is the fact that Russia, China and Cuba are members of the UN Human Rights Council and members are elected by the UN General Assembly.

 

"The Human Rights Council is an inter-governmental body within the United Nations system responsible for strengthening the promotion and protection of human rights around the globe and for addressing situations of human rights violations"

 

 

as I said, for me the UN is outdated and irrelevant in it's current layout, dissolve and re-create & update UN to current world standings, we are no longer in 1945, many things have changed, many new countries, regions, Africa and South America should have members in the security council, veto powers should be removed and allow for the majority vote to accept/pass any recommendations/resolutions

[candide]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Send your son to die.

Maybe it will wake the Russians up. They did not really care as long as it was Ukrainians dying, or soldiers from Dagestan. When white Russians start to die in significant numbers  that may be another story.

[LosLobo]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

"Western military officials estimate Ukraine could take Kherson up to the Dnipro as soon as next week."

https://www.ft.com/content/79ee35bf-08ca-4b58-aa29-fa02825e6585

 

My only concern with this being the evacuations that they are doing in Kherson and the real possibility that they will kidnap more civilians and children to take them to Russian controlled areas or Russia.

 

How Moscow Grabs Ukraine kids and makes them Russians

Russia’s open effort to adopt Ukrainian children and bring them up as Russian is already well underway, in one of the most explosive issues of the war, an Associated Press investigation shows.

Thousands of children have been found in the basements of war-torn cities like Mariupol and at orphanages in the Russian-backed separatist territories of Donbas. They include those whose parents were killed by Russian shelling as well as others in institutions or with foster families, known as “children of the state.”

https://apnews.com/article/ukrainian-children-russia-7493cb22c9086c6293c1ac7986d85ef6

The Russian claim that they are de-nazifying Ukraine is both extremely paradoxical and hypocritical.

 

Their stealing of children, besides Putin's propaganda, terror bombing tactics and genocide is another scheme straight out of Hitler's Nazi playbook.

 

Hitler stolen hundreds of thousands of Germanic-looking children from captured countries to raise as Nazis for his Aryan Race Lebensborn program.

 

Stolen Children - The Kidnapping Campaign of Nazi Germany | DocFilm | DW | 28.04.2020

Edited October 14, 2022 by LosLobo