Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[rudi49jr]

Kidnapped Ukrainian kids are being sent to sinister "re-education camps" by Putin's evil child snatchers in a bid to turn them into "Russian zombies", according to a report.

Children inside the camps are said to have been put through the process of "information zombification" to rid them of their Ukrainian heritage and make them "pro-Russian."

 

https://www.the-sun.com/news/7557496/child-snatchers-ukraine-kids-russia-zombies-camps/?utm_campaign=native_share&utm_source=sharebar_native&utm_medium=sharebar_native

[Rimmer]

Russia fires hypersonic missiles in new barrage

 

 

At least nine people have died in a new wave of strikes across Ukraine in which Russia used powerful weapons, including rare hypersonic missiles.

Russia had reportedly not fired Kinzhal hypersonic missiles - which can evade air defences - since the early months of the conflict.

The latest barrage was the most severe to hit Ukraine for weeks.

It cut power to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant - Europe's biggest - although it was later restored.

See more:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64903202

 

[thaibeachlovers]

The Ukranians have no defense against hypersonic missiles, according to Al Jazeera- they just go too fast.

 

The latest attack has demonstrated that nowhere in Ukraine is immune to Russian missile strikes.

 

The latest US budget negotiations will be interesting if the GOP decide that US $ are better spent in the US than in Ukraine.

[heybruce]

18 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The Ukranians have no defense against hypersonic missiles, according to Al Jazeera- they just go too fast.

 

The latest attack has demonstrated that nowhere in Ukraine is immune to Russian missile strikes.

 

The latest US budget negotiations will be interesting if the GOP decide that US $ are better spent in the US than in Ukraine.

No problem.  Russia rarely uses them because they aren't that accurate and Russia doesn't have many. 

[bannork]

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

No problem.  Russia rarely uses them because they aren't that accurate and Russia doesn't have many. 

Only 24 according to the news today.

[rudi49jr]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

Only 24 according to the news today.

Putin wasted precious (and very expensive) missiles likely just for Russian state propaganda purposes. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The Ukranians have no defense against hypersonic missiles, according to Al Jazeera- they just go too fast.

 

The latest attack has demonstrated that nowhere in Ukraine is immune to Russian missile strikes.

 

The latest US budget negotiations will be interesting if the GOP decide that US $ are better spent in the US than in Ukraine.

I don't think any country currently has a defense against hypersonic missiles.

[Hawaiian]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

I don't think any country currently has a defense against hypersonic missiles.

The only defense that I know of is to destroy their launch sites.

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38 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

The only defense that I know of is to destroy their launch sites.

Actually, the Russian hypersonic missiles are being launched from aircraft. That's a lot of launch sites.

[CatCage]

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually, the Russian hypersonic missiles are being launched from aircraft. That's a lot of launch sites.

 

Correct and launched from aircraft deep inside Russia so even if they had F16s to take down the launch aircraft they are not allowed to go there as it might upset them even more. 

 

That is one heck of an advantage and sounds rather like trying to fight with one arm tied behind the back to me.

[bannork]

General Winter has failed Russia 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64899045

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, CatCage said:

 

Correct and launched from aircraft deep inside Russia so even if they had F16s to take down the launch aircraft they are not allowed to go there as it might upset them even more. 

 

That is one heck of an advantage and sounds rather like trying to fight with one arm tied behind the back to me.

In the Korean Conflict the U.S. and U.N. forces were not allowed to cross the Yalu River for fear of an escalation with the Red Chinese, although the Chinese continued to send wave after wave of troops.

Viet Nam, same thing......Hanoi was off limits.  Iraq and Afghanistan was again more ridiculous rules.  War is hell.  Why start one if you have no intentions of winning.  However, Ukraine was invaded by Russia and the U.S. and its allies have been intimidated by Putin's threat of nuclear weapons. 

Ukraine's supporters are between a rock and a hard place as Russia continues their onslaught on the Ukrainian people and the destruction of their cities and infrastructure. 

What happens next will be very interesting.

 

 

 

[Social Media]

Vladimir Putin continues to suffer “extremely heavy casualties” in Ukraine, though the impact of those losses varies “dramatically” across Russia’s regions, according to UK intelligence.

“In proportion to the size of their population, the richest cities of Moscow and St Petersburg have been left relatively unscathed,” the Ministry of Defence said in its daily update.

 

“This is especially true for the families of the country’s elite,” it adds.

“In many of the Eastern regions, deaths are likely running, as a percentage of population, at a rate 30+ times higher than in Moscow.”

[Tug]

On 3/9/2023 at 8:53 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

The Ukranians have no defense against hypersonic missiles, according to Al Jazeera- they just go too fast.

 

The latest attack has demonstrated that nowhere in Ukraine is immune to Russian missile strikes.

 

The latest US budget negotiations will be interesting if the GOP decide that US $ are better spent in the US than in Ukraine.

No body does hope that makes you happy don’t worry the United States will continue to support Ukraine as will all the free nations of Europe slava Ukraine ???????? evict the invaders make the criminals pay!

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9 hours ago, Social Media said:

Vladimir Putin continues to suffer “extremely heavy casualties” in Ukraine, though the impact of those losses varies “dramatically” across Russia’s regions, according to UK intelligence.

“In proportion to the size of their population, the richest cities of Moscow and St Petersburg have been left relatively unscathed,” the Ministry of Defence said in its daily update.

 

“This is especially true for the families of the country’s elite,” it adds.

“In many of the Eastern regions, deaths are likely running, as a percentage of population, at a rate 30+ times higher than in Moscow.”

I wonder if those regions are going to start actual rebellions against this particular injustice.

[rudi49jr]

Russian economy collapsing. Sanctions seem to be working after all.
 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/11/2023 at 7:59 PM, Hawaiian said:

Ukraine's supporters are between a rock and a hard place as Russia continues their onslaught on the Ukrainian people and the destruction of their cities and infrastructure. 

What happens next will be very interesting.

 

Agree 100%.

IMO the only certainty if the war continues is that lots more Ukrainians will die and more destruction will occur.

The west, IMO, is carrying out a war against Russia using Ukrainian bodies, which is intolerable to me.

Either go all in and risk WW3, or stop interfering and force Ukraine to the negotiating table, IMO.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/11/2023 at 12:15 AM, rudi49jr said:

Putin wasted precious (and very expensive) missiles likely just for Russian state propaganda purposes. 

 

 

Propaganda is as important in a war as soldiers, IMO. If the population lose the will to support it, likely their side will fail.

There are examples in WW2 of actions carried out simply to bolster public support.

[heybruce]

31 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree 100%.

IMO the only certainty if the war continues is that lots more Ukrainians will die and more destruction will occur.

The west, IMO, is carrying out a war against Russia using Ukrainian bodies, which is intolerable to me.

Either go all in and risk WW3, or stop interfering and force Ukraine to the negotiating table, IMO.

"The west, IMO, is carrying out a war against Russia using Ukrainian bodies, which is intolerable to me."

 

Don't worry, when Ukraine stops asking for military assistance from the west I'm sure the west will stop providing it.

 

"Either go all in and risk WW3, or stop interfering and force Ukraine to the negotiating table, IMO."

 

Why do either?  The current approach is keeping Russia from invading other countries, showing the rest of the world the benefits of having western allies when they are faced with aggressive neighbors, and giving the countries that want to build empires at their neighbor's expense something to think about.

[bannork]

Extraordinary delusions emitting from RT. 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree 100%.

IMO the only certainty if the war continues is that lots more Ukrainians will die and more destruction will occur.

The west, IMO, is carrying out a war against Russia using Ukrainian bodies, which is intolerable to me.

Either go all in and risk WW3, or stop interfering and force Ukraine to the negotiating table, IMO.

"The west, IMO, is carrying out a war against Russia using Ukrainian bodies,"

 

Russian propaganda channels started with ratcheting up the risk of WW111, and Nuclear war, they spread it far and wide as a deterrent to stop the West helping Ukraine so it could carry on with its quest of invading a sovereign nation. It didn't work. The latest propaganda drive that I've seen from Russian Embassy tweets and apologists is the exact same one you're using above. 

 

Why does that not surprise me. 

[kwonitoy]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The west, IMO, is carrying out a war against Russia using Ukrainian bodies, which is intolerable to me.

Well, I'm sure the relevant leaders in the west will get your sternly worded message and act accordingly

[Phoenix Rising]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree 100%.

IMO the only certainty if the war continues is that lots more Ukrainians will die and more destruction will occur.

The west, IMO, is carrying out a war against Russia using Ukrainian bodies, which is intolerable to me.

Either go all in and risk WW3, or stop interfering and force Ukraine to the negotiating table, IMO.

Or we could continue as we're doing now because both WW3 and Putin conquering Ukraine is intolerable not only to Ukrainians but to the vast majority of Westerners.

But it's duly noted that you waste no opportunity to 'pop' - post for putin.

 

[tgw]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The west, IMO, is carrying out a war against Russia using Ukrainian bodies, which is intolerable to me.

Either go all in and risk WW3, or stop interfering and force Ukraine to the negotiating table, IMO.

and Russia attacking Ukraine is more tolerable to you ?
serious question.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

Well, I'm sure the relevant leaders in the west will get your sternly worded message and act accordingly

Seems you are OK with continuing the war with the consequences of that. Am I wrong?

[Social Media]

It comes as a horrifying video shows the moment flesh-melting 'thermite rain' bombs descended on a town in eastern Ukraine, as Vladimir Putin's forces continue to employ brutal tactics to cling on to meagre gains.

[rudi49jr]

31 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems you are OK with continuing the war with the consequences of that. Am I wrong?

Dude, will you stop with that? There is no get out of jail free card here. There is no alternative. If you start negotiating with Russia, you will show them that it pays to be a bully. And then next year they will want the rest of Ukraine. And the year after that they will want to push back the Polish border, or go after the Baltics. An so on and so forth. So please stop pushing that myth that a negotiated peace is the only way out.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/10/2023 at 2:26 AM, rudi49jr said:

More dissent among Russian troops:
 

“A group of Russian troops sent to Ukraine to fight for the Kremlin’s “new” territory is threatening to raise absolute hell over what they describe as pointless suicide missions—and they’ve made clear they’re willing to turn their weapons on members of their own team if necessary.”

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldiers-filmed-threatening-to-turn-weapons-on-commanders-in-ukraine

 

Hope lots more will follow this example and tell their commanders to go **** themselves.

No army tolerates mutineers.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Dude, will you stop with that? There is no get out of jail free card here. There is no alternative. If you start negotiating with Russia, you will show them that it pays to be a bully. And then next year they will want the rest of Ukraine. And the year after that they will want to push back the Polish border, or go after the Baltics. An so on and so forth. So please stop pushing that myth that a negotiated peace is the only way out.

Short of unconditional surrender all wars end in negotiations.

[rudi49jr]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Propaganda is as important in a war as soldiers, IMO. If the population lose the will to support it, likely their side will fail.

There are examples in WW2 of actions carried out simply to bolster public support.

So Putin scored a few brownie points with his own population, big whoop. How long will it take for them to forget that? All I wanted to point out was how stupid it was to waste about half their stock of precious missiles on useless targets.