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8 hours ago, CygnusX1 said:

Agree. Russians I’ve met on Jomtien beach have been gracious people, happy to try out their limited English. I’ve even been given food by Russians who probably have way less money than I do. Not their fault that their leader’s an evil psychopath.

Russians are not supposed to have contact with non Russians 

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On 3/8/2022 at 5:42 AM, steven100 said:

These stranded [Russians] should tell their embassy in BKK to call Putin's rich Oligarch's .....and have them bring their  $200Million dollar yachts over and pick them up on the beach.  

 

 

I think the oligarchs fit just the profile that the Thai government is looking for. Wealthy, foreigners. No names, no pack drill.

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7 hours ago, JoePai said:

So any reason they do not charter planes to evacuate their nationals ?

If your Russian get in touch with your Embassy,and ask them,if your not,then why bother?

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One way to fix this is to let them open u bank accounts tied to UnionPay such as Bangkok bank. They can then transfer money from Russia to their account here. Problem solved. 

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46 minutes ago, eastlight said:

Russians are not supposed to have contact with non Russians 

Never realised that I was getting myself into James Bond territory. I’ve actually been approached by so many Russians on Jomtien beach over the years that I had to learn the Russian for “I’m sorry, I don’t speak Russian!”

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1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Can you please define “trash media” or are you generalising about all media outlets; if so, please tell us where you are getting your news from about the appalling invasion of Ukraine, and how you are managing to formulate your world view …. thanks

You're taking my comment slightly out of context. I was referring to people who, instead of travelling, form all their world views on what they are TOLD rather than going to see for themselves. IE..  I'm on this forum because i have spent many happy times IN THAILAND, so my opinions are mine, not just those of others on the forum.  i can, therefore debate from a position of experience.

 

My world view is also based on 30 years + of travelling for work and pleasure in some nice and some not so nice places

 

To answer your question directly, I'm in UK, so if i read something in (say) the Daily Mail, i won't automatically believe it. Rather, I'll compare with The Times, Guardian, BBC, ITV etc etc.  If there are specialist blogs, I'll read them too.

If it's a scientific issue (Covid for example) I'll go straight to Medical and University sites rather than accept mainstream media's output.

 

As regards Ukraine, I have no choice but to use MSM BUT..... I read more than one source and have looked at a few blogs.

My point, is to QUESTION rather than believe automatically.

Answer your question?

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13 hours ago, Thunglom said:

let's face it quite apart from not being able to pay, they is hardly a country in the world that would welcome Russians at present.

Any Russian who expects otherwise would be utterly foolhardy.

Actually you would be surprised. Any country that voted to abstain would in theory accept Russians. I used the term "in theory" because in practice China is not accepting anyone, neither is Laos etc

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3 hours ago, Jimbo53 said:

If your Russian get in touch with your Embassy,and ask them,if your not,then why bother?

have them contact one of the Oligarchs ....  they should be able to get you a yacht from the Maldives 

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Posted
22 hours ago, Henryford said:

Who do you think are killing Ukranian women and children. Not the Russian Government it's Russian people.

Spot on, and not always under duress either.  

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22 hours ago, harada said:

Just going by the saying, it’s all in the eyes, from what I’ve seen of Putin lately, I think he might be heading for Siberia in a straight jacket before long. :crazy:

More like in a coffin, if the speculation about his health is correct.  

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5 minutes ago, Henryford said:

What is there to stop the Russian people from doing the same? In these circumstances, no one can force you to shoot people.

The problem is in a war zone all bets are off....perhaps you were ordered to shoot civilians but there may be bullets flying every which way including in your direction. Hardly a time to make rational decisions about shooting into the air.

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17 hours ago, VBF said:

You're taking my comment slightly out of context. I was referring to people who, instead of travelling, form all their world views on what they are TOLD rather than going to see for themselves. IE..  I'm on this forum because i have spent many happy times IN THAILAND, so my opinions are mine, not just those of others on the forum.  i can, therefore debate from a position of experience.

 

My world view is also based on 30 years + of travelling for work and pleasure in some nice and some not so nice places

 

To answer your question directly, I'm in UK, so if i read something in (say) the Daily Mail, i won't automatically believe it. Rather, I'll compare with The Times, Guardian, BBC, ITV etc etc.  If there are specialist blogs, I'll read them too.

If it's a scientific issue (Covid for example) I'll go straight to Medical and University sites rather than accept mainstream media's output.

 

As regards Ukraine, I have no choice but to use MSM BUT..... I read more than one source and have looked at a few blogs.

My point, is to QUESTION rather than believe automatically.

Answer your question?

 

Thanks for your explanation. So, you are sitting in the UK, digesting information from the mainstream media, and consequently being one of those “armchair travellers” that you so scorn. Anyhow, thank’s for mentioning The Guardian, at least that gives some clarity to the trash media you alluded to ¯\_()_/¯

 

I’m not sure if it was intentional or not, but your comment that I replied to came across as rather pretentious (I travel and am therefore able to form my own opinion) and condescending / patronising (other British & American “armchair travellers” don’t have their own opinions at all)

 

Unlike millions of Russians living in poverty, most Brits and Americans are able to travel widely, especially, but not exclusively, members on this forum.

 

You seem to think that your world view has validity because of the media  sources that inform you, whereas those that get their information from other sources, continue to enjoy their ignorance and bigotry ……………. hmmmm

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On 3/8/2022 at 7:20 AM, Benmart said:

I am grateful that I have resources to live here, but mostly that I have never met some of the creatures who post such hateful things about other people. It's the Russian government, not the individua Russian l tourist who is behind all this.

i can take it from you comments you don't have your place ie house..condo surrounded by these Nice (not) Russians.. 

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On 3/8/2022 at 10:49 AM, crazykopite said:

I agree with everything you say and yes I feel for those Russians who are holed up around the world unable to get funds or use there credit/debit cards due to the actions of a madman. The Russian citizens are the only people who can remove this evil by going onto the streets in there millions even if Putin is defeated in this invasion / war as long as he is in power as President the sanctions will remain and the only people who will suffer are the citizens of Russia . Putin will still have a warm place to sleep , and plenty of food this guy has stolen billions from his own people it’s time for them to have an uprising and get rid of him 

And the oloigarchs (many in the UK) who helped him get there, knowing their nests would be well feathered as a reward.  

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On 3/8/2022 at 12:42 PM, Enoon said:

Britain and Russia.

 

19th century.

Britain and Russia start off as friends....because Napoleonic France  threatens all the monarchies of Europe and that of Russia.

 

Then Britain and Russia stop being friends..............because Britain feels that Russian expansion South and East threatens Britains empire.

 

Britain becomes friends with the Ottoman Empire (anti Russian) and, together with France (friendly now) and Sardinia, defeats Russia in the Crimean War.

 

Later on the Ottoman Empire starts to get friendly with the rising German Empire, so Britain makes up with Russia to counteract Germany who, it feels, is challenging it's pre-eminence.

 

20th century

A big war takes place during which Britain plays a large part in defeating the Ottoman empire, Russia fights Germany for a while but then goes "commie", and signs a treaty with Germany, and Britain, together with various other countries, invades Russia in 1918.

 

For the next 20 years Britain and Russia are no longer friends, especially when Russia helps Germany to re-arm and signs another treaty with Germany.

 

Germany and Russia invade Poland in 1939.....half each.......that was the purpose of the treaty, to grab Poland without upsetting each other.

 

Britain is now, technically, at war with Russia, due to a treaty that Britain has with Poland..........but seems to ignore it.

 

In 1941, to Stalins utter astonishment, Germany invades Russia and forces it into a war for Russias survival.

 

Britain and Russia become friends "for the duration".

 

Russia survives and grabs half of Europe.......thus half of Europe finds itself under a dictatorship not far removed from the one it thought it was being saved from.

 

Mid 20th to early 21st century

Britain and Russia cease to be friends......then they think they are again.......then they're not.

 

Sometimes Russia are the good guys......sometimes they're not.

 

Right now they're not.

 

 

Excellent synopsis.  Oh, how positions shift when they become expedient ...

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