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Surin first province to make COVID endemic on April 1


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3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

After almost two years?

And that's 70% of people have had two doses of a vaccine so far.  With Sinovac and the need for boosters, it is unlikely that the number of people protected against the current or future variants is anywhere near 70%.

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6 hours ago, Petey11 said:

So they going to stop quarantine and isolation, open everthing up, get rid of all controls. Cant be endemic if you still have restrictions. Think Flu, TB, chicken pox, measles etc, all endemic, just monitored by Public Health authorities.

Should've been intelligently approached in this manner some two years ago. 

Oh well....

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Good idea, I am all for it, covid is travelling around here in Surin, most appear to isolate at home, hospitals appear to be running fine, most in my immediate area are vaccinated, not hearing of many seriously ill people why all the negative comments?

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14 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

USA has 30% and doing better than UK, Germany and France with per million death and infection

You obviously have not looked at, or do not understand the statistics.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

 

US has 3,003 deaths per million, which is way above UK, Germany and France. The number of cases per million  in the UK is higher, but bear in mind that the rate of testing in the UK is about 3 times that of the US. 

The booster rate in the UK as of yesterday was 67.4%

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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10 hours ago, dunque said:

You obviously have not looked at, or do not understand the statistics.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

 

US has 3,003 deaths per million, which is way above UK, Germany and France. The number of cases per million  in the UK is higher, but bear in mind that the rate of testing in the UK is about 3 times that of the US. 

The booster rate in the UK as of yesterday was 67.4%

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

I'm looking at last 7-day death/million. Total death to compare booster effectiveness is meaningless. OK, France has a little less but average Western Europe with a high vaccination and booster rate is way ahead in death compared to only 30% USA booster rate with 66% vaccination rate. 

 

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On 3/29/2022 at 3:32 AM, Petey11 said:

So they going to stop quarantine and isolation, open everthing up, get rid of all controls. Cant be endemic if you still have restrictions. Think Flu, TB, chicken pox, measles etc, all endemic, just monitored by Public Health authorities.

 Frequent hand-washing is probably the most effective 'preventative measure. Inoculations certainly didn't work for prevention - just look at China and then compare that to Africa. The data is there; don't ignore it.

 

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37 minutes ago, pizzachang said:

Frequent hand-washing is probably the most effective 'preventative measure. Inoculations certainly didn't work for prevention - just look at China and then compare that to Africa. The data is there; don't ignore it.

 

masks have saved lives. Social measures slowed down infection rates.  I cannot make judgement of China as I suspect their numbers are not true.  Talking to someone who just arrived here from China suggests a different scenario. 

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On 3/29/2022 at 10:14 PM, dunque said:

You obviously have not looked at, or do not understand the statistics.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

 

US has 3,003 deaths per million, which is way above UK, Germany and France. The number of cases per million  in the UK is higher, but bear in mind that the rate of testing in the UK is about 3 times that of the US. 

The booster rate in the UK as of yesterday was 67.4%

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

UK, Germany, France all are showing increased deaths/million population in the last 7-days. Only USA is showing a declining trend with only 30% boosters and 66% vaccination rate. Anti-vaxxers are grabbing this stats in the USA to debunk effect of vaccination rate and booster shots in the wake of FDA's approval for second booster shot for 50-years and older. 

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On 3/28/2022 at 8:18 PM, Classic Ray said:

Making it endemic does not mean free of the virus, just that they recognise it is here to stay and will deal with infections as they do other common virus infections.

Exactly right!

It also does not mean to keep on wearing masks and other restrictions, but lifting restrictions and getting life back to some sort of norm. Endemic means ranking it similar to the flu, pneumonia among others. So many people don't wear N95 masks and/or wear them improperly, so is really a joke, and outdoors is pretty much useless, as is wearing them on motorcycles with no helmets.

 

If restrictions are not lifted soon there will be no economy left to go back to. Apparently this is OK for some, but for the vast majority of the population is a very bleak irreversible future, with many already experiencing quite difficult times. The current variants are to vax'd people of little consequence. Those that are unvax'd at this point, is their preference. The whole point of the vaccines was to reduce the possibility of serious sickness, and death, not a 100 percent solution. Cold like symptoms or a scratchy throat is no reason to keep the world locked down any further.

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