Jealous ex stabs woman to death in front of stunned shoppers - no one intervenes

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Police revealed that he had left jail in 2019 after being convicted of attempted murder of his ex girlfriend. 

well I hope this time the keep him in and he rots to death behind bars.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

unbelievable that nobody interfered ....... chasing and 8 times stabbing......

Would you chase a nutter with a knife?

[Lemsta69]

59 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Why lock him up? Execution is the appropriate sentence

without a trial? give yourself an uppercut ????

[Lemsta69]

deport him then throw away the key! ????

[prakhonchai nick]

6 hours ago, Denim said:

Jeez. Just lock him up in an unpleasant place and throw away the key. 

NO   Execute the scum.  He will do it again if jailed and then freed after just a few years and a few wais!

[Road Warrior]

a animal   --  good for tourist ????????????????

[prakhonchai nick]

4 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

without a trial? give yourself an uppercut ????

Trial for what. Hundreds of witnesses. The reason for his actions are immaterial. An eye for an eye  TODAY PLEASE!

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

deport him then throw away the key! ????

Wrong thread...   

 

[elderly foreigner who stole a 150 baht bottle of rum]

[chang50]

Nobody honestly knows what they would do confronted by a knife weilding maniac..

[Cake Monster]

Yet another Psychopath allowed to wander among Society instead of being kept in a safe , secure place 

[Lemsta69]

3 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said:

Trial for what. Hundreds of witnesses. The reason for his actions are immaterial. An eye for an eye  TODAY PLEASE!

nonsense

[shackleton]

Surprised that places like this usually have security guards in place mind you with how fast it happened would probably would not be able to prevent her getting stabbed to death 

[aussienam]

2 hours ago, redwood1 said:

For crying out loud why not at least pick up a bottle of cooking oil or some thing and throw it at him...

These situations are usually very fluid and random.  The offender appears to have moved about in pursuit of the victim through the store. 

 

Where bystanders were situated, what was around them at the time, distance from the offender, what they saw from the angles of view towards the offender, whether they understood the verbal communications, etc. are all factors that determine whether people truly understand what is happening and deny or present an opportunity for anyone brave enough to intervene. 

 

A person brandishing a knife in a highly excited state also presents an instant threat to safety.  Most people would react with a fight/flight instinct - leaning towards flight unless cornered. Adrenaline kicks in, tunnel vision, extreme fear, shock, self preservation.

The brain's amygdala takes over and the prefrontal cortex (logic and reasoning) takes a back seat. 

It is easy in hindsight to be critical of people in these types of incidents.  

 

It is rare that people intervene immediately and one would have to be lucky in that respect to have someone risk their life for a stranger.  That person would usually be more in control (either by nature and/or nurture) and see opportunities to disarm/disable the threat.  

 

Throwing a bottle of cooking oil or any other object, would have to be enough to disarm or disable that person.  And if you missed or were not powerful enough, you could then become a target as well.  

 

A very sad outcome yes.  It is a pity he wasn't stopped in time.  

 

 

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, shackleton said:

Surprised that places like this usually have security guards in place mind you with how fast it happened would probably would not be able to prevent her getting stabbed to death 

They’re not security guards...  There minimum wage unskilled labourers in a uniform who stand near a door while trying not to fall asleep !!!....     

 

Would you really expect these poor feckless characters to take on a crazed lunatic with a knife ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

30 minutes ago, chang50 said:

Nobody honestly knows what they would do confronted by a knife weilding maniac..

Oh... I don’t know about that... We have at least one poster who would try and lube him up !!!!

 

 

2 hours ago, redwood1 said:

For crying out loud why not at least pick up a bottle of cooking oil or some thing and throw it at him...

[swm59nj]

So they broke up.  He had a new girlfriend and she was dating someone.  And they both would continue speaking to each other.  So he decides to come looking for her and stabs her.  How crazy is that. 
Im just speculating.  The encounter could have happened really fast.  But nevertheless spectators are in shock in a situation like that.  And the first response for most is just look, run, or hide.  Especially if a weapon is involved.  You may want to help, but your mind says not to.   But some people did step forward, but unfortunately it was too late.  At least they held the guy for authorities.  I give them a lot of credit for that. 
There was a comment about security guards at stores , malls etc.  In my little over two years in Bangkok I have only seen two security guards armed at banks with full protective equipment.  The others at banks, malls, etc. don’t even have anything for defense.  Not even pepper spray or handcuffs to control someone. 

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts have been removed.

[Dolmance]

This woman, who was the victim of a horrible crime, chose to be in a relationship with a man who was released from prison for trying to murder a previous girlfriend, and bears a certain responsibility for what happened to her.   If I'd been present and was stabbed while intervening in such an attack, and had I survived, I would have been furious at her once I'd learned the facts. 

 

If I'd been present and happened to know this man's history beforehand, I definitely would not have gotten involved, unless I'd happened to be walking around with a firearm in my pocket, and I don't walk around with firearms in my pocket. 

 

If it was a kid being stabbed, I'd have gotten involved, and probably gotten killed, but I wouldn't risk my life for a 32 year old adult in a horrible and volatile situation of her own making. 

[moe666]

6 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

 

Nothing to find in a Big C store to kick him with?? throw at him? slam with?  I know it sounds easier than it would be, but nobody did anything to prevent this...

What would you have done,do not speculate on what other would have done what would you have done

[JesseHumphry]

3 hours ago, redwood1 said:

If I was there he would have had a grocery cart slamming into him at full speed....

It's way easier for us to dream about being the hero than it is to actually be the hero. 

Murder is a very rare and violent action, enough to stun the vast majority of people into inaction. Fight, flight, or freeze. Unless you're trained, you likely won't even understand what's happening until it's over.

[moe666]

56 minutes ago, swm59nj said:

So they broke up.  He had a new girlfriend and she was dating someone.  And they both would continue speaking to each other.  So he decides to come looking for her and stabs her.  How crazy is that. 
Im just speculating.  The encounter could have happened really fast.  But nevertheless spectators are in shock in a situation like that.  And the first response for most is just look, run, or hide.  Especially if a weapon is involved.  You may want to help, but your mind says not to.   But some people did step forward, but unfortunately it was too late.  At least they held the guy for authorities.  I give them a lot of credit for that. 
There was a comment about security guards at stores , malls etc.  In my little over two years in Bangkok I have only seen two security guards armed at banks with full protective equipment.  The others at banks, malls, etc. don’t even have anything for defense.  Not even pepper spray or handcuffs to control someone. 

Never expect a security guard to do anything and defiantly do not expect a cop to step in 

[toofarnorth]

3 hours ago, giddyup said:

We're all heroes unless we actually have to face real danger.

I have to once a month when 'er indoors get the red wave.

[Toby1947]

Raving nut case cowards the lot of them 

[pipeflaw]

Actually, under Thai law, truth is a defense to defamation.

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, Dolmance said:

This woman, who was the victim of a horrible crime, chose to be in a relationship with a man who was released from prison for trying to murder a previous girlfriend, and bears a certain responsibility for what happened to her.   If I'd been present and was stabbed while intervening in such an attack, and had I survived, I would have been furious at her once I'd learned the facts. 

 

If I'd been present and happened to know this man's history beforehand, I definitely would not have gotten involved, unless I'd happened to be walking around with a firearm in my pocket, and I don't walk around with firearms in my pocket. 

 

If it was a kid being stabbed, I'd have gotten involved, and probably gotten killed, but I wouldn't risk my life for a 32 year old adult in a horrible and volatile situation of her own making. 

You're assuming she knew about his conviction. He probably didn't advertise the fact. 

 

If the authorities hadn't released this psychopath from prison that woman would still be alive. I never understand why attempted (failed) murderers get softer sentences than successful murderers. 

[Chongalulu]

6 hours ago, petermik said:

I could not have stood by and watch this play out....shameful that bystanders did nothing

Says the brave keyboard warrior… any example you’d like to regale us of your past acts of bravery endangering your life ?? ???? 

[Burma Bill]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

he had left jail in 2019 after being convicted of attempted murder of his ex girlfriend. 

What a "nutter" - he should have been locked up in a padded cell!!

[Kwaibill]

My dad years ago was shot by a guy on a similar rampage in the Winchester Western cafeteria. Said it felt like a horse kick; fortunately his trousers had steel buttons.

Point is the guy had emptied his revolver and ducked into the lavatory passage. He reloaded and came out blazing again before my pop got to him. Knives don't need to be reloaded.

[scorecard]

8 hours ago, sleepwalker999 said:

People tend to freeze up in these situations, I find this article's insinuation that people doing their weekly shopping are somehow to blame for a murder a bit disturbing to be honest. 

People don't interfere in such incidents in many countries, and in many the police/authorities frequently tell the public to not get involved. 

[vandeventer]

It's easy to say this or that but how many of you would really help her, if you knew you could get stabbed if you did, be honest? Lets just hope the judge is not soft on him.