Thai Navy to Consider Alternatives to China Submarine Deal

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by Natthaphon Sangpolsit

    

BANGKOK (NNT) - The Royal Thai Navy has assured it can review other options if its 13.5 billion baht deal to procure a submarine from the China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Company (CSOC) is deemed untenable, due to the company’s inability to acquire a German-made engine as stipulated in the agreement.

 

The company, Motor and Turbine Union (MTU), is refusing to supply China with the MTU396 diesel engine that would be used in the S26T Yuan-class submarine because of an embargo that prevents the sale of equipment classified as military/defense items.

 

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According to Navy Chief of Staff Adm Tharoengsak Sirisawat, additional discussions will be held with CSOC near the end of the month to determine whether the issue can be resolved.

 

Prime Minister and Defense Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha had previously instructed the navy to do everything possible to complete the deal, but said the contract could be terminated should China fail to meet the terms of the agreement.

 

-- © Copyright NNT 2022-04-11

 

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[RandiRona]

Papa Xi wont like it. If not submarines then buy Corn...you arent getting refund!

[garyk]

With military run countries, it never gets better. The writing is on the wall. 

It will progressively get worse. 

 

 

[mania]

5 minutes ago, garyk said:

With military run countries, it never gets better. The writing is on the wall. 

It will progressively get worse. 

 

 

Myanmar 2

[Thunglom]

the answer is not have one. Te military don't trust the navy to have a submarine. The last time they had one they staged a coup. Would have worked but they got stuck in the Chao Phraya river.

[TheFishman1]

If they can’t get the subs the top brass will figure out another scam so they can get paid a lot of money in offshore for an account the reason they want this deal to go through as we don’t get through absolutely a lot of money corruption at its best TIT

[Geoffggi]

Time to be honest with themselves & the Thai people, a submarine would definitely be a nice to have item but in sincerity is it a NEED to have item? who is the country that would invade Thailand by sea?? 

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, Geoffggi said:

Time to be honest with themselves & the Thai people, a submarine would definitely be a nice to have item but in sincerity is it a NEED to have item? who is the country that would invade Thailand by sea?? 

Laos....

[ThailandRyan]

Spaceships the next frontier..  

[Hayduke]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

According to Navy Chief of Staff Adm Tharoengsak Sirisawat, additional discussions will be held with CSOC near the end of the month to determine whether the issue can be resolved.

The Admiral refused to comment on the rumor that the 13.5 billion Baht contract will now be awarded to his nephew's new company, “Subs by Somchai”.

 

 

 

Edited April 10, 2022 by Hayduke

[vandeventer]

With covid spreading very fast in small towns north of Chiang Mai, and hospitals running out of good medicine, young people being sent home with covid and infect their families. Everyone is saying the government is broke. So yes this must be a good time to spend all that money on a Sub.???

[Andycoops]

2 hours ago, mania said:

Myanmar 2

Only if they start torching villages etc...

I put nothing past this bunch of Muppets in their desire to cling to power.

[blazes]

2 hours ago, garyk said:

With military run countries, it never gets better. The writing is on the wall. 

It will progressively get worse. 

 

 

But it does get better with "civilian"-run countries??? 

 

Not that most people would ever freely choose to live in "military-run" countries, but it surely is difficult to find so-called "democratic" countries that inevitably "get better."

 

Besides, as Eisenhower reminded us in 1960, countries are generally (pun intended) ruled by their military-industrial complexes....

[Tarteso]

Any problem with Chinese engine?????

[itsari]

19 minutes ago, Hayduke said:

The Admiral refused to comment on the rumor that the 13.5 billion Baht contract will now be awarded to his nephew's new company, “Subs by Somchai”.

 

 

 

Looks a great alternative design to fit the Thai economy . 

But the engine needs to be German dont forget .

[milesinnz]

For those old enough to remember.. you have to be pretty old like me !!! remember the song ?

Edited April 10, 2022 by milesinnz

[BayArea]

2 hours ago, mania said:

Myanmar 2

Be careful,  Thai apologists won't like your response. ????

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister and Defense Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha had previously instructed the navy to do everything possible to complete the deal, but said the contract could be terminated should China fail to meet the terms of the agreement.

He wouldn't dare do it.

[sammieuk1]

Can't China supply Some cutting edge oars instead ????

[wombat]

1 hour ago, Hayduke said:

 

 

 

 

Narco subs by Pablo?

[Crossy]

41 minutes ago, milesinnz said:

For those old enough to remember.. you have to be pretty old like me !!! remember the song ?

 

"In the town where I was born ..." now it's ruddy well stuck in my brain for the rest of the day ...

[mtls2005]

2 hours ago, Thunglom said:

Te military don't trust the navy to have a submarine. The last time they had one they staged a coup. Would have worked but they got stuck in the Chao Phraya river.

The Manhattan Rebellion, 1951. Led by RTN submariners, but a destroyer was used, HTMS Sri Ayutthaya. And it got stuck at Memorial Bridge which was not raised.

 

This is why submarines were off the table until the most recent interregnum, and submariners considered persona non grata.

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

44 minutes ago, milesinnz said:

For those old enough to remember.. you have to be pretty old like me !!! remember the song ?

To me it would have been "The song remains the same"  This Government is a broken record..

[phetphet]

The French might have some spare ones for sale from the cancelled Aussie contract.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Time to be honest with themselves & the Thai people, a submarine would definitely be a nice to have item but in sincerity is it a NEED to have item? who is the country that would invade Thailand by sea?? 

Maybe they could negotiate another aircraft carrier?

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

Maybe they could negotiate another aircraft carrier?

I have some beachfront property in Nevada they could use for training...

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

who is the country that would invade Thailand by sea?? 

Who would invade Thailand at all? For what? What would they get that they don't have already?

[dogfish180]

2 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Time to be honest with themselves & the Thai people, a submarine would definitely be a nice to have item but in sincerity is it a NEED to have item? who is the country that would invade Thailand by sea?? 

And how would a submarine driven by Somchai stop them! ????????

[dogfish180]

Fitted with the Isuzu D Max engine, tuned by Somchai ECU shop ....

[D M G]