Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[Alotoftravel]

8 hours ago, Pib said:

DC charging rate of an EV can be way overhyped.   Let's take the 150KW DC charging rate of the Sealion with a 91KWH battery.

 

First, to charge at a 150KW rate at person will need to use a 150KW or greater DC charger which are very limited in Thailand.   The great, great majority of DC Fast Chargers in Thailand are 120KW (or less) chargers  with two charging outlets that share this 120KW which means when two EV are charging then 60KW would be the max achievable per vehicle.    And even if there is  only one vehicle at the charger each outlet on that 120KW charger "might still be limited" to 60KW max instead of it being able to pump-out120KW to the outlet---depends on the charger's design.    Using the PTT Station Pluz charging app and setting it to only show their DC chargers with at least 147KW and higher capability there were only 6 locations in all of Thailand on the PTT charging network.   

 

Second, even if a person is connected to some HUGE charger...say a 360KW charger...the Sealion's charging curve will only allow 150KW for "part of its charging process"...the approx 15% to 45% part....between 46% to 85% only approx 80KW max...and then above 85% around 45KW max.  

https://evkx.net/models/byd/sealion_7/sealion_7_excellence/chargingcurve/

 

An EV having a high charging rate capability is a good thing but a person can only take advantage of that higher charging rate if DC chargers exist to provide the required high power....and of course what portion of the EV's charging curve can accept the highest rate because it will "not" be for its entire charging curve from 0 to 100% with current battery technology.

 

 

can BYD cars in Thailand use Telsa superchargers 250 kw yet. I understand BYD can in Australia. 

[digbeth]

1 hour ago, Alotoftravel said:

can BYD cars in Thailand use Telsa superchargers 250 kw yet. I understand BYD can in Australia. 

not yet and nothing said about allowing third party cars to access the supercharging network

 

which isn't too bad tesla superchargers in Thailand are inconveniently placed in malls instead of on the road side - and since it chages too fast - no body in malls use them as you have to hang around the charger to move your cars in 20-30 minutes otherwise you get the idle penalty for hogging the space - so if you want to grab a bit or actually do shoping in malls it's always better to use the AC charger and take your time 

[Bandersnatch]

I just posted over in the alternative Energy Forum a video about using the small MG battery modules in a DIY home battery setup

 

 

[Pib]

11 hours ago, Alotoftravel said:

can BYD cars in Thailand use Telsa superchargers 250 kw yet. I understand BYD can in Australia. 

 

10 hours ago, digbeth said:

not yet and nothing said about allowing third party cars to access the supercharging network

 

which isn't too bad tesla superchargers in Thailand are inconveniently placed in malls instead of on the road side - and since it chages too fast - no body in malls use them as you have to hang around the charger to move your cars in 20-30 minutes otherwise you get the idle penalty for hogging the space - so if you want to grab a bit or actually do shoping in malls it's always better to use the AC charger and take your time 

 

Yeap...as @digbethsaid not in Thailand yet.   Below are a couple of snapshots  from the Tesla app showing Tesla Supercharger locations in Thailand  for "Tesla EVs" and then "non-Tesla EVs."   

 

1st snapshot is with the app set to show all Tesla chargers available for Tesla EVs.  And then the 2nd snapshot shows the app set to display those Tesla locations in Thailand which also support non-Tesla EVs.

 

1st Snapshot...Tesla Superchargers for "Tesla EVs" in Thailand

 

 

 

2nd Snapshot...Tesla Supercharger locations in Thailand for "non-Tesla" EVs. 

Results: None

 

 

 

 

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

Someone was expecting a big rush on Tesla sales or hoping that the supercharger network will be open to non Tesla EV’s anytime soon !!

 

[matchar]

The problem with chargers in malls etc is they tend to charge higher fees than the chargers at gas stations (which already cost more than charging at home).

 

Most of the mall chargers I see are always empty and some of them even have an hourly rate instead of electricity usage.

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Someone was expecting a big rush on Tesla sales or hoping that the supercharger network will be open to non Tesla EV’s anytime soon !!

 

Nah, just Tesla supplying customer support, since paying a bit of a premium for their offerings.

 

👍👍

 

Would be nice if offered to non Tesla autos, at least till demand was there for Tesla customers.  Would be smart business for ROI.