Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[motdaeng]

27 minutes ago, carlyai said:

One of the Thai guys on a Sealion 7 BYD forum posted this pic.

It is a bolt sticking out near the accelorator pedal.

They said it was common with all Sealion 7s.

I can't believe that.

 

that doesn't look right ...

... can you share the forum (facebook?) link ... thanks ....

[Andrew Dwyer]

11 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

that doesn't look right ...

... can you share the forum (facebook?) link ... thanks ....

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1B4FLS3iUH/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

quite a few responses that they have the same and some suggesting to put a plastic nut with a flange on it .

 

 

just had a look at my Seal and it has similar although not quite so obvious.

 

[motdaeng]

a bev is ordered, i sold my ice car yesterday ... for now i'm dependent on my wife's car ... :-(

 

i have some questions with the installation of a wall charger. i trust the expertise of some forum members

more than most electricians here in thailand:  

 

- what cable dimensions for L ...... mm2, N ...... mm2, G ...... mm2 are needed? (total cable length approx. 15 meters) 
- when adding a new schneider breaker 40a to the existing consumer unit, do i need an another safty breaker (40 a ?) next to the wallbox?

  or would an on/off switch make sense, or be ok? what type of switch would you recommend?  
- if i want to monitor the kwh going into the wall charger, what's a simple solution?

  is maybe a breaker with monitoring mode available, that can be installed in the existing consumer unit?  

 

thanks a lot for your help, input, and for sharing your experiences, motdaeng!  

 

 

the "diagram" below shows the existing electrical installation and the new setup for the wall charger ...

 

 

 

[Pib]

 

Same kind of stuff on an Atto 3 "if you put your heads & eyes down to seat level so you can see under the dash."  Just bolts and nuts.  In the Atto's case it easy to see if you look under the dash since the carpet don't go as high up like the Sealion 7 to cover the nuts and bolts in some places.  See below.  

 

On the Sealion I expect there is a nut on that protruding bolt if the person looks closer.  Nothing to worry about.   And when looking under the dash a person can see all kinds of nuts and bolts, wires, stuff, etc.  Nothing to worry about.

 

 

 

 

[Pib]

9 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

a bev is ordered, i sold my ice car yesterday ... for now i'm dependent on my wife's car ... :-(

 

i have some questions with the installation of a wall charger. i trust the expertise of some forum members

more than most electricians here in thailand:  

 

- what cable dimensions for L ...... mm2, N ...... mm2, G ...... mm2 are needed? (total cable length approx. 15 meters) 
- when adding a new schneider breaker 40a to the existing consumer unit, do i need an another safty breaker (40 a ?) next to the wallbox?

  or would an on/off switch make sense, or be ok? what type of switch would you recommend?  
- if i want to monitor the kwh going into the wall charger, what's a simple solution?

  is maybe a breaker with monitoring mode available, that can be installed in the existing consumer unit?  

 

thanks a lot for your help, input, and for sharing your experiences, motdaeng!  

 

 

the "diagram" below shows the existing electrical installation and the new setup for the wall charger ...

 

 

 

A 40A circuit breaker is required in the main circuit box.....from that breaker 10mm2 wire (live, neutral  & ground) to a 40A (30ma) "RCBO" just before input to the wall charger.   Yeap, regular breaker on one end of the 10mm2 wire run and a RCBO breaker on the other end.   Installed by BYD electrical contractors.

 

 Later, I added a wattmeter/voltage/100A meter with CT on the input of the wall charger so I could see/monitor electron flow.  Bought it off Lazada.  I also have a similar meter on my main circuit box panel to monitor voltage, amps, etc. 

 

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

25 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

a bev is ordered

 

Was it only me or did anyone else hear a fanfare when reading that ??

 

 

Seriously though, welcome to the club !!

Are you willing to divulge which one you went for so we can nod our collective heads in approval ??

[motdaeng]

7 minutes ago, Pib said:

A 40A circuit breaker is required in the main circuit box.....from that breaker 10mm2 wire (live, neutral  & ground) to a 40A (30ma) "RCBO" just before input to the wall charger.   Yeap, regular breaker on one end of the 10mm2 wire run and a RCBO breaker on the other end.   Installed by BYD electrical contractors.

 

 Later, I added a wattmeter/voltage/100A meter with CT on the input of the wall charger so I could see/monitor electron flow.  Bought it off Lazada.  I also have a similar meter on my main circuit box panel to monitor voltage, amps, etc. 

 

 

thank you very much for the detailed answers, i truly appreciate your help ... motdaeng

[JBChiangRai]

33 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

- when adding a new schneider breaker 40a to the existing consumer unit, do i need an another safty breaker (40 a ?) next to the wallbox?

  or would an on/off switch make sense, or be ok? what type of switch would you recommend?  
- if i want to monitor the kwh going into the wall charger, what's a simple solution?

  is maybe a breaker with monitoring mode available, that can be installed in the existing consumer unit?  

 

thanks a lot for your help, input, and for sharing your experiences, motdaeng!  

 

 

the "diagram" below shows the existing electrical installation and the new setup for the wall charger ...

 

 

 

This is what I would do.

 

If your existing RCBO Safety cut is working properly, I don’t see why you would need another.

 

You have 3 phase, if your planning on staying in that house, I would go for a 3 phase 22Kw charger, if your buying a Sealion 7 (for example) it will charge at 11Kw (don’t buy a 3 phase 11Kw wall box under any circumstances).

 

I would put your wall box on an industrial plug and fit an industrial socket where you want your wall box (red 3 phase 32 amp or blue single phase 32 amp) then you can take the charger with you if you move house.

 

To be neat, I would go for a charger that records what it pumps into the car.

[Pib]

Here's some pics of my 7KW wall charger setup. 

 

EV charger 40A regular breaker in main home box

 

 

Wall charger setup in my carport.  40A (30ma) breaker box at top, charger at bottom, and that power meter I added on later

 

 

Closeup of 40A(30ma) RCBO 

 

 

Close up of the meter I added to monitor input to the charger.  Bought the meter off Lazada and the plastic electrical junction box the meter is  at the hardware store....I just cut out the front of the box to fit the meter in.  Easy.   I even fired-up the charger and was charging my EV for a few seconds to show the type of meter readout provided. 

 

 

 

 

 

[motdaeng]

10 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Was it only me or did anyone else hear a fanfare when reading that ??

 

 

Seriously though, welcome to the club !!

Are you willing to divulge which one you went for so we can nod our collective heads in approval ??

 

i came close to buying a bev (volvo, hyundain or zeekr) several times over the past two years. during this time,

i’ve learned a lot about bev's, and now the moment has finally arrived to say goodbye “for good” to the ice world 

 

i’ve ordered the byd sealion 7 performance. the issue i had with limited headroom was resolved during the test drive

by adjusting the steering wheel, which let me shift my seating position further back ... so far so good!

[Pib]

 

 

[motdaeng]

14 minutes ago, Pib said:

Here's some pics of my 7KW wall charger setup. 

 

EV charger 40A regular breaker in main home box

 

 

Wall charger setup in my carport.  40A (30ma) breaker box at top, charger at bottom, and that power meter I added on later

 

 

Closeup of 40A(30ma) RCBO 

 

 

Close up of the meter I added to monitor input to the charger.  Bought the meter off Lazada and the plastic electrical junction box the meter is  at the hardware store....I just cut out the front of the box to fit the meter in.  Easy.   I even fired-up the charger and was charging my EV for a few seconds to show the type of meter readout provided. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thank you once again for your consistently helpful support ...    

i hope you don't mind if i maybe copy your clean and neat setup ... 

[carlyai]

As I'm just new on this forum I didn't want to rush in with the way I would do it.

Sorry for late reply.