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You don't necessarily need BYD's appointed installer to install the charger.

 

I asked them to deliver the charger only and I installed it myself.  You could just take possession of it and ask a local electrician to install it.

 

You could also consider what I did, I put a 32 amp plug and socket between the consumer unit and the charger effectively turning the charger into something that's not considered a permanent fixture should you sell the house or if you're a tenant.

 

Saying the charger has to be affixed to a stand sounds suspicious to me.

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1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

You don't necessarily need BYD's appointed installer to install the charger.

 

I asked them to deliver the charger only and I installed it myself.  You could just take possession of it and ask a local electrician to install it.

 

You could also consider what I did, I put a 32 amp plug and socket between the consumer unit and the charger effectively turning the charger into something that's not considered a permanent fixture should you sell the house or if you're a tenant.

 

Saying the charger has to be affixed to a stand sounds suspicious to me.

I’m still waiting for the actual byd electrician to arrive and give me a quote. 
 

If it’s a crazy price or I don’t have confidence in what he is saying, fall back is to take delivery of the charger and have another company do the install.

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Those people abusing their EV TOU meter probably don’t understand that the meter is constantly sending snapshot data to PEA/MEA.

 

Aircon use would fluctuate and not match the profile of an EV charging so they would no very quickly it was being abused.

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The TOU meter is for selling electricity at night when demand is lower hence the price is lower?

 

If so, why do they care if you are using it to charge an EV or for something else?

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Or are they simply saying you can't have your cake and eat it?

 

Because the TOU meter has a higher daytime electric rate than a standard meter so it's better for low daytime users.

 

Seems fair that you can only have one meter. Why should EV owners get special treatment?

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42 minutes ago, matchar said:

The TOU meter is for selling electricity at night when demand is lower hence the price is lower?

 

If so, why do they care if you are using it to charge an EV or for something else?

People with two Meters have used their normal Meter with lower rate during daytime and switched over to the TOU Meter during night time. With this they avoided  the higher peak Time Rates of the TOU Meter 

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1 hour ago, matchar said:

The TOU meter is for selling electricity at night when demand is lower hence the price is lower?

 

If so, why do they care if you are using it to charge an EV or for something else?

There are different rates for residential and business purposes when it comes to a regular meter and TOU meter.   For most "businesses" electricity rates there is also also a peak "demand" charge that comes into play on top of the typical rates per KWH, Ft, and meter charge.   And there are a quite a few different regular and TOU "business" rates.  There is also a different "service charge" per month. 

 

LOTs of Thais run there business right at their home....like on the first floor of their 3 story shop-house....and it might be a business that uses a lot of "power eating" machines.     And even if they  currently have a TOU meter based on business rates if they could get another TOU meter based on residential rates and then hook it into some of their business machines that use lots of power and have Somchai work at night then they can lower their monthly electricity bill quite a bit.  Good for the customer but it's gaming the "array" of rates that PEA (and MEA) has established based on what type of electricity user your are. 

 

See below PEA tariff schedule for the various rates...and notice how most business plans also have a demand charge and also a higher service fee.   PEA/MEA don't like people who try to "game" the rates as it distorts their business model, tying to determine electrical system upgrades, buying fuel to make electricity, etc.  

 

https://www.pea.co.th/sites/default/files/documents/tariff/EN_Electricity_Tariffs_May_2023.pdf

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We have posted a lot about "PEA" no longer allowing a 2nd meter for EV charging, but has anyone seen any news article/official document saying "MEA" which provides electricity to Bangkok, Samut Prakan, and Nanthaburi no longer allows a 2nd meter for EV charging? 

 

I haven't and the MEA website indicates they support residential Home EV Charger service which I assume means a "separate" meter if desired.

 

 

https://www.mea.or.th/en/

 

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https://www.mea.or.th/our-services/mea-service/e-service/new-meter-ev-home

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56 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

We have posted a lot about "PEA" no longer allowing a 2nd meter for EV charging, but has anyone seen any news article/official document saying "MEA" which provides electricity to Bangkok, Samut Prakan, and Nanthaburi no longer allows a 2nd meter for EV charging? 

 

I haven't and the MEA website indicates they support residential Home EV Charger service which I assume means a "separate" meter if desired.

 

 

https://www.mea.or.th/en/

 

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https://www.mea.or.th/our-services/mea-service/e-service/new-meter-ev-home

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Sounds to me more that MEA provides Home Charger installation Services.

 

 

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Regarding the TOU meter discussion. Both of "our" houses are equipped with TOU meter. The house of the in-laws where we initially charged our EV and also the new house just next door. Although for now, we keep the charger connected to the in-laws but reaping the benefit of using cheap electric for running ACs in our house at the time when we are mostly at home (evenings and weekends)

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11 hours ago, UWEB said:

Sounds to me more that MEA provides Home Charger installation Services.

 

 

 

It could be as they (MEA) have provided such service for around 3 years which began before PEA rescinded their 2nd meter policy effective 1 Sep 2024. 

 

Below infographic from the MEA website is their current EV charger promotion which is still the same as in the video and is for installation of necessary equipment like wire, circuit breaker box, grounding up to where the actual charger would be installed---but it does not include the charger as that would be extra or left for the owner to install later.   

 

And the infographic only shows "one" meter but with two lines running to the house...one line for the house and a separate line for the charger.   Now this implies to me MEA only allows one meter (except maybe in unique cases) now as it seems if they still allowed a 2nd TOU meter it would seem it would be shown as an option on the infographic.   

 

I'm going guess MEA no longer allows a 2nd meter for an EV charger just like PEA except MEA just maintained a low key in implementing the change...maybe no flashy public announcement....whereas PEA got plenty of notice in the news releases.   But hey, that's just my guess.

 

https://www.mea.or.th/other-services/ken/promotion-price/ev-charger

 

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Nope....I asked MEA via email if they allow a 2nd meter for EV charging....answer was no....see below.

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Dear  xxxxxxxx

      MEA doesn't allow for 2nd meter. If you would like to install an EV charger, we suggest you to install second circuit and increase the meter to 30(100) A 1P2W or 3P4W . You can submit the request for increase the meter, TOU tariff and inspect for second circuit at Website : https://meaeservice.mea.or.th  You have to sign up and verify your identity before submit the request. After that, choose > Service for requesting changes in electricity usage >  request for EV Home Charger . Please attach the document as below.
- In the case of the meter’s owner having a name in the household registration that uses electricity.

1. Copy of the meter owner's ID card / Passport (certified)
2. Copy of house registration (certified)
3. Electricity bill

- In the case of the meter's owner don't have a name in the household registration that uses electricity.
1. Copy of the meter owner's ID card / Passport (certified)
2. Ownership documents (house/condominium purchase agreement or a lease agreement, Title deed, first page to last page, etc.)
3. Electricity bill

*Document must be clear and all copies must be certified with signature or handwriting.

 

Best regard,

MEA Call Center 1130

 

 

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