Bangkok Governor inspected “100-Deaths Curve” in Bangkok following fatal road accident, killing five people

[webfact]

 

By Nop Meechukhun

 

Bangkok – Bangkok governor Chadchart Sittipunt inspected the notorious “100-Deaths Curve” on Ratchada Road today, June 3rd after five people were killed when a pickup truck crashed into an electric pole early this morning.

 

The Governor and senior officers from the Phaholyothin Police Station arrived at the scene around 10:30 AM. Chadchart said that the pickup truck’s speedometer was shown at 120 km./hr., exceeding the legal speed limit which was 80 km./hr. The speed was an important factor, coupled with the physical area of a curve and a little rain which made the road surface more slippery.

 

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One of his policies was to map out all risk points in all dimensions, both crimes, and accidents. This will lead to the consideration of the physical areas for adjustments as risk points and of the speed limit.

 

Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2022/06/03/bangkok-governor-inspected-100-deaths-curve-in-bangkok-following-fatal-road-accident-killing-five-people-this-morning/

 

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[ezzra]

Just as you can't fix stupid, you can fix recklessness and absent minded driving style not to mention use of mind altering subsistence that people use, people will continue to die in scores no matter how the road is curved of strait, in 99% of the cases, it is not the terrains, it's the people behind the wheel... 

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Chadchart said that the pickup truck’s speedometer was shown at 120 km./hr., exceeding the legal speed limit which was 80 km./hr.

And there lays the answer.

[Nkpjed]

I imagine the next 100 deaths will come much faster, because until they tackle the root of the problem; education, testing before issuing a license, harsh penalties for offenders, and proper law enforcement, things here will never change.

[NE1]

I see the pictures of the vehicle , there didn't appear to be a lot of tread on the tyres.

But nobody is ever concerned about things like that.

Keystone cops stop have check points , but as long as you have a tax disc then your vehicle must be road worthy.

[klauskunkel]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The speed was an important factor, coupled with the physical area of a curve and a little rain which made the road surface more slippery.

and the driver's irresponsibility, lack of skill and judgement did not make it into the above equation

[thailand49]

What is there to inspect!  You come from the same school of driving which is clueless. 

Here is a clue!   You can not have zero enforcement post speed limits already too high and expect improper educated drivers not to exceed the limit and share the road.  I seen roads marked all over Thailand 60 for example and majority are traveling 100, next thing you know curve too late no matter how many signs or paint you put on the road! 

Another example crosswalk you have allow speeds in congested Bangkok roads listed at 80, majority exceed it then right in the middle of the race track you put a crosswalk knowing within the country pedestrian have no right of way. 

Another,  then you got head of police force who disregards the driving law saying you basically can travel whatever speed because cars have better technology today for safety.

Then you got the head of the Dept. Land. Transport who announced nothing wrong with the design of Thailand roads. 

Ask long as any Thai is charge of this problem they do a photo op and that is their solution! 

[Bangkok Barry]

15 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Another example crosswalk you have allow speeds in congested Bangkok roads listed at 80,

In the UK most or all towns now have a posted speed limit of 20mph in built up areas. That's 32kph. In Thailand it is 80.

[Aussieroaming]

Don't blame the curve, blame the driver and the lack of police deterence.

[George Aylesham]

Why are most of the posters denigrating the Governor? He's trying to get the RTA rate down for Pete's sake

[NE1]

40 minutes ago, George Aylesham said:

Why are most of the posters denigrating the Governor? He's trying to get the RTA rate down for Pete's sake

Which posts are they ?

[thailand49]

2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

In the UK most or all towns now have a posted speed limit of 20mph in built up areas. That's 32kph. In Thailand it is 80.

Speed limits philosophy is to control the flow of traffic here it is out of control. 

They an area I drive often east of Ban Saray,  never seen so much paint on the road it is as if some official saw some brochure from the west!  Bike lanes,  paint to guide you straight and around corners,  one moment paint on road go 60, a few feet away slow down curve after 60 again a few feet back slow 30 coffee shop entrance it is insane!

I don't think Thais are stupid it is the other way around their official at the Land Transport think so. 

[billd766]

6 hours ago, hotchilli said:

And there lays the answer.

Put in sleeping policemen, (it is what many of them do all day anyway) an put them every 5 metres apart for 500 metres each side of that corner. If that doesn't slow them down it will rip their suspensions apart and slow them that way.

 

As for those cars with lowered suspension, the drivers with intelligence won't use that road and those with loadsamoney will learn the second time they try it.

[digger70]

 The speed limit for this notorious 100-Deaths Curve  is  80 Km/hr

So I think that that is not a killer Curve .

I would say it's the incompetent drivers Fault Not the curve.

[fdimike]

Talk about gobbledygook.  The guy said absolutely nothing.  No sense in getting the BIB out there with a speed radar gun to help slow things down.  Nooooooooo that would be just too much trouble.

[The Hammer2021]

Yawn...another traffic  story..

[Liverpool Lou]

23 hours ago, George Aylesham said:

Why are most of the posters denigrating the Governor? He's trying to get the RTA rate down for Pete's sake

Because that's what they do when they're wearing their members' blinkers.

[BangkokReady]

On 6/4/2022 at 3:42 AM, webfact said:

One of his policies was to map out all risk points in all dimensions, both crimes, and accidents. This will lead to the consideration of the physical areas for adjustments as risk points and of the speed limit.

A good start, but not really the primary thing that needs addressing. 

 

He's obviously very popular and seen as being modern, liberal, progressive, etc., but I wonder how popular he would be if he told the truth and said it's probably the fault of the people driving.  ????‍♂️

[richard_smith237]

On 6/4/2022 at 7:25 AM, George Aylesham said:

Why are most of the posters denigrating the Governor? He's trying to get the RTA rate down for Pete's sake

Because while the intentions are good....  the methods appear flawed. 

 

IF you have ever ridden down Ratchada Road none of it is dangerous, there are no sharp bends out of no-where.... But there are reckless and dangerous drivers. 

 

IF the governor wants to tackle road safety, great - but tackle it from an intelligent perspective...   The weak link is the untrained and unpoliced humans driving and riding...  speeding, drunk, on their phone etc etc with no fear of any penalty should things go wrong. 

 

The first step should be instigation of methods to educate and adequately the driving population. 

 

Roads also need some improvements as the surfaces are not great and there are too many stationary objects close to the edge of the roads so that when an accident does happen there is usually a hard ‘deadly’ impact....   but that is so in any town or city worldwide...

 

Lack of helmet use is a major issue and numbers of lives could be saved by policing that.

Seat-belts...  that shouldn’t be an issue... when should city traffic be travelling at such a speed that seatbelts make the difference between life and death... the answer is never - again thats down to speeding and reckless drivers...  (note 5 occupants of the pickup died the vehicle was estimated as travelling at 120 kmh).

 

 

So... Yes... Good intentions by the governor, but we’d be naive think this is any more than a photo opportunity and a publicity stunt... certainly any of us who have seen this cycle repeated endlessly over the past 20 years or so our cynicism is to be expected.