webfact Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Cap: Daytime danger Sanook reported on an alarming case of alleged rape of a woman who works as a PR for an alcohol firm who claimed she was raped by a Bangkok area cabbie last Saturday morning in Bang Bua Thong, Nonthaburi. She has warned all women about getting into taxis especially if drunk even in the light of day. The driver - now in custody - denied rape and other charges laid against him. Sanook reported that the Bang Bua Thong police yesterday arrested Pholawat, 32, on a charge of forcible rape when the victim was unable to resist, drug taking (Class 1) and theft. He was picked up at his house in Khu Rat, Bang Bua Thong on a warrant. CCTV showed him picking up a woman dressed in a black outfit with black shots carrying a white bag at 8 am on June 4th on Kanchanaphisek Road outside Bang Yai City. A second piece of CCTV evidence was at 8.52 when the ride ended on the Bang Kruay to Sai Noi Road and she got out. "B" 28, said she works for an alcohol company as a PR woman. She was already drunk when she went to continue drinking at a friend's house in a housing estate in the area. Picture: Sanook At 7.40 am she decided to go home, got in a taxi and promptly passed out. She said that when she awoke her shorts and panties had been removed and she was lying on the back seat and the driver was raping her. After this he took her to the Bang Kruay to Sai Noi Road. Pholawat admitted taking her and said she had been asleep the whole way and he used his hand to try and wake her. But he got aroused and stroked her leg. He then went to a deserted area leading up to a snooker hall. She wouldn't wake up. He got into the back with her and removed her shorts and panties but then she woke up and said she was pregnant so he stopped and put her lower garments back on and just asked her to use her hand to make him climax. He claimed that as he was about to climax he pushed her hand away but she insisted on continuing. He said he was just a guy who got aroused and there was no forced rape involved. Picture: Sanook The victim said that she came up with the pregnant story to make him stop. She said that after the rape he took her to the main road and left stealing her phone. She then went to the police. She warned other women that even in broad daylight not to trust taxi drivers and this person was a menace to society who she intended to see prosecuted to the full extent of the law. She said that since the incident she has been on drugs to prevent disease and anti-depressants and has been unable to work for days what with the stress of it all. She was happy with the police's work but wished it had never happened. She wondered how such a man with so many charges against him could get a taxi licence. The driver denied all charges. He has been prosecuted in the past for a string of drug taking and drug possession charges in Taopoon, Chana Songkhram and Khok Kham police jurisdictions as well as a charge of breaking curfew. He was detained and police opposed bail. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-06-10 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Easiest way to own or rent a car in Thailand - click here to find out more! Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 I blame both of them and the Police. Her for getting stupid drunk; him for being a consistant Drug Menace and Rapist and the Police for allowing this Man to continue as a Taxi Driver with multiple Drug Offences to his name. She wants him punished to 'the full extent of the law' but we know what that means...1,000 Baht fine and back to work the next day as if nothing happened ! 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Totster Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, trainman34014 said: I blame both of them and the Police. Her for getting stupid drunk; him for being a consistant Drug Menace and Rapist and the Police for allowing this Man to continue as a Taxi Driver with multiple Drug Offences to his name. She wants him punished to 'the full extent of the law' but we know what that means...1,000 Baht fine and back to work the next day as if nothing happened ! Really, you blame her for being raped?? Do you live in the 1950's? ???? totster ???? 18 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, trainman34014 said: I blame both of them and the Police. Her for getting stupid drunk; him for being a consistant Drug Menace and Rapist and the Police for allowing this Man to continue as a Taxi Driver with multiple Drug Offences to his name. She wants him punished to 'the full extent of the law' but we know what that means...1,000 Baht fine and back to work the next day as if nothing happened ! Blaming a victim for being raped, stupidity at best. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 That's good PR from the woman who works for an alcohol company, in PR , regards Worgeordie 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boomer6969 Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Blaming a victim for being raped, stupidity at best. I thought he said "I blame both of them and the Police. Her for getting stupid drunk; ". 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Boomer6969 said: I thought he said "I blame both of them and the Police. Her for getting stupid drunk; ". So that means he blames her. People get drunk, got nothing to do with being raped. A taxi driver has to take you to your destination safely, not raping you whatever your condition is. Is that so difficult to understand? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, trainman34014 said: She wants him punished to 'the full extent of the law' but we know what that means...1,000 Baht fine and back to work the next day as if nothing happened ! So asinine. Since when have "we all known" that the punishment for rape and theft is "nothing more than a B1000 fine?" Edited June 10, 2022 by Liverpool Lou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 We all know she was careless and reckless with her own safety. A realistic view of the world makes us realise that we need to take caution. But, that does not mean those who don’t should be blamed for their naivety. One person only is to blame for the rape. This is guys excuse makes it sound that he doesn’t even know what he did was wrong. One of the key issues here is the way these issues are handled and excused. Responsibility is of course a grey area, the woman should have been more responsible to protect herself. But society should ask the question, why should she have to ? she should be free to get in a taxi in a bikini at 4am and still feel safe - sadly we don’t live in that world. ----- While I was dating my now Wife (who lived with her parents), she either drove, or, if we wanted to drink I took her home to her parents house in a taxi - she didn’t want to take a taxi alone at night, and I wouldn’t let her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 So it was like 7 o’clock in the morning and this lady is already drunk and gets into a taxi where is the taxi driver gets aroused and gets a hand job or something that he still has your phone I’m sure the taxi driver will come up with an unbelievable excuse for his actions TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xtrnuno41 Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 hours ago, webfact said: He claimed that as he was about to climax he pushed her hand away but she insisted on continuing Huh?? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohyesuare Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said: Huh?? Better for him to just finish that way so he can't prolong the rape in other ways is why I assume she would do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 PR woman! She was/ is probably a 'Pretty' which is a job title here for women working in promotional work which is not public relations. The headline has probably been changed for whatever reason by someone who lacks English language skills and for some reason does not want to use the term 'Pretty'. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidneyw Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 6 hours ago, webfact said: She wondered how such a man with so many charges against him could get a taxi licence. A prerequisite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 6 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: So that means he blames her. People get drunk, got nothing to do with being raped. A taxi driver has to take you to your destination safely, not raping you whatever your condition is. Is that so difficult to understand? Well he also said: "him for being a consistant Drug Menace and Rapist and the Police for allowing this Man to continue as a Taxi Driver with multiple Drug Offences to his name." Is that so difficult to understand? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) He said. She said. She was probably attractive, and clearly drunk. He's a man. I would say that many of us have had to spurn the advances of drunk women before. His story sounds believable. Thai men can be awful. Thai women are often attractive... and 'pretties' especially so. There's no clear answer here, but many members will automatically blame the taxi driver. Edited June 10, 2022 by 2long 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) "He has been prosecuted in the past for a string of drug taking and drug possession charges in Taopoon, Chana Songkhram and Khok Kham police jurisdictions as well as a charge of breaking curfew. " This does not make him a morning rapist. Edited June 10, 2022 by 2long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Boomer6969 said: I thought he said "I blame both of them and the Police. Her for getting stupid drunk; ". Yes. That is blaming her. Would you blame a man for getting raped because he was drunk? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgard Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 hours ago, trainman34014 said: I blame both of them and the Police. Her for getting stupid drunk; him for being a consistant Drug Menace and Rapist and the Police for allowing this Man to continue as a Taxi Driver with multiple Drug Offences to his name. She wants him punished to 'the full extent of the law' but we know what that means...1,000 Baht fine and back to work the next day as if nothing happened ! What the hell has the police todo with a taxi driver license? NOTHING!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said: Well he also said: "him for being a consistant Drug Menace and Rapist and the Police for allowing this Man to continue as a Taxi Driver with multiple Drug Offences to his name." Is that so difficult to understand? I don't care what he also said, I take offense in blaming her. That is something you fail to grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, 2long said: He said. She said. She was probably attractive, and clearly drunk. He's a man. I would say that many of us have had to spurn the advances of drunk women before. His story sounds believable. Thai men can be awful. Thai women are often attractive... and 'pretties especially so. There's no clear answer here, but many members will automatically blame the taxi driver. Yes they will quite rightly blame the rapist for his actions. Being an attractive woman does not make you rape fodder "I would say that many of us have had to spurn the advances of drunk women before." You might say that but I suspect the reverse is true- it's drunk men pestering women. Anway you seem confused. Spurn them or rape them? Which is it? Do you know the difference? Many people would consider your views a form of toxic victim blaming and an excuse for not just a terrible act of violence but a betrayal of trust. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hellfire said: PRostitute? No A 'pretty'. You obviously don't know much about Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Yes they will quite rightly blame the rapist for his actions. Being an attractive woman does not make you rape fodder "I would say that many of us have had to spurn the advances of drunk women before." You might say that but I suspect the reverse is true- it's drunk men pestering women. Anway you seem confused. Spurn them or rape them? Which is it? Do you know the difference? Many people would consider your views a form of toxic victim blaming and an excuse for not just a terrible act of violence but a betrayal of trust. 'his actions' are not confirmed. Nor are hers. I have certainly drunkenly pestered women in my past. Have you? Thanks, and yes... i know the difference. I know I have spurned drunken women, but raped no one. How about you? 'many would consider' is your opinion. We don't know what happened. That's all I'm saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Yes. That is blaming her. Would you blame a man for getting raped because he was drunk? Well I'd blame anyone who gets so drunk he/she passes out in a cab at 8am. I see it as inappropriate behaviour. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: women flashing any shoulder or knee.. Yeah, just flashing her knee! Or being absolutely unconscious in the public place after consuming 1 liter of alcohol? Edited June 10, 2022 by Hellfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: They are incorrectly confused with sex workers by some people. Is it "incorrectly" if the reason they get "confused" with sex workers is due to some of them indulging in sex work on the side? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 53 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Yes. That is blaming her. Would you blame a man for getting raped because he was drunk? Probably. If a man got drunk and was robbed, people would blame the man for being drunk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said: Well I'd blame anyone who gets so drunk he/she passes out in a cab at 8am. I see it as inappropriate behaviour. I wouldn't say "blame" per se, but it is a very unwise thing to do, regardless of gender, and I would advise against it. I'm sure most people would at least think "why oh why did you do that?". It is, unfortunately, very difficult to tread the line between warning people to be responsible and saying they are to blame for what happened to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Probably. If a man got drunk and was robbed, people would blame the man for being drunk. Even if some man was raped - they would blame the man in the first place. For him totally losing control of himself. Edited June 10, 2022 by Hellfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Hellfire said: Yeah, just flashing her knee! Or being absolutely unconcious in the public place after consuming 1 liter of alcohol? She was wearing shorts, fell asleep in a taxi... It was also 8 am, so assume so assume she was extremely tired and, yes, drunk. Is any of that deserving of sexual assault / rape ?... of course not. Did she place herself at risk? yes.... but that does not place the blame on her. If we live in a society whereby we think... well, what did she expect, wearing shorts and drunk?... then something is very very wrong with society. So blame, no - defiantly not. But she was silly and naive not to be more careful knowing sad and disappointing realises of normalisation and attitudes towards sexual assault in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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