Marijuana latest: PM says everyone concerned - Anutin exasperated over "overdose" reports amid recreational use

[internationalism]

already sorted.

Why net for the bill to become law within the next week or so?

 

"The Royal Gazette published a Public Health Ministry announcement classifying smoke from cannabis and hemp as olfactory "nuisance" Tuesday night. The announcement is effective today.

This was followed by a warning from the ministry that smoking marijuana can cause asthma and lung diseases. Marijuana for medical purposes was decriminalized on Thursday but some are now smoking for recreational purposes.

Violators could face a fine of up to 25,000 baht and/or jail terms of up to three months under Public Health Act."

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[LivinLOS]

4 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

I suspect we will be seeing some very "public" raids of dispensaries selling the real stuff shortly. The background display boards are being printed and pointing sticks polished as we speak.

Until hey make a law that this is illegal, draft it, publish it in the royal gazette and time passes for it to become law.. 

They are doing nothing wrong.. You cannot raid a legal business.. 

IF they change the law sure.. If they have extracts sure.. But the law is open now. 

[malibukid]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yup what he said, Genies out of the bottle, gonna be hard to stuff it back in, but then this is Thailand the land of Flip Flops where folks get caught out because something changed and they had no idea....fine money ready.....

classic bait and switch.

[whereyougo]

I remember when That girl overdosed and made national headlines the knee jerk reaction was to put tramadol on controlled list. 

Lets see what happens here

[Tarteso]

????????????

[Chongalulu]

59 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Then he told them: "Don't interfere in politics".

One of the most worrying statements I have ever read.......it is essential that the free press.'interferes' in politics.......by which he means comment.

Indeed a revealing and sinister insight into his mindset when opening his mouth in an uncontrolled moment. Perhaps the response should have been ' don’t interfere in medical matters when you have no qualifications in this specialist area"…

[internationalism]

16 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

Indeed a revealing and sinister insight into his mindset when opening his mouth in an uncontrolled moment. Perhaps the response should have been ' don’t interfere in medical matters when you have no qualifications in this specialist area"…

but dr Anutin doesn't have any level of medical training.

More likely some of the journalists have medical qualifications and knowledge, than himself 

Edited June 15, 2022 by internationalism

[apetryxx]

What did they expect would happen? As if drunk driving wasn’t a problem enough.

[johnmcc6]

you cannot overdose on weed. you either fall asleep or fall out  of your chair.

[fondue zoo]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I suspect we won't, and any police trying it on will quickly be moved to inactive posts.

There's a lot of very important Thai people expecting to make a lot of money from this, get in their way and you'll be quickly silenced by whatever means.

That is definitely true, I was more referring to the recreational "activists" that have begun selling openly, they may be feeling the heat soon ..which is sad if it happens.

[spidermike007]

Very typical of this man, who is as thin skinned, and sensitive to criticism as any leader out there. Except perhaps tiny Vlad. Real men can handle criticism, and real men stick to their positions. Now he says:

 

"Recreational use is wrong," he said. "If there are people doing that then it will be sorted out in time."

 

OK. So you have finally admitted this. And why are your simple minded underlings talking about making Thailand a cannabis destination, when outdoor smoking is prohibited, and so is recreational use of the stuff? Confusion reigns. Confusion is what Prayuth does best. It is something one often sees, accompanied by a terrible leader, with little ability. 

[sambum]

"Why bring up the overdose issue now?," he stormed. "Why not before?................"

 

Because you have just legalised it - wally!!!

 

 

[JimboB4]

That’s it I’m unsubscribing from this misinformation network. I buy it all the time there are no issues with it at all you all are literally the only ones trying to create one lol. Btw just received my package of 22% THC OG KUSH from one of the legal shops actually in the mail now. They have totally removed the restrictions and I see certain people don’t like that lol. Decriminalized means they don’t ask questions I’m glad Autin fought back good for him. Good for Thailand for legalizing weed totally. 

[ThaiVisaCentre]

5 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

I suspect we will be seeing some very "public" raids of dispensaries selling the real stuff shortly. The background display boards are being printed and pointing sticks polished as we speak.

There is currently no regulation on potency of weed/cannabis.

 

However extracts from cannabis containing more than 0.2% THC is still a Category 5 Narcotic.

 

Theres a ton of confusion around this topic, but here is an example of what the 0.2% rule applies to

The reason being is that all extracts can possibly consist of 100% THC, as it is a concentrated form and extremely strong.

Concentrates also can be easily infused into food, and drinks as well which has its own sets of potency rules.

As it currently stands theres nothing wrong with planting a high THC strain of cannabis. 

Also it's worth noting that medical/therapeutic uses are not exclusive to CBD, and extend to THC as well.

 

I look forward to better regulation on labeling, and what is inside the actual products, and if they were grown by a licensed grower, as well as what products were used during cultivation (like pesticides).

 

Edited June 15, 2022 by ThaiVisaCentre

[sansaihashbars]

May the forces of rational thinking be with you Khun Anutin. 

[wombat]

all those 3000+ prisoners that were released would have to report back to jail if it was put back on the narcotics list

[wombat]

well goodness me ...and where is this candy store pray tell?

[Burma Bill]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai PM Prayuth Chan-ocha who essentially washed his hands of the issue saying that it was health minister and DPM Anutin Charnvirakul's baby. 

Another flip flop coming making marijuana illegal again - brilliant!!!

[Denim]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

He said: "The government is concerned. I'm concerned. Everyone is concerned. Listen to him (Anutin)".

You can lead dinosaurs to water but you can't make them smoke.

[JimboB4]

First of all everyone knows you can’t “overdose” on weed lol, TVF it’s a medical impossibility. You all are just tripping over this aren’t you. Gotta go it’s 420 time and yes it’s for medical usage I have the certificate from the doctor allowing me to possess this. 

[ThaiVisaCentre]

10 minutes ago, wombat said:

well goodness me ...and where is this candy store pray tell?

This is all illegal in Thailand as it is a Category 5 Narcotic, and may still be extracted with the proper licenses, and/or for export but for use to infuse into other things at the 0.2%. 

 

Stay away from anything in the picture above if you wish to follow the laws of Thailand.

 

You can find those things easily available in California for example, but keep in mind that cannabis in the US is behind Thailand as it is Federally illegal still. It will be very interesting to see how the market in Thailand evolves especially considering they have not imposed any rules, and seem to be letting the dust settle before doing so.
 

Edited June 15, 2022 by ThaiVisaCentre

[robsamui]

So now Thailand is the bud hub of the galaxy.
BUD-HUB, BUD-HUB, BUDHUB BUDHUB BUDHUB BUD-DUBBLY DOOOOOOO . . . .
Say it out loud two or three times . . . 

It's either another FIRST for astonishing Thailand or I'm hearing pink panthers.
Prolly caused by that ganja leaf that I overdosed on.

[10baht]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

"The government is concerned. I'm concerned. Everyone is concerned. Listen to him (Anutin)".

Let's get some concern about the Thai Pass!!!!????

[Noah K]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

"Recreational use is wrong"

So, does my opinion matter as I am only a guest here in Thailand? I am retired, and as a retiree everything I do is recreational. I sometimes ride my motorbike just for recreation, is that wrong? People do die in motorbike accidents. I have friends over for the weekend, we BBQ chicken and drink beer just for recreation, is that wrong? People do die from drinking. I love to swim just for recreation, is that wrong? People do drown from swimming. I love flying to Phuket to enjoy the beach just for recreation, is that wrong? People do die each year from plane crashes. I could go on and on, but the fact is that you can die from just about anything, even drinking too much water or over eating can kill you. If we were to make everything that can kill you, against the law, than there would be nothing left to do legally. I ask you all to look around you to see what is going on in the world. From the unprovoked war in Ukraine, to the senseless school shootings in the U.S. From the flooding along the coastlines, to the droughts in our heartlands. From the still present global pandemic to the rise in preventable diseases. Don't we have better things to worry about then whether or not recreational use of cannabis is wrong? It's a natural growing plant that has probably been here long before humans.

[vivananahuahin]

7 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Making marijuana legal doesn't mean you have to partake in it's consumption.

 

If people choose to consume it then they have to except that there maybe potential risks to their health.

it is like the vaccines, you know it is a drug in trial you accept it ok but the risks are for you.

[Excel]

2 minutes ago, Noah K said:

So, does my opinion matter as I am only a guest here in Thailand? I am retired, and as a retiree everything I do is recreational. I sometimes ride my motorbike just for recreation, is that wrong? People do die in motorbike accidents. I have friends over for the weekend, we BBQ chicken and drink beer just for recreation, is that wrong? People do die from drinking. I love to swim just for recreation, is that wrong? People do drown from swimming. I love flying to Phuket to enjoy the beach just for recreation, is that wrong? People do die each year from plane crashes. I could go on and on, but the fact is that you can die from just about anything, even drinking too much water or over eating can kill you. If we were to make everything that can kill you, against the law, than there would be nothing left to do legally. I ask you all to look around you to see what is going on in the world. From the unprovoked war in Ukraine, to the senseless school shootings in the U.S. From the flooding along the coastlines, to the droughts in our heartlands. From the still present global pandemic to the rise in preventable diseases. Don't we have better things to worry about then whether or not recreational use of cannabis is wrong? It's a natural growing plant that has probably been here long before humans.

Well I can agree partially with many of your comments but then your arguments regarding cannabis surely would also be applicable to opium, where do you draw the line ?

[MrJ2U]

Never heard of  "overdosing" on marijuana.

 

Perhaps it's people just wanting to regulate the stuff so that they can control it and then profit from it.  

 

It's similar to the alcohol regulations.

Just a few families are allowed to reap the profits.

[marin]

This makes me die laughing. Made me go look up this Gary Larson cartoon from over 30 years ago. Was made simply as a joke answer to an age old question. But it reality sums up the scene pretty well here. 555

[Noah K]

24 minutes ago, Excel said:

Well I can agree partially with many of your comments but then your arguments regarding cannabis surely would also be applicable to opium, where do you draw the line ?

Intelligent, rational, compassionate, sensible, ethical, empathetic people with the ability to use their brain properly, don't abuse anything let alone an highly addictive drug in the same way we don't abuse pharmaceutical opioids. Oh wait, it seems that some people do, however, it's still available, and people are still dying from them, so there really is no line to draw.

[Dogmatix]

8 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Hang in there Khun Anutin, don't give in to the agents of disinformation. The hysteria regarding the "overdose" is a prime example of media disinformation. Nowhere did I read about the deceased persons general medical history and other issues he had. Highly misleading. A fair comparison would be with how many people in Bangkok died after having consumed alcohol in the previous 24 hours? More than 1?

 

 I note the other story is the police saying there were no reports of traffic accidents caused by the legalization. To give perspective they should have said in the 4 days since legalization how many traffic accidents were caused by alcohol. None? A couple? Dozens? Fatalities? If weed is to be compared to alcohol surely in the 4 days there will be some interesting data allowing fair comparisons.

 

Come on Anutin.  You did a great job explaining how most of the people who died after Sinovac jabs actually died of something else because they were obese and had many pre-existing conditions.  Get to it.