Harrowing scene as Canadian cries for his dead wife at early morning accident in Kanchanaburi

[jvs]

2 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

MY condolence to Joseph.  Thai roads are not safe period. especially the side roads.

 

The questions are  going to be asked and no one  here really cares.

 

Does anyone think the roads are going to get any safer  now that Thais are legally allowed to smoke weed.

 

 

Do you think the roads will be less safe?And why?

 

[JesusonaPogoStick]

Don't understand the "driving at speed" thing. How fast was the "kid" driving on thus road? He must've been going pretty darn fast. Terrible situation. 

[VocalNeal]

4 minutes ago, Noljam said:

Walking can be a dangerous experience I nearly get run over every 2nd or 3rd day pedestrian crossings and traffic signals mean nothing as far as a Thai is concerned these are just lines and the road and lights on a pole and can be driven through at any time.

It is good that you have recognized this and act accordingly.

[audaciousnomad]

"He later saw the Canadian woman begin to cross the road on her bicycle and honked to warn her that it was dangerous.  "

 

Driver intentionally steps on gas pedal.
Driver sees cyclist, intentionally presses horn.
Driver intentionally expects her to move out of the way.
Driver intentionally refrains from braking until the last minute.

 

Accident?  

[Harveyboy]

2 hours ago, Excel said:

Yet another Thai male using their pick-ups as a lethal weapon. Along with sex offenders they should be castrated so that they can not pass their defective genes on in my opinion.

yes it seems if you have a pick up it gives you the god given right to speed 

2 days ago  almost met my maker due to a pick up.on beach road came along racing must have been 70 km plus

 he missed me by inches the he sounded his horn at which time i just managed to reach the pavement i raised my arms and shouted slow down at which the locals looked at me as if to say ..what's wrong  why you shout..

i hope they put the guy away who Murdered this lady for a long time but we know that won't happen RIP to the lady in question and sincere condolences to the husband 

[NanLaew]

Another example of their driving dip<deleted>ery this morning coming back from the second school run. That irresistible rush they have to cut a blind corner or to turn early at a junction, ahead of oncoming traffic so that they enter on the totally wrong side of the centerline. As someone suggested earlier, these tricks maybe inculcated from driving recklessly on 2-wheels without regard to how much bigger their bloody car is.

 

ABS, floods and airhorns getting plenty exercise today.

[harrycallahan]

PM sets target of zero lives lost in Thailand by 2050 with a two-thirds reduction in fatalities by 2027

 

If with everyone in self-driving cars that seems optimistic, to say the least. 

[Speedhump]

How is it a 'freak' accident, just the usual motor vehicle/bicycle tragedy, carelessness on one or both sides. So sad. I told my wife long ago that we are never riding bicycles in Thailand. The combination of careless driving (certainly not only by Thais) and terrible or nonexistent road repairs make most two/three wheeled vehicles potential deathtraps. 

[RayOday]

1 hour ago, dallen52 said:

A total lack of policing and driver education is a way of life in Thailand. 

Until they start enforcing the laws and hitting the hip pocket nerve, they will never change.

What level of experience and training do the police have?

About as much as the parachute jump badge they wear...

The most accurate observation of the day. The RTP know nothing about road enforcement. Prove me wrong. 

[shackleton]

There should be a notice given to Tourists when they arrive  in Thailand 

Advise

Don't cycle on the roads probably could say the same about motor bikes 

As well

[Gecko123]

I was always taught that any time there is a situation where you might have to brake suddenly, you should shift your foot off the accelerator and move it over the brake pedal without actually depressing the brake pedal, in order to speed up reaction time.

 

I have sometimes wondered if part of the reason why Thais never seem to do this (besides terrible defensive driving education) is because if you are wearing flip-flop sandals and move your foot sideways there's a risk that the sandal will drop away from the foot and get blocked by or caught under the brake pedal. Just wanted to take a moment to remind people that flipflops are a poor footwear choice for motoring.

 

My sincere condolences to the husband and her family.

 

Edited June 20, 2022 by Gecko123

[Robert Tyrrell]

Good Morning ????,

 

Thailand roads are very dangerous, This is why there rated #2 In the world ???? For high road fatalities !! And little consequences and lack of Law Enforcement !! 
My Thai wife’s Aunt was killed by a driver clearly speeding not to mention being in a school zone speeding.

The driver says there sorry’s and gives the family some money and walks away Scott FREE !!

Im American ???????? Retired in Thailand, In America ???????? That’s considered

Vehicular Homicide and in a school zone on top of it you’d definitely be doing jail time and paying fines and Civil Lawsuit filed against you by the family.

[RandiRona]

Really terrible...came here for vacation and lost his wife....people say whateve....Riding 2 wheels is strict NO for anyone who hasn't driven or know road conditions of Thailand!

[mvdf]

The notoriety is in the color. 

[RafPinto]

RIP

 

 

[Neeranam]

Very disrespectful reporting the man was crying. 

[Neeranam]

17 minutes ago, Robert Tyrrell said:

Good Morning ????,

 

Thailand roads are very dangerous, This is why there rated #2 In the world ???? For high road fatalities !! And little consequences and lack of Law Enforcement !! 
My Thai wife’s Aunt was killed by a driver clearly speeding not to mention being in a school zone speeding.

The driver says there sorry’s and gives the family some money and walks away Scott FREE !!

Im American ???????? Retired in Thailand, In America ???????? That’s considered

Vehicular Homicide and in a school zone on top of it you’d definitely be doing jail time and paying fines and Civil Lawsuit filed against you by the family.

Please learn that you are not in Kansas anymore. 

The rest of the world has a different culture to the US and personal values differ.

I read yesterday that the US needs armed guards at all their school, now that's screwed up. 

[TKDfella]

My condolences to the lady's husband. very sad indeed.

There are quite a few cyclists, both Thai foreigner, that use the narrow lane where I live. and the pickups and cars whizzing by my gate give the cyclist as about as much consideration as the (invisible) air in front of them. Although there have been no fatalities there have been several 'mishaps'. On one occasion a mother of two children a couple of houses from me said that she got the several bruises and abrasions on her arms from a pickup entering the lane and just behind her. It clipped the handle bars and she ended up in some bushes.

 

[cheapcanuck]

Humm...if you have time to honk your horn you have time to step on the breaks.

[transam]

Push-bikes and Thai road manners do not mix well....

 

R.I.P. ....????

[spidermike007]

Police at the scene with 50-year-old Canadian Joseph S. on Saturday morning after his 49-year-old wife was killed tragically in a freak road traffic accident when a pickup driver, travelling at speed, hit Mrs Marine S. as she cycled after her husband while crossing the road near a resort they were staying at in Kanchanaburi.

 

Totally false. There was nothing freaky about this accident. It happens alot here. There is a hierarchy of vehicles. Trucks always have the right of way, as they are the largest. Then minivans, and pickup trucks. Then cars. Then motorbikes. Bicycles are the lowest on the list, along with pedestrians. Many drivers refuse to yield to you. A social scientist, or a psychologist could spend a year breaking this social phenomenon down. I consider most Thais to be polite. But, once they get behind a wheel, all bets are off. 

 

The woman was hit by a pickup driver travelling at speed who failed to stop on time after honking at the woman as she cycled her bike across the road behind her husband.

 

So, what was this all about. Obviously the pickup driver saw the woman. No excuses there. Was it possible she just did not look, before crossing the road, or under estimated his speed? Did he make an attempt to stop, or swerve to avoid her? There are some unanswered questions here. Many years ago, I attempted to cross a road, and not being that familiar with this insane driving, I nearly got killed. Always use a crosswalk or bridge. And always cross at corners, if possible. And most of all be cautious, always look both ways, and always allow a substantial distance, as a margin of safety. Survival here depends on smarts, good common sense and being very careful. Drivers here yield to few cars or motorbikes or bicycles.

 

It always astonishes me here how the average Thai person behaves, once you put them behind the wheel of a car or truck. Most seem quite kind and considerate. Until they get into their cars. When I was growing up and learning to drive, I remember so much of what my lovely mother taught me. She had so much wisdom, and was a very kind and respectful woman. She was constantly emphasizing the need to be courteous to other drivers, and pedestrians. She imparted alot of wisdom. I wonder how many Thais get that kind of coaching and inspiration from their folks.

[khunpa]

Although it take nothing to pass a driving-test here, this will never change until the traffic-police gets on the road and start doing their actual job.
 

People drive like crazy because they know there is no police and no fines.

 

 

[0815]

Just a few days ago when out on the motorbike I nearly run into a group of cyclists (foreigners ...) after a curve on a country road as they were cycling 3 next to each other instead in a line.
When I told them this would be quite silly, I just got the middle finger and a friendly FY.
Wait for a speeding truck guys !

[Expat68]

4 hours ago, bristolgeoff said:

You have to be very careful when riding a bicycle anywhere thailand is no different.respect the bigger vehicle anywhere do that and you will be ok

Even on designated bicycle paths, in my city there are more motorcycles on them than bicycles

[Cake Monster]

3 hours ago, Deli said:

Riding a bycicle in Thaland is a sign of insanity, if not in a very isolated place. 

And even when there are dedicated Cycle Ways for the riders to enjoy, I very often see them on the Roadways right next to the Cycle Way.

Why invite potential trouble for yourself doing this.

Insane ? Yes, very much so.

[LikeItHot]

Many people, especially Thais, fail to realize then when a truck and bicycle or motorcycle or a pedestrian disagree the truck always wins.  This is why there are weight classes in boxing. Slow down. Always give way to an exposed person on the road.

[sead]

4 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

Bristol,

 

why don’t you answer the question the other way around….

 

why is there no respect for bicyclists by car drivers here?

 

I know a number of cyclists in my own compound…a question of respect or fear? They won’t ride with me in the surrounding villages b/c of immense fear about driving behaviors here….they won’t leave our own moobaan…it has nothing to do with cyclists’ respect.

Because they are not taught about it in the 3h video when you're taking your license. I don't remember there was anything about letting pedestrians go first

Edited June 20, 2022 by sead

[Road Warrior]

ow very good for the tourist trade . hope the idiot Moran driver gets manslaughter charge with 7 yrs in jail .

bet not !!!  RIP  to the female cyclist -- so sad

[Road Warrior]

23 minutes ago, khunpa said:

Although it take nothing to pass a driving-test here, this will never change until the traffic-police gets on the road and start doing their actual job.
 

People drive like crazy because they know there is no police and no fines.

 

 

agree 100%  total morins speeding or drunk 

[LikeItHot]

25 minutes ago, khunpa said:

Although it take nothing to pass a driving-test here, this will never change until the traffic-police gets on the road and start doing their actual job.
 

People drive like crazy because they know there is no police and no fines.

 

 

Exactly. Again, for the naysayers, corruption impacts us all daily.