stoner Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Dunno if this is top grade, but at 5kbht for 100gm (50bht/gm) it looks pretty good (OG BKK) . can't
Trippy Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Yagoda said: Top shelf should be around 30 baht a gram wholesale. Yep, and a brand new car should cost 10,000 baht. I'm dreaming too, 555 Seriously though, have you ever grown indoors? Just the electric here will cost you more than 30 baht a gram.
Yagoda Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, stoner said: please post some pics of this top grade 30b a gram flower. the grower is barely breaking even at that price and in most cases would be losing money. very little of what is grown locally here is considered top grade flower. most is mids. not trying to be bad mannered or anything just going with what i know. Post a pic? What are you looking for, tight buds, frosties, macro photos? It looks like that posed by BritMan. Its all about the smoke tho, innit? And how do you know the grower is barely breaking even? If you are an established, experienced and set up grower and not making a profit at 30B then maybe you need to evaluate your operation. As to top shelf, I should have clarified my original post. Top grade flower is a marketing tool. In the states, they run the lab tests and whatever shows the most THC is marketed as top shelf. But its a plant. Yes, THC levels are important but at the amounts in flower its the entire chemical profile combined with the users experience level for one to really evaluate "top shelf". However, the production of "top shelf" (high THC levels) will entail higher production costs for reasons that all growers know, which adds to the wholesale costs of "top shelf", where the only difference is newness, fancy names, and a few points of THC percentage. Thats in the States. They don't do lab tests here. They make up names. They use autoflower. So who is to consider what is "topshelf"? I have been smoking weed since 1968. I have run through every Weed shop up and down Sukhumvit and Khao San and elsewhere. I have had "topshelf" experiences on cheap weed and meh on expensive and not to often vice versa. My fav strains in the USA arent considered "topshelf" to the marketing gurus, but I smoke 24/7 and my user experience is different than yours. The only thing that anchors me to the couch anymore are the pure Rosins we get in Cambodia. The best analogy for weed is vodka. You got rot gut (compressed brick) and everything else. Its all good. 1 1
Yagoda Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Trippy said: Yep, and a brand new car should cost 10,000 baht. I'm dreaming too, 555 Seriously though, have you ever grown indoors? Just the air con here will cost you more than 30 baht a gram. Yes and its all good mate, but hey, back to retail: FatBoys down in Ekkamai has great prices on weed in 25g quantities, good place. Maybe 200g? Talk to the dude from Chicago.. The White Wedding was a nice smoke. Happy Cannabis in Bang Pho has great pricing. You can work the woner there and he gets some decent strains. The young man on the corner of Soi Arab and Sukhumvit has Moon Rocks at like 150B. 1
stoner Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Post a pic? What are you looking for, tight buds, frosties, macro photos? It looks like that posed by BritMan. those pics are not of top shelf flower. 15 minutes ago, Yagoda said: So who is to consider what is "topshelf"? i think that true master growers can give this kind of judgement. when i met one last year my whole world changed. master grower. growing a minimum number of years - i would say 15 would be bare min. loads of experience with commercial size grows. and most importantly the education in the proper sciences to back it up. without this one i rarely consider someone a master grower anymore. i personally have been growing for about 13 years now and would not consider myself a master grower at all. not even close. and i do quite well. 1
Popular Post Yagoda Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, stoner said: those pics are not of top shelf flower. i think that true master growers can give this kind of judgement. when i met one last year my whole world changed. master grower. growing a minimum number of years - i would say 15 would be bare min. loads of experience with commercial size grows. and most importantly the education in the proper sciences to back it up. without this one i rarely consider someone a master grower anymore. i personally have been growing for about 13 years now and would not consider myself a master grower at all. not even close. and i do quite well. Have you smoked it? If you havent, then how can you say that? Maybe its AAA or exotic or some other label some marketing guru made it. Each smoker decides whats top shelf. Who is a "master grower"? When some wierd stoner going for his Doc in plant genetics grows a five foot bud that is pretty and tasty and hardy, is he a "master grower"? How bout the Mexican dude grwing a commercial green house of Durban poison for 20 years, is he a Master? Is there like some Master Grower society we dont know about? It's A Plant. Not rocket science. A rose by any other name and all that. 2 1
NextG Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 8 hours ago, BritManToo said: Dunno if this is top grade, but at 5kbht for 100gm (50bht/gm) it looks pretty good (OG BKK) It states 8k baht on the picture…
BritManToo Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 9 hours ago, NextG said: It states 8k baht on the picture… That's just the picture ........ 1
NextG Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: That's just the picture ........ Discounts… we like those ???? 1
tomster Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 1:28 PM, Yagoda said: And how do you know the grower is barely breaking even? If you are an established, experienced and set up grower and not making a profit at 30B then maybe you need to evaluate your operation Indoor weed grown under lights in this country costs around 25-35 Baht a gram to produce to a high standard. If you scale you can go cheaper but then it's harder to control the quality, but for domestic growing that is what you pay to grow indoors. Outdoor can obviously be much cheaper, but it's harder to get a successful crop.
Yagoda Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 13 hours ago, tomster said: Indoor weed grown under lights in this country costs around 25-35 Baht a gram to produce to a high standard. If you scale you can go cheaper but then it's harder to control the quality, but for domestic growing that is what you pay to grow indoors. Outdoor can obviously be much cheaper, but it's harder to get a successful crop. Are you a grower too? Where do you get your numbers? What are your numbers based on? The cost of electric, seeeds, water, lights, bags, labor, hey dont forget all our cell phones and my Mercedes lease? I bet a lot of legit growers lose tons of money in the USA on each gram, especially the first few years when one expenses outright things like the Porsche with the weed patterned wrap (that the CPA peels off after he takes the photo to prove advertising cost). I dont quite understand why folks are arguing here. Did I offend somebody's sensibilities because I know about 30b quality weed in kilo lots? Hell, Mr. Brit Man showed you 50baht weed and you dont need to buy kilos. Whats the response? Oh its not top shelf.. But I know him and he is a weed maven and himself grows excellent weed. By the way, in determining "top shelf": How do you make your daily judgements in life, from pictures? If I did that, my fat ugly chick surprise ratio would be enormous. I recognize of course, that a picture of clear utter grossness is enough sometimes, one wouldnt send a message to a potential date that looked like Hillary Clinton would one? Just like one wouldnt even consider brick weed based on the picture of same. So I inviter any of the experts here to look at these pics, tell me is it top shelf in your opinion? How much did I pay for it then? How much would you pay for it? Is it a Sativa, Indica or hybrid? Crickets I bet. 1 1
Popular Post gargamon Posted July 30, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/26/2023 at 5:50 PM, Seppius said: I just ordered off here, their prices look great, and bonus for me have some really strong cheap Hash https://bkkushhh.com/shop/ Just got a selection of 3 grams to try, B420 including B50 delivery Placed an order for some kief from this site. They sent some low grade pot, still on the stems. No reasonable response when I questioned them about it. Avoid these guys. 1 2
BritManToo Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Yagoda said: one wouldnt send a message to a potential date that looked like Hillary Clinton would one? Off topic but ............... after a few tokes ........... 1
Seppius Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, gargamon said: Placed an order for some kief from this site. They sent some low grade pot, still on the stems. No reasonable response when I questioned them about it. Avoid these guys. I would say my experience was OK, but the same happened, no hash, so they sent something else, which smokes OK, but nothing to say what it was. Got the Moonrock I really like and at b120 Gram excellent, have seen this in shops 400 plus, also got soon Strawberry Banana B130 which again i thought excellent value Very poor communication, the website says login, but nowhere to register that I could find. I would use again as I like their prices
gargamon Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Seppius said: I would say my experience was OK, but the same happened, no hash, so they sent something else, which smokes OK, but nothing to say what it was. Got the Moonrock I really like and at b120 Gram excellent, have seen this in shops 400 plus, also got soon Strawberry Banana B130 which again i thought excellent value Very poor communication, the website says login, but nowhere to register that I could find. I would use again as I like their prices I only tried them as I typically only smoke homemade kief in Canada, and I wanted to try it here as it's a wonderful way to consume it. There's much better sources for bud/extracts than bkkushhh. PM me and I'll forward your info to my source. 1
stoner Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Yagoda said: Are you a grower too? Where do you get your numbers? What are your numbers based on? The cost of electric, seeeds, water, lights, bags, labor, hey dont forget all our cell phones and my Mercedes lease? I bet a lot of legit growers lose tons of money in the USA on each gram, especially the first few years when one expenses outright things like the Porsche with the weed patterned wrap (that the CPA peels off after he takes the photo to prove advertising cost). I dont quite understand why folks are arguing here. Did I offend somebody's sensibilities because I know about 30b quality weed in kilo lots? Hell, Mr. Brit Man showed you 50baht weed and you dont need to buy kilos. Whats the response? Oh its not top shelf.. But I know him and he is a weed maven and himself grows excellent weed. By the way, in determining "top shelf": How do you make your daily judgements in life, from pictures? If I did that, my fat ugly chick surprise ratio would be enormous. I recognize of course, that a picture of clear utter grossness is enough sometimes, one wouldnt send a message to a potential date that looked like Hillary Clinton would one? Just like one wouldnt even consider brick weed based on the picture of same. So I inviter any of the experts here to look at these pics, tell me is it top shelf in your opinion? How much did I pay for it then? How much would you pay for it? Is it a Sativa, Indica or hybrid? Crickets I bet. not top shelf. wouldn't buy it. was cut early as well. possibly outdoor i would need to see first hand. thc content not that high. or if you have test results that would be good. but it doesn't look too frosty. this is coming soon (w6 now) from our farm and i would consider it like b+ maybe. but it already looks worlds better than your posted pic. 1
Yagoda Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, stoner said: not top shelf. wouldn't buy it. was cut early as well. possibly outdoor i would need to see first hand. thc content not that high. or if you have test results that would be good. but it doesn't look too frosty. this is coming soon (w6 now) from our farm and i would consider it like b+ maybe. but it already looks worlds better than your posted pic. Dude saying you can tell how much THC is in a piece of weed by looking at a bad photo of a bud in a bag is like telling us that Joe Biden is honest. So how much would you pay for it? Thats a lovely photo. I see them all over the net, in fact it looks exactly like some big growers product. But hey, lets not get diverted with picture sources, neh. Anyway, with all due respect, I get the impression you are shoestring connected to some Thai who has a farm and you want to show us your expertise in order to drum up business. Thats fine, play the expert, but you arent fooling folks who are dedicated long term American stoners/growers. And its not "your" farm is it, that would be frowned upon. Your best bet in marketing is not diss other peoples choices. But hey no biggie to me, I'm not in the industry in the USA anymore. Im primarly a dabber on those days I need to be a sloth, and on the days I have to function I smoke whatever weed I can find that is cheap and tasty. Tasty is the key, since there is no weed in the world that will make me say, wow, thats good, Im so high, etc. It has to taste right to my palate. In fact, these days, I am mostly smoking Nepalese Hash just for the taste and nice relaxing high and because its sooo cheap for me. Im going to reiterate a point I may have made, if not, here it is: Top Shelf, Grade AAAA, THC 35%, body buzz, fruity taste, all of the marketing words and effects description are meaningless. You can knock a rookie out with bunk weed while an expert wont even catch more than a mild buzz. Some folks might taste the blueberries with notes of mung bean, others may choke. Im my prime, I could drink a whole bottle of vodka over the course of a night and not die, how about you. Nowadays, one drink makes me giggly. Its all about the consumer. Last week, I took a new dab strain that was quite potent (even to me) and put a semi rookie on the floor with it. He just slid off his seat. Me, I can still function. Is that top shelf dab then? Its a plant. Its like a BJ, some are better than others, but there aint no bad ones But here, enlighten us then as to the following picture of a bud in my hand. Just tell us about it. How much THC is in it? What grade is it? AA AAA A Mid, TopShelf, Exotic, Premium? Anyway, this is getting boring. Too much dick measuring over a plant. For newbies to the weed scene in Thailand, here is gratuitous advice from just a person with no chips in the game here. You should note that the industry is new, and many shops are simply arms of a big faceless corporation, think like MedMen in Cali. Others are fly by night Instagrammers or tourist tables selling crap to Asian weed tourists, although the Nepalese kid on the corner of Soi Arab has some nice Moon Rocks. If you are here as a tourist or even as a long termer and you are down in Falang-Land, try Fat Buds (?) in Ekkamai, there is an American dude there whose wife owns it. Thai Cannabis Club has decent pricing and lots of locations. Great for smoking and people watching. There is a place in Phra Kanong, that has quality product at a decent price. Happy Cannabis in Bang Pho has great deals and you deal with the owner, not an employee. But any independent shop off the main drag will work with you. Go in, buy a gram, you like it, cut a deal. Remember COGS, the fancier decorated shops charge more. When I see a shop I havent seen before, I walk in and check it out. Something looks and smells good, well buy a gram then. Ill do that even when I have a stash in my pocket (and the weed and dabs I smoke are usually free, I buy random anyway). Gram is good then cut a deal. No deal? Later bro. YMMV if you are from Europe where the quality is less and the costs are higher, and you mix it with tobacco, ugg, you can buy the table bricks ????
stoner Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Yagoda said: Thats a lovely photo. I see them all over the net, in fact it looks exactly like some big growers product. But hey, lets not get diverted with picture sources, neh. Anyway, with all due respect, I get the impression you are shoestring connected to some Thai who has a farm and you want to show us your expertise in order to drum up business. Thats fine, play the expert, but you arent fooling folks who are dedicated long term American stoners/growers. And its not "your" farm is it, that would be frowned upon. Your best bet in marketing is not diss other peoples choices. ahhhh i own a cannabis company here in thailand. yes this is my companies farm. not it is not a stock pic but thanks for the compliment. the rest of your rambling comment is just strange. thanks for all the other advice but i am well connected in the industry here in thailand. 7 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Last week, I took a new dab strain that was quite potent (even to me) and put a semi rookie on the floor with it. He just slid off his seat. Me, I can still function. Is that top shelf dab then? great news as i am also an extract artist myself. could you post a pic of these dabs and i will give you the low down. what strain name is the dab ? if you want i can go back in take that exact same pic and write your name and todays date on it just to set the record straight. hold on ima go do it now.
stoner Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 this should clear the air about the stock pic i posted yes ? please note the white card drastically changed the coloring of the pic when taken. you can clearly see it is the same flower though. 1
Yagoda Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, stoner said: ahhhh i own a cannabis company here in thailand. yes this is my companies farm. not it is not a stock pic but thanks for the compliment. the rest of your rambling comment is just strange. thanks for all the other advice but i am well connected in the industry here in thailand. great news as i am also an extract artist myself. could you post a pic of these dabs and i will give you the low down. what strain name is the dab ? if you want i can go back in take that exact same pic and write your name and todays date on it just to set the record straight. hold on ima go do it now. I didnt know falang could own an agricultural company. Learn something new every day. Put it back in your pants mate, Im not interested in going into measurements over dabs now. What are you going to tell me from a pic anyway and what does it matter?
Yagoda Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 Geez stoner, all that effort just for little old me. Now all the dab talk got me excited, time for the torch. Im old school in that regard. Incidently Mr. "Dab Artist", know where I can get Oooze 510 size quartz burners or some other portable dabber without paying some stupid price?
Popular Post stoner Posted July 30, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Yagoda said: I didnt know falang could own an agricultural company. Learn something new every day. Put it back in your pants mate, Im not interested in going into measurements over dabs now. What are you going to tell me from a pic anyway and what does it matter? i can tell a whole lot about a dab from simply looking at a pic of it. falang as you put it can own any company here (up to 49 percent). what i cannot do here is work.... which i do not. my wife spent 10 years in canada learning to grow when we lived there. she is thai and the majority owner. the license and all paperwork are in her name i am simply an investor and partial owner. 2 1
stoner Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Yagoda said: Geez stoner, all that effort just for little old me. Now all the dab talk got me excited, time for the torch. Im old school in that regard. Incidently Mr. "Dab Artist", know where I can get Oooze 510 size quartz burners or some other portable dabber without paying some stupid price? no problem at all :) no clue on the burners. possibly bong party on srinakarin. i like the all in 1 dab rig. not really portable but cold start is the bestest.
Yagoda Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 Trying to find any portable wax/dab vaporizer here is an excersize in futilty.
NextG Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Yagoda said: Dude saying you can tell how much THC is in a piece of weed by looking at a bad photo of a bud in a bag is like telling us that Joe Biden is honest. So how much would you pay for it? Thats a lovely photo. I see them all over the net, in fact it looks exactly like some big growers product. But hey, lets not get diverted with picture sources, neh. Anyway, with all due respect, I get the impression you are shoestring connected to some Thai who has a farm and you want to show us your expertise in order to drum up business. Thats fine, play the expert, but you arent fooling folks who are dedicated long term American stoners/growers. And its not "your" farm is it, that would be frowned upon. Your best bet in marketing is not diss other peoples choices. But hey no biggie to me, I'm not in the industry in the USA anymore. Im primarly a dabber on those days I need to be a sloth, and on the days I have to function I smoke whatever weed I can find that is cheap and tasty. Tasty is the key, since there is no weed in the world that will make me say, wow, thats good, Im so high, etc. It has to taste right to my palate. In fact, these days, I am mostly smoking Nepalese Hash just for the taste and nice relaxing high and because its sooo cheap for me. Im going to reiterate a point I may have made, if not, here it is: Top Shelf, Grade AAAA, THC 35%, body buzz, fruity taste, all of the marketing words and effects description are meaningless. You can knock a rookie out with bunk weed while an expert wont even catch more than a mild buzz. Some folks might taste the blueberries with notes of mung bean, others may choke. Im my prime, I could drink a whole bottle of vodka over the course of a night and not die, how about you. Nowadays, one drink makes me giggly. Its all about the consumer. Last week, I took a new dab strain that was quite potent (even to me) and put a semi rookie on the floor with it. He just slid off his seat. Me, I can still function. Is that top shelf dab then? Its a plant. Its like a BJ, some are better than others, but there aint no bad ones But here, enlighten us then as to the following picture of a bud in my hand. Just tell us about it. How much THC is in it? What grade is it? AA AAA A Mid, TopShelf, Exotic, Premium? Anyway, this is getting boring. Too much dick measuring over a plant. For newbies to the weed scene in Thailand, here is gratuitous advice from just a person with no chips in the game here. You should note that the industry is new, and many shops are simply arms of a big faceless corporation, think like MedMen in Cali. Others are fly by night Instagrammers or tourist tables selling crap to Asian weed tourists, although the Nepalese kid on the corner of Soi Arab has some nice Moon Rocks. If you are here as a tourist or even as a long termer and you are down in Falang-Land, try Fat Buds (?) in Ekkamai, there is an American dude there whose wife owns it. Thai Cannabis Club has decent pricing and lots of locations. Great for smoking and people watching. There is a place in Phra Kanong, that has quality product at a decent price. Happy Cannabis in Bang Pho has great deals and you deal with the owner, not an employee. But any independent shop off the main drag will work with you. Go in, buy a gram, you like it, cut a deal. Remember COGS, the fancier decorated shops charge more. When I see a shop I havent seen before, I walk in and check it out. Something looks and smells good, well buy a gram then. Ill do that even when I have a stash in my pocket (and the weed and dabs I smoke are usually free, I buy random anyway). Gram is good then cut a deal. No deal? Later bro. YMMV if you are from Europe where the quality is less and the costs are higher, and you mix it with tobacco, ugg, you can buy the table bricks ???? A tad long winded don’t you think? Thou doth protest too much! It’s you who started the whole top grade argument and now you are stating that it doesn’t matter at all. You are happy and that is what matters.
Popular Post philthebook Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 New Facebook Supplier, recommended! https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094882234568 Top shelf Grow indoor organically 1 gram 150.- send 50.- 2 grams 300.- send 50.- 3 grams 450.- Free shipping. 4 grams 600.- Free shipping. 5 grams 700.- Free shipping. 10 grams 1200.- Free shipping. 50 grams 5000.- Free shipping. 100 grams 9000.- Free shipping. Cash on delivery + 50 baht Very fast shipping, received exactly what was advertised, large dense buds, very fragrant. 4
gargamon Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 21 hours ago, Yagoda said: Trying to find any portable wax/dab vaporizer here is an excersize in futilty. http://www.stonercornerth.com/products/Detail/33-1106-Rig_in_One_RIO_Portable_Dab_Rig_Backwoods__Joker__Skull__Tri I bought 2 for discounted price of 1000bt each. The inbuilt torch may also satisfy your needs.
stoner Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 19 hours ago, philthebook said: New Facebook Supplier, recommended! https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094882234568 Top shelf Grow indoor organically 1 gram 150.- send 50.- 2 grams 300.- send 50.- 3 grams 450.- Free shipping. 4 grams 600.- Free shipping. 5 grams 700.- Free shipping. 10 grams 1200.- Free shipping. 50 grams 5000.- Free shipping. 100 grams 9000.- Free shipping. Cash on delivery + 50 baht Very fast shipping, received exactly what was advertised, large dense buds, very fragrant. there's a market for everything. i just don't see this as top grade flower. are the flowers on the scale supposed to be the ones in the picture ?
Popular Post philthebook Posted August 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 1, 2023 5 hours ago, stoner said: there's a market for everything. i just don't see this as top grade flower. are the flowers on the scale supposed to be the ones in the picture ? Yeah, my photos on the scales are what I received, 1g - 2.5g nuggets, my photos don't do them justice. This quality is what the majority of dispensaries on Samui are selling as 'Top Shelf' for 300 baht+ a gram and they are clearing old stock now that I wouldn't touch, only a few places on samui really know what they are doing and their prices reflect that. Black Spiky are doing some really good grows, https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100082951641244 What you are growing in next level up and what shops are classing as 'exotic' imo and should be in the 300+ range. I would love to try some to compare to my sub 150 baht a gram indoor flowers. 1 2 1
stoner Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, philthebook said: Yeah, my photos on the scales are what I received, 1g - 2.5g nuggets, my photos don't do them justice. This quality is what the majority of dispensaries on Samui are selling as 'Top Shelf' for 300 baht+ a gram and they are clearing old stock now that I wouldn't touch, only a few places on samui really know what they are doing and their prices reflect that. Black Spiky are doing some really good grows, https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100082951641244 What you are growing in next level up and what shops are classing as 'exotic' imo and should be in the 300+ range. I would love to try some to compare to my sub 150 baht a gram indoor flowers. the flower looks a little small for hydro. should be much bigger buds and plants. lights meh. decent stuff for the set up though. getting over 17 - not half bad. 1
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