Thailand in the rules-based International Order

[snoop1130]

 

“Rules-based International Order” is a term that we have heard constantly in interviews with the US secretary of state Anthony Blinken over the past year. The reason the US is raising this more often now, Blinken said, is because the US sees it as being challenged, whether it’s by Russia’s aggression in Ukraine or China’s increasing aggression in this region and repression at home.

 

The “order” to which the US refers, Blinken explains, is a set of basic rules about how countries relate to one another, with respect for sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, human rights, with the universal declaration of human rights as its foundation.

 

Not too long ago, Blinken said that China is the only country in the world to have the means, economically, militarily and in terms of influence, to challenge this order. He told Thai PBS World that it is still the case.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailand-in-the-rules-based-international-order/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-07-13

 

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[Baron Samedi]

Funny to see the US touring Asia to defend rules they kept violating on a regular basis since the 90's. Blinken is such an arrogant clown. Hopefully America will get rid of that lousy Biden administration soon. Politics is such a pile of ????...

[connda]

The 'rules based international order' means that your country takes its orders from the United States hegemony.

A 'international laws based international order' means that your country follows UN dictate and is the preferred method of Russia and China and their aligned BRICS nations.

These two opposed groups literally hate each other as they see only that their interests supersedes the rest of the world.

Considering that to quote Tears For Fears that "Everybody Wants To Rule The World", the big players wants everyone else to support their interests.
By the way - there are no Good Guys wearing White Hats.  There are only greedy oligarchs, control-freaks, and billionaires who want their own interests in front of the rest of the countries in the world as well as their populations.  If that means killing a few million people?  So be it.  A few billion - why not.  At the end of the day it's extreme austerity for the commoners and the transfer of extreme wealth to the elite.
To quote George Carlin, "It's a big club and you ain't in it."

I personally feel that these opposing side will end up starting a nuclear conflagration before 2030 with an enraged and fully propagandized public egging on the mutually assured destruction (MAD) - I lived though the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Who starts the 'first strike will be irrelevant.  The media blame game will be vaporized in an EMP flash along with most of the earth's population and infrastructure.   A small handful of Billionaire elites and their political and military henchmen will believe they can weather out the destruction in bunkers. Just hope the Eloi aren't waiting you ya'll exit your Morlock hidey-holes.

Edited July 13, 2022 by connda

[zzaa09]

12 minutes ago, connda said:

The 'rules based international order' means that your country takes its orders from the United States hegemony.

A 'international laws based international order' means that your country follows UN dictate and is the preferred method of Russia and China and their aligned BRICS nations.

These two opposed groups literally hate each other as they see only that their interests supersedes the rest of the world.

Considering that to quote Tears For Fears that "Everybody Wants To Rule The World", the big players wants everyone else to support their interests.
By the way - there are no Good Guys wearing White Hats.  There are only greedy oligarchs, control-freaks, and billionaires who want their own interests in front of the rest of the countries in the world as well as their populations.  If that means killing a few million people?  So be it.  A few billion - why not.

I personally feel that these opposing side will end up starting a nuclear conflagration before 2030 with an enraged and fully propagandized public egging on the mutually assured destruction (MAD) - I lived though the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Who starts it will be irrelevant.  The media blame game with be gone in an EMP flash along with most of the earth's population and infrastructure.   As small handful of Billionaire elites and their political and military henchmen will believe they can weather out the destruction in bunkers. 

Well constructed. 

As most of the usual crowd aren't aware of who the real nasty [and historically destructive] boogiemen truly are. 

Edited July 13, 2022 by zzaa09

[gearbox]

The American "rules based order" is set of principles and rules designed to keep the vast majority of the world forever at the bottom of the food chain. The Chinese villains are attempting to break these rules because they don't want to manufacture cheap t-shirts and thongs forever.

Edited July 13, 2022 by gearbox

[wombat]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

 respect for sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, human rights, with the universal declaration of human rights as its foundation.

Which is fine untill it's decided a police action is needed to keep them in order ?

[vandeventer]

11 hours ago, gearbox said:

The American "rules based order" is set of principles and rules designed to keep the vast majority of the world forever at the bottom of the food chain. The Chinese villains are attempting to break these rules because they don't want to manufacture cheap t-shirts and thongs forever.

Maybe the Chinese are thinking if Japan can get out of the cheap t-shirts and thongs so can we?

[KIngsofisaan]

12 hours ago, connda said:

The 'rules based international order' means that your country takes its orders from the United States hegemony.

A 'international laws based international order' means that your country follows UN dictate and is the preferred method of Russia and China and their aligned BRICS nations.

These two opposed groups literally hate each other as they see only that their interests supersedes the rest of the world.

Considering that to quote Tears For Fears that "Everybody Wants To Rule The World", the big players wants everyone else to support their interests.
By the way - there are no Good Guys wearing White Hats.  There are only greedy oligarchs, control-freaks, and billionaires who want their own interests in front of the rest of the countries in the world as well as their populations.  If that means killing a few million people?  So be it.  A few billion - why not.  At the end of the day it's extreme austerity for the commoners and the transfer of extreme wealth to the elite.
To quote George Carlin, "It's a big club and you ain't in it."

I personally feel that these opposing side will end up starting a nuclear conflagration before 2030 with an enraged and fully propagandized public egging on the mutually assured destruction (MAD) - I lived though the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Who starts the 'first strike will be irrelevant.  The media blame game will be vaporized in an EMP flash along with most of the earth's population and infrastructure.   A small handful of Billionaire elites and their political and military henchmen will believe they can weather out the destruction in bunkers. Just hope the Eloi aren't waiting you ya'll exit your Morlock hidey-holes.

There are probably some places you would be safe, but Thailand won't be one of them.

 

The world population will pay the price someday for idiotic decisions made because someone did not get their way.

 

What is happening in the Ukraine is a travesty and even worse, the world sends weapons and think they are doing enough.

 

Sad to see so many innocent people killed that could care less about politics.

 

Politics it the biggest killer in the history of the world.

 

 

[SiSePuede419]

It means this is an informal way of the US HELPING countries like Thailand, if they are willing to follow the US rules.

 

It's an alternate to China's BELT & ROAD initiative, which will eventually make every country in Asia dependent upon China's rules (or else).

 

When's the last time the US invaded a country for permanent occupation?

 

Name one country.

 

China?

 

Tibet.

 

And now they're gearing up to invade Taiwan.

 

Hey.  Asian countries don't have to play by America's rules.

 

You can be subsumed by China.

 

Up to you. ????

 

 

[klauskunkel]

12 hours ago, connda said:

A small handful of Billionaire elites and their political and military henchmen will believe they can weather out the destruction in bunkers.

True enough. But they still need slaves to do the work and for fornication, so they don't turn on each other.

[Jack West Jr]

Same old,same old . The good ole US of A dictating its policies to the rest of the world by means of big stick-policy . Meanwhile, racism , gun violence and social inequities abound in America . To top it all , the right to abortion has just been banned by the supreme court . Time for the countries of the world to decide their own fate , that is if Big Brothers USA , Russia and China will let them. 

 

[NightSky]

13 hours ago, Baron Samedi said:

Funny to see the US touring Asia to defend rules they kept violating on a regular basis since the 90's. Blinken is such an arrogant clown. Hopefully America will get rid of that lousy Biden administration soon. Politics is such a pile of ????...

lets hope China or Russia don't take the reigns, at that point we really would be screwed.

[zyphodb]

37 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

It means this is an informal way of the US HELPING countries like Thailand, if they are willing to follow the US rules.

 

It's an alternate to China's BELT & ROAD initiative, which will eventually make every country in Asia dependent upon China's rules (or else).

 

When's the last time the US invaded a country for permanent occupation?

 

Name one country.

 

China?

 

Tibet.

 

And now they're gearing up to invade Taiwan.

 

Hey.  Asian countries don't have to play by America's rules.

 

You can be subsumed by China.

 

Up to you. ????

 

 

A bit late for that,

 If Thailand does anything that upsets China much they can just turn off the Mekong river...

[RichardColeman]

I'd be more interested to know which countries - if any - would come to Thailand's aid if they got invaded. If the countries surrounding Thailand invaded, none of the outside world would really give a hoot and probably say 'whatever'

[jacko45k]

Just now, RichardColeman said:

I'd be more interested to know which countries - if any - would come to Thailand's aid if they got invaded. If the countries surrounding Thailand invaded, none of the outside world would really give a hoot and probably say 'whatever'

Do they have any treaties or alliances to fall back on? I bet China would come to help providing they were not the antagonists. 

Ukraine is not getting the support I would have expected prior, is that indicative of how countries really would react?

[CygnusX1]

45 minutes ago, NightSky said:

lets hope China or Russia don't take the reigns, at that point we really would be screwed.

Yes, to all the anti-Westerners “America’s the cause of all the world’s ills” out there, would you really want to live in a world in which Russia or China was the dominant power?

[piewarmer]

5 minutes ago, CygnusX1 said:

Yes, to all the anti-Westerners “America’s the cause of all the world’s ills” out there, would you really want to live in a world in which Russia or China was the dominant power?

The current hegemony really sucks, there is a need for change away from the globalists

[RichardColeman]

14 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I bet China would come to help providing they were not the antagonists. 

I do not agree, but I think if they did, they would not leave and it would become a state of china

[jesimps]

The one thing I never see from the outhouse politicians on here is what they would do to ensure world peace. Russia and China would be good places to start. What would you do about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, let Russia flatten and conquer the country and then go on to take other countries or try to help Ukraine to defend itself?
Same with China, let them take Taiwan and most of the South China Sea or resist it and help countries in the area to do so.

Diplomacy doesn't work with power mad egomaniacs, just refer back to recent crazies, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao to name but a few. What would you have done to stop them? Blame the US and its allies as usual, I expect.

[mikebell]

54 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I'd be more interested to know which countries - if any - would come to Thailand's aid if they got invaded. If the countries surrounding Thailand invaded, none of the outside world would really give a hoot and probably say 'whatever'

But Thailand's armed forces must be the best equipped in the world; they have more generals with lots of medals to deter all surrounding countries from attacking.

[SymS]

I believe the correct technical terms is the "rules for thee but not for me" international order.

Edited July 14, 2022 by SymS
remove extra quotation mark

[vandeventer]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

I'd be more interested to know which countries - if any - would come to Thailand's aid if they got invaded. If the countries surrounding Thailand invaded, none of the outside world would really give a hoot and probably say 'whatever'

China, as it would be the invading force! Are you any good at making T-shirts? 

[NightSky]

1 hour ago, CygnusX1 said:

Yes, to all the anti-Westerners “America’s the cause of all the world’s ills” out there, would you really want to live in a world in which Russia or China was the dominant power?

Those posters are probably cccp plants 

[Archie Baker]

2 hours ago, zyphodb said:

A bit late for that,

 If Thailand does anything that upsets China much they can just turn off the Mekong river...

Why worry about Thailand and Chinese control. 80% of Thais are Chinese anyway. 

 

I'd rather be a chink than a yank they say. 

[Enzian]

2 hours ago, NightSky said:

lets hope China or Russia don't take the reigns, at that point we really would be screwed

And that's why I'm not anti-American like most of my American friends; this is no joke. But Blinken's vision doesn't really seem to go beyond maintaining the post WWII status quo, which isn't enough.

[CygnusX1]

11 minutes ago, NightSky said:

Those posters are probably cccp plants 

No, I think the problem is that Western nations with the most freedoms and human rights are constantly attacked from within by woke leftists.

[sammieuk1]

Thailand in the "rules" based order ..Dr. hurry and stich my sides back up again????

[LetsGoJoe]

3 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Hey.  Asian countries don't have to play by America's rules.

 

You can be subsumed by China.

 

Up to you. ????

 

 

Too bad (for us/them?) that America has become such a demented-Democratic clown-show to the point now of endangering the whole of humanity by playing cat n' mouse with Russia, who in their right-mind could possibly have confidence in a future with America (Western Civ. for that matter) at It's helm?

Edited July 14, 2022 by LetsGoJoe

[roquefort]

56 minutes ago, NightSky said:

Those posters are probably cccp plants 

Of course. Anyone who questions US hegemony must be a communist.

[arithai12]

16 hours ago, Baron Samedi said:

Funny to see the US touring Asia to defend rules they kept violating on a regular basis since the 90's. Blinken is such an arrogant clown. Hopefully America will get rid of that lousy Biden administration soon. Politics is such a pile of ????...

Agreed. The problem is what comes after.