POLITICS Trump says FBI raiding his Mar-a-Lago home

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Are you aware that he inherited about half a billion dollars from his father?

His Father was also successful ?

[Excel]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

His Father was also successful ?

Like father like son in many ways 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Are you aware that he inherited about half a billion dollars from his father?

That was in 1999 , a long time after Donald became successful and rich

Donald didn't get rich because of his inheritance 

[Excel]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That was in 1999 , a long time after Donald became successful and rich

Donald didn't get rich because of his inheritance 

Wrong again. Perhaps you should read the link I provided in my earlier post

 

However here is a little extract from it;

In 2018, an exposé by The New York Times^[b] revealed that Trump and his wife, Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, provided over $1 billion (in 2018 currency) to their progeny overall, while effectively evading over $500 million in gift taxes. Trump illicitly contributed several million dollars to Donald between 1987 and 1991

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, Excel said:

Wrong again. Perhaps you should read the link I provided in my earlier post

 

However here is a little extract from it;

In 2018, an exposé by The New York Times^[b] revealed that Trump and his wife, Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, provided over $1 billion (in 2018 currency) to their progeny overall, while effectively evading over $500 million in gift taxes. Trump illicitly contributed several million dollars to Donald between 1987 and 1991

Are you saying that I am wrong about Donald's Dad dying in 1999 and that's when he received his inheritance ?

[Excel]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Are you saying that I am wrong about Donald's Dad dying in 1999 and that's when he received his inheritance ?

You know I am not if you had bothered to read the thread in order.  You are wrong about  your statement 

"that was in 1999 , a long time after Donald became successful and rich

Donald didn't get rich because of his inheritance ".

 

Now go back and read the link properly, but again , just for you , a small extract.  He did not get rich because he was successful, he became rich due to monies given to him.

 

 n 2018, an exposé by The New York Times^[b] revealed that Trump and his wife, Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, provided over $1 billion (in 2018 currency) to their progeny overall, while effectively evading over $500 million in gift taxes. Trump illicitly contributed several million dollars to Donald between 1987 and 1991

[Neeranam]

17 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Only Trump voters, not Republican voters, two different animals. It's gotten down to who you vote for defines you. Which person, not party.

I thought the party voted for Trump as their leader? 

[Neeranam]

5 minutes ago, Excel said:

You know I am not if you had bothered to read the thread in order.  You are wrong about  your statement 

"that was in 1999 , a long time after Donald became successful and rich

Donald didn't get rich because of his inheritance ".

 

Now go back and read the link properly, but again , just for you , a small extract.  He did not get rich because he was successful, he became rich due to monies given to him.

 

 n 2018, an exposé by The New York Times^[b] revealed that Trump and his wife, Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, provided over $1 billion (in 2018 currency) to their progeny overall, while effectively evading over $500 million in gift taxes. Trump illicitly contributed several million dollars to Donald between 1987 and 1991

My grans family are McLeods from Western Isles , my sister is a McLeod.  It would be cool if Trump was a cousin. 

[Neeranam]

Why does Trump get attacked from all sides when he was a more popular president than the current one? 

[ozimoron]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I thought the party voted for Trump as their leader? 

I'm referring to the discord within parties, like in primaries.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

His Father was also successful ?

Actually Dad bailed out Trump more than once. Ultimately, Trump ran his father's business into the ground.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Are you aware that he inherited about half a billion dollars from his father?

I am not though, although I am aware of this fact 

 

After his father died in 1999, Trump and his siblings received equal portions^{[citation needed]} of his father's estate valued at $250–300 million.

 

   With four siblings , that makes it about $70 M each

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Excel said:

Wrong again. Perhaps you should read the link I provided in my earlier post

 

However here is a little extract from it;

In 2018, an exposé by The New York Times^[b] revealed that Trump and his wife, Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, provided over $1 billion (in 2018 currency) to their progeny overall, while effectively evading over $500 million in gift taxes. Trump illicitly contributed several million dollars to Donald between 1987 and 1991

You will not be able to convince him that the Trump family is anything but whiter than white and that all of them can walk on water.

[Berkshire]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Why does Trump get attacked from all sides when he was a more popular president than the current one? 

Funny.  If Trump was more popular, he would have won reelection.  Try harder. 

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16 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I am not though, although I am aware of this fact 

 

After his father died in 1999, Trump and his siblings received equal portions^{[citation needed]} of his father's estate valued at $250–300 million.

 

   With four siblings , that makes it about $70 M each

Except that if you had been following the news you would know that Fred Trump transferred most of his fortune through highly dubious means to his children before he died. So technically it's not an inheritance, but I didn't want to go into a long explanation.

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

 

And this doesn't include the bailout his father provided when Trump's casino venture went belly up. And there were only 3 children who inherited. One predeceased the father.

Trump got bailed out by The Apprentice which sold the world on his ability as a dealmaker. In fact, his business history is marked by overpaying for assets and then going bankrupt. By the time the 21st century rolled around, he was toxic to NY bankers.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

And again nothing.

Exactly,

[Mac Mickmanus]

25 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Funny.  If Trump was more popular, he would have won reelection.  Try harder. 

Lets see what happened next time , 2024 isn't too far away 

[habanero]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

This is false. Documents have to undergo a specific procedure to certify that they are declassified. 

 

Second a document is not declassified just because the president—or the head of the Public Interest Declassification Board—says it is. It has to go through a formal process, in which the security stamps, tags, or labels are removed. It seems at least some of the documents at Mar-a-Lago did not go through this process; according to the Journal, the FBI removed 11 sets of classified documents, four sets labeled “Top Secret,” one marked “Various classified/TS/SCI documents.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/08/what-is-in-trump-mar-a-lago-documents.html

 

Even if the documents were declassified it would still be a crime to remove them if any of the criteria of this law were met:

Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b)

Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

 

Or you can do like Hillary did. "I had no idea what the C stood for on those documents".  

[michael87]

USA, during the Trump presidency  EVERYTHING was much better than the current situation now under Biden, minus the "mean" twitter tweets. Things were never so good, NOW LOOK AT AMERICA! 

A total and utter dumpster fire WRECK! 

 

LOL...and all you care about are the documents at Mar-A-Lago. 

You are all in for a big kick in the teeth in November.

 

Trump and MAGA have never been stronger.

 

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1 minute ago, habanero said:

Or you can do like Hillary did. "I had no idea what the C stood for on those documents".  

8 top secret classified documents were found in her server. 7 were of reports about CIA drone strikes which had actually been reported by the media. The 8th was about her conversation with the President of Malawi. 

[CharlieH]

Reported Trolling meme removed.

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, michael87 said:

USA, during the Trump presidency  EVERYTHING was much better than the current situation now under Biden, minus the "mean" twitter tweets. Things were never so good, NOW LOOK AT AMERICA! 

A total and utter dumpster fire WRECK! 

 

LOL...and all you care about are the documents at Mar-A-Lago. 

You are all in for a big kick in the teeth in November.

 

Trump and MAGA have never been stronger.

They know how to stop election fraud, so it's game on. No more cheating.

 

Vote accordingly.

You can always tell when someone's got nothing because they resort to predicting the future. And more MAGA nonsense about election fraud. Not even Republican govts could come up with any proof. But the Democrats best chance of holding on is that there will be lots of candidates who are pleasing to to the likes of you.

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

8 top secret classified documents were found in her server. 7 were of reports about CIA drone strikes which had actually been reported by the media. The 8th was about her conversation with the President of Malawi. 

Then its quite possible that there could be a similar content on Trumps files ?

   

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4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Then its quite possible that there could be a similar content on Trumps files ?

   

Well, if the reports about the labelling are true, the stuff he is alleged to have moved have a far higher security rating.

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

Funny.  If Trump was more popular, he would have won reelection.  Try harder. 

I have no horse in this race. 

According to the ratings, Biden is much worse than Trump.

I see with no blinkers.

I would prefer to see Trump back in the saddle for the sake of World peace and economy. 

Biden is too long in the tooth should be put out to pasture.

They sent in the cavalry the other day as Trump is the main contender.

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, if the reports about the labelling are true, the stuff he is alleged to have moved have a far higher security rating.

SSShhhuuusssshhhh , that cannot be mentioned .

Top Secret  

The content cannot be spoken about 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I have no horse in this race. 

According to the ratings, Biden is much worse than Trump.

I see with no blinkers.

I would prefer to see Trump back in the saddle for the sake of World peace and economy. 

Biden is too long in the tooth should be put out to pasture.

They sent in the cavalry the other day as Trump is the main contender.

 

Five thirty eight keeps track of these thing. Here's the latest on Trump vs. Biden

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?cid=rrpromo

 

Is a 1.5% difference "much worse"?

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2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

SSShhhuuusssshhhh , that cannot be mentioned .

Top Secret  

The content cannot be spoken about 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if  you're making a point here. Well, maybe, mildly surprised.

[The Hammer2021]

If President Trump is successfully prosecuted the damage to the fabric of American society will be unimaginable but if the  prosecution fails the damage will only be marginally less worse.

 

[The Hammer2021]

57 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Then its quite possible that there could be a similar content on Trumps files ?

   

She unlike a President does not have the power  to declassify the status  of files. As the files were subject to ongoing discussions and negotiations- it appears the sudden  action by DOJFBI might  have pre emted a calmer resolution to the issue. If so this is not about vindication but vindictiveness