Takeaways from the court hearing on releasing more documents from the Mar-a-Lago search

[Scott]

Baiting post removed.

 

[AndyFoxy]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Even yours.

Of course

[candide]

31 minutes ago, nauseus said:

We all know.....zip

We all know he's been impeached for that, don't we? 

[Hanaguma]

All we have to do is wait for the latest bombshell report. The walls are closing in on former President Trump. Some explosive testimony is in the offing.  This must be the beginning of the end..... gee, havent we all heard that some time in the past?

 

The only happy people are CNN and the rest of the democratic-cultural complex. Their ratings are up every time The Donald is mentioned. It has been boring trying to cover Biden for the past 18 months and not fall into a coma. But anything Trump says is instant ratings.

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5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

All we have to do is wait for the latest bombshell report. The walls are closing in on former President Trump. Some explosive testimony is in the offing.  This must be the beginning of the end..... gee, havent we all heard that some time in the past?

 

The only happy people are CNN and the rest of the democratic-cultural complex. Their ratings are up every time The Donald is mentioned. It has been boring trying to cover Biden for the past 18 months and not fall into a coma. But anything Trump says is instant ratings.

Trump was not indictable during his 4 years as President. After he left the White House (very grudgingly) his lawyers opposed every action by various investigators. While their track record of successes was very poor, they did manage to delay a reckoning.

Now the time is approaching where these cases will appear in court. It certainly doesn't look good for the Trump Organization in civil court. Trump took the 5th over 400 times in deposition and Trump Org's former CEO has now agreed to testify in the case.

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56 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Trump was not indictable during his 4 years as President. After he left the White House (very grudgingly) his lawyers opposed every action by various investigators. While their track record of successes was very poor, they did manage to delay a reckoning.

Now the time is approaching where these cases will appear in court. It certainly doesn't look good for the Trump Organization in civil court. Trump took the 5th over 400 times in deposition and Trump Org's former CEO has now agreed to testify in the case.

A correction: CEO should have been CFO. Weisselberg was the Chief Financial Officer for the Trump Organization.

[heybruce]

17 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Its an unwritten rule that ex Presidents are left alone and allowed a quiet and dignified life after serving. If other ex-Presidents are left completely alone after making monstrous decisions based on false evidence that literally led to the deaths of millions of people in the middle east, then other ex Presidents will be left alone over paperwork issues that caused zero deaths and zero harm.

 It is all a question of comparative seriousness of the alleged crime. In my mind killing millions of people is worse than possessing some documents in safe storage that may have been reclassified after Trump left office. 

 You "one law and nobody above it" is a troll. You know full well the democrats and republicans are held to different standards. Allegations against Republicans without evidence get major air time and discussion. Allegations against Democrats with mountains of evidence are censored across social media.

I see, now we're into the "unwritten law" territory.  Like the unwritten law that Presidents will show their tax returns.

 

You refer to millions of deaths in the middle east, deaths caused by a Republican President, that were not deemed illegal.  You then insist that Republicans are held to higher standards of legality.  Make up your mind.

 

You overlook the fact that President Clinton was impeached for lying about a BJ.  Were you cool with President Clinton's sex life being investigated?  Would you be cool with Trump's sex life being investigated?

 

Accept reality.  No one is above the law.  Not even former Presidents.

[heybruce]

16 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Yes I believe that everyone knows it. If Trump had Biden raided I am sure your perspective would change due to your extreme bias and partisan opinions. So you know it, but you defend it because you hate Trump. As a neutral I am fortunate that I am able to look at these things objectively and it is patently clear that this was done to discredit Trump and attempt to smear him before the next election.

 

Holding that opinion does not mean I am claiming to be a "spokesperson for everybody". It means I believe people are being disingenuous because of their political bias.

Words from the most blatantly biased "neutral" on the forum.

[heybruce]

16 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I said there is no evidence yet. You said "What about the documents"?

 

But you haven't seen them. Because they haven't been released. ????

 

So my point stands.

 

At this point, there is no evidence for either the raid, or an indictment. There was a raid. That's it. Nothing else. Nada.

When the police seize a stash of drugs, do you insist there is no evidence until you've personally tested the drugs?

[heybruce]

15 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

Stay away from CNN and you’ll be fine.

I would like to know your sources for information.  I'm a big fan of comedy.

[AndyFoxy]

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

I would like to know your sources for information.  I'm a big fan of comedy.

I suggest you read your own posts.

[heybruce]

34 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

I suggest you read your own posts.

In other words, you assume people who disagree with you watch CNN (I don't), assume they are therefore misinformed (ba assumption) but won't disclose your superior sources of information.

 

Let me guess; Breitbart?  Russia Today?  Qanon?

[AndyFoxy]

58 minutes ago, heybruce said:

In other words, you assume people who disagree with you watch CNN (I don't), assume they are therefore misinformed (ba assumption) but won't disclose your superior sources of information.

 

Let me guess; Breitbart?  Russia Today?  Qanon?

Lol….so presumptuous ????

[Eric Loh]

17 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Lol….so presumptuous ????

Out of curiosity, have you ever watch progressive and perhaps even liberal news outlets and podcasts to get yourself a more balance train of thoughts. Kind of not thrusting yourself mindlessly into the rabbit hole of far right and QAnon. 

[heybruce]

51 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Lol….so presumptuous ????

Says the poster who assumes anyone who doesn't agree with him watches CNN.????

[EVENKEEL]

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

Trump was not indictable during his 4 years as President. After he left the White House (very grudgingly) his lawyers opposed every action by various investigators. While their track record of successes was very poor, they did manage to delay a reckoning.

Now the time is approaching where these cases will appear in court. It certainly doesn't look good for the Trump Organization in civil court. Trump took the 5th over 400 times in deposition and Trump Org's former CEO has now agreed to testify in the case.

I've been hearing "the walls are closing in" referenced to DT for 5-6 yrs now both in the media and posters right here. 

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

In other words, you assume people who disagree with you watch CNN (I don't), assume they are therefore misinformed (ba assumption) but won't disclose your superior sources of information.

 

Let me guess; Breitbart?  Russia Today?  Qanon?

Here CNN is one of news channels in Thailand. I click on it to see what's new. Just like I catch the Gutfeld show for a laugh. Always funny stuff.

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3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I've been hearing "the walls are closing in" referenced to DT for 5-6 yrs now both in the media and posters right here. 

As I've already pointed out, as President he couldn't be indicted. Even before he was out of office, his team of lawyers engaged in delaying tactics. The motions they put forward mostly failed but they did delay the process. That phase is beginning to draw to a close.

[Eric Loh]

11 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I've been hearing "the walls are closing in" referenced to DT for 5-6 yrs now both in the media and posters right here. 

Citizen Trump unprotected by DOJ policy on sitting President is more vulnerable for indictments. Like you, I want him indicted yesterday. 

[AndyFoxy]

31 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Says the poster who assumes anyone who doesn't agree with him watches CNN.????

I guess it’s a case of the pot calling the kettle black and the kettle calling the pot black.

[Bkk Brian]

Unfortunately, the cult are influenced by people like this who has fortunately just been banned from twitter:

 

Twitter ‘permanently suspends’ HD 20 candidate after he advocates shooting federal agents

HD 20s Luis Miguel is still on Instagram though.

A Republican candidate for the House from St. Augustine is banned from Twitter after advocating violence against the federal government.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/548917-miguel-tweet/

 

[Scott]

Troll post with an inappropriate reference to the president has been removed.  Continue and face a suspension.  

 

[EVENKEEL]

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As I've already pointed out, as President he couldn't be indicted. Even before he was out of office, his team of lawyers engaged in delaying tactics. The motions they put forward mostly failed but they did delay the process. That phase is beginning to draw to a close.

Doesn't alter the validity of my statement.

 

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Citizen Trump unprotected by DOJ policy on sitting President is more vulnerable for indictments. Like you, I want him indicted yesterday. 

Again the media and posters right here has been reporting the demise of DT for 5-6 yrs now. My instinct tells me this will blow over like all the rest. 

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1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

Doesn't alter the validity of my statement.

 

Again the media and posters right here has been reporting the demise of DT for 5-6 yrs now. My instinct tells me this will blow over like all the rest. 

They've been reporting his demise? I see you follow the Donald by indulging in hype.

[Walker88]

On 8/19/2022 at 2:18 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

You intentionally miss the key point. Trump is an ex President. They stormed his private residence.

 

Perhaps you are unaware of the US legal system, but NOBODY is above the law. NOBODY.

 

That should be comforting, but for reasons that escape me, far too many people on the right think the US is, or should be, an autocracy.

 

Long ago, when the US was being founded, there was a slogan that is as applicable today as it was in 1776:

 

"We bow to no Earthly king"

 

The Constitution, written by Madison and Jefferson, could have just piggybacked off the Magna Carta. Those men knew better. They knew the inherent evil of allowing anyone to be above the law.

 

It is high time for repubs to re-learn the founding principles of the US.

 

 

[heybruce]

41 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Unfortunately, the cult are influenced by people like this who has fortunately just been banned from twitter:

 

Twitter ‘permanently suspends’ HD 20 candidate after he advocates shooting federal agents

HD 20s Luis Miguel is still on Instagram though.

A Republican candidate for the House from St. Augustine is banned from Twitter after advocating violence against the federal government.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/548917-miguel-tweet/

 

Even by Florida Man standards that is crazy!  And dangerous.

[LosLobo]

7 hours ago, heybruce said:

I would like to know your sources for information.  I'm a big fan of comedy.

Perhaps there is a good reason for him not disclosing his sources of information.

 

If it was Fox, I would be reticent too.

 

In the recent past, Fox used the defence that "a reasonable viewer of ordinary intelligence listening or watching" would no believe the programming in the successful summation of a defamation case.

 

Obviously a lot of viewers believe every utterance of Fox commentators.

 

So what does say about Fox's attitude to their viewers and their viewers ability for critical thinking.

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

[Phoenix Rising]

14 hours ago, nauseus said:

Not surprising given Bolton's rapid exit as NSA in 2019 but the advice at the end is good.

Funny how trump used to brag about only hiring the best and brightest only for them, almost without exception, to turn on him.

Only those deeply inflicted by the MAGA lunacy would not find that worrisome.

[FritsSikkink]

On 8/19/2022 at 9:18 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

You intentionally miss the key point. Trump is an ex President. They stormed his private residence. This is a new chapter in American politics. The chapter of hatred and revenge and attacking the man they fear more than anything. The ONE thing they needed is to make very sure they had serious criminal acts to be busting, otherwise they pretty much started a civil war by continuing to persecute(with no valid reason other than hate and fear) the leader of the Republican party. Yet many days are passing and it is starting to look very much like they had no real reason to do this house raid.

 

"Former President Donald Trump and his allies are ramping up warnings that Trump might seek payback for the FBI’s search of his Mar-a-Lago club if he recaptures the presidency. 

On Wednesday, Trump posted a link to an article headlined “The Payback for Mar-a-Lago Will Be Brutal” on his Truth Social account."

https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5vy7y/trump-revenge-fbi-search-mar-a-lago

 

 The left will only realize the mistake they made once Hillary, Obama, Biden, all democrat disinformation pushers and censors in the media get raided on general search warrants. All panty drawers of all spouses thoroughly searched. Ex Presidents and VIPs charged on nonsensical charges. You guys started this, and you guys are celebrating this. It is a disgrace.

 

Stealing top secret information is a disgrace. You defending the thief is a disgrace.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Even by Florida Man standards that is crazy!  And dangerous.

So brain-addled has the repub cult become that the Senator older than Methusaleh (chuck grassley) actually claimed Biden was hiring IRS agents to lock and load their AR-15s to go to Iowa and shoot middle class taxpayers. If I give grassley the benefit of the doubt I would say his problem is Alzheimers. Truly, a sickness has taken over repubs.

 

I think back to a patriotic and righteous repub Senator, Howard Baker, and wonder what he would think of the demise of his party.