Bangkok morning turns to night - it's climate change as top Thai scientist warns of more "extreme weather"

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A top scientist in Thailand has predicted that the country is now entering the start of a period of "extreme weather".

 

Dr Thon Thamrongnawasawat, a marine scientist at Kaset university in the Thai capital, went on his personal Facebook page to make the warning after Bangkokian's woke to hellish looking clouds yesterday morning.

 

People on social media posted video and pictures as scary and fast moving clouds rolled over Bangkok turning morning into night, reported Siam Rath. 

 

Though for many the storm's bark was worse than its bite, it dumped little rain in some areas and soon moved on, though the day remained unclear with intermittent showers until further evening light shows notes ASEAN NOW.

 

The met office has predicted storms and lightning all week. 

 

Dr Thon said:

"It turned Bangkok from morning into night. It was "maek loke rorn" (hot earth clouds)", he said.

 

This resulted from a warming ocean, evaporation and hot weather meaning there was more vapor in the atmosphere, he noted.

 

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He said that the clouds contained a huge volume of water to dump but there was not much rain - this time.

 

But wait for next time this happens or subsequent times. 

 

He called it the start of "extreme weather" - a term he used in English.

 

This is due to climate change, he continued, with greehouse gases in the atmosphere that would cause "devastating consequences especially in countries that are economically fragile".

 

He cited Pakistan as an example of this with great swathes of the country reportedly under water at this time after some of the most serious flooding there in memory. 

 

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[Crossy]

And there was I thinking it was just a regular wet-season storm

 

Climate-change is real enough (just how much of it is down to us humans is debatable) but I don't think we can really put yesterday's bit of cloud down to it 100%.

[Muhendis]

6 hours ago, Crossy said:

And there was I thinking it was just a regular wet-season storm

 

Climate-change is real enough (just how much of it is down to us humans is debatable) but I don't think we can really put yesterday's bit of cloud down to it 100%.

Pain in the backside if your solar batteries are a bit low.

[Trentham]

6 hours ago, Crossy said:

And there was I thinking it was just a regular wet-season storm

 

Climate-change is real enough (just how much of it is down to us humans is debatable) but I don't think we can really put yesterday's bit of cloud down to it 100%.

Yeah and it is debatable that Hitler [or Putin] was a good man.

[Guderian]

He should get on the next flight to Pakistan and have a look at what real Hellish weather will do to your country.

[ozimoron]

6 hours ago, Crossy said:

And there was I thinking it was just a regular wet-season storm

 

Climate-change is real enough (just how much of it is down to us humans is debatable) but I don't think we can really put yesterday's bit of cloud down to it 100%.

No it isn't. It's 100% down to human activity, stop spreading disinformation. The jury isn't out.

[Photoguy21]

What about the weather which was sever back in 2010 was it when many of the overpasses were covered? I remember flying into Bangkok when the water was dispersing and still I could see the back end of cars sticking out of the water on flyovers.

Why do these people always want to make it sound so dramatic as if there has never been very heavy rain in the rainy season before? Attention seeking are they or just jumping on the official narrative?

[Trentham]

3 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

What about the weather which was sever back in 2010 was it when many of the overpasses were covered? I remember flying into Bangkok when the water was dispersing and still I could see the back end of cars sticking out of the water on flyovers.

Why do these people always want to make it sound so dramatic as if there has never been very heavy rain in the rainy season before? Attention seeking are they or just jumping on the official narrative?

Climate change didn't begin in 2011. 2010 was also a climate change event.

[Photoguy21]

Just now, Trentham said:

Climate change didn't begin in 2011. 2010 was also a climate change event.

Everything is clime or some other change now. They love to jump on band wagons and make something out of very little.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Everything is clime or some other change now. They love to jump on band wagons and make something out of very little.

Band wagon. yawn. Really? You think climate change is "very little" and a "band wagon"? I don't think your ilk is very popular in Europe and parts of the US, oh and Australia, and Pakistan and China right now.

[Photoguy21]

39 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Band wagon. yawn. Really? You think climate change is "very little" and a "band wagon"? I don't think your ilk is very popular in Europe and parts of the US, oh and Australia, and Pakistan and China right now.

The climate is always changing but it isnt the world disaster you appear to think it is. You can live in the world of I believe if some one says it is so but ret of the thinking population dont.

 

Edited August 30, 2022 by onthedarkside
personal comment re other forum member removed

[The Hammer2021]

28 minutes ago, Trentham said:

Yeah and it is debatable that Hitler [or Putin] was a good man.

Moral absolutism has nothing  to do with climate  change.

[Trentham]

2 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

The climate is always changing but it isnt the world disaster you appear to think it is. You can live in the world of I believe if some one says it is so but ret of the thinking population dont.

I hope you are better at photography than you are at science.

[Pib]

I live in Bangkok and yesterday/Monday morning when this small but dark and fast moving storm went over Bangkok it definitely got a lot darker...made one think What is going on....are we having an eclipse, etc.  But as the article said there was little rain...it just got darker than a normal storm passing over.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

The climate is always changing but it isnt the world disaster you appear to think it is. You can live in the world of I believe if some one says it is so but ret of the thinking population dont.

I dont go in for being popular I tend to find out things not just go with the flow. For you that is probably the easy way out, after all we wouldnt want you to think would we.

Over a thousand dead in Pakistan, 30 millipn affected not sure they would agree with you

[The Hammer2021]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Band wagon. yawn. Really? You think climate change is "very little" and a "band wagon"? I don't think your ilk is very popular in Europe and parts of the US, oh and Australia, and Pakistan and China right now.

Being popular in Pakistan is hardly an arbiter of moral or scientific correctness. Or China or Australia and definitely  not Amerikia.

[The Hammer2021]

1 minute ago, Pib said:

I live in Bangkok and yesterday/Monday morning when this small but dark and fast moving storm went over Bangkok it definitely got a lot darker...made one think What is going on....are we having an eclipse, etc.  But as the article said there was little rain...it just got darker than a normal storm passing over.

Sounds fun  top me

[Photoguy21]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Over a thousand dead in Pakistan, 30 millipn affected not sure they would agree with you

Pakistan and Bangladesh experience sever flooding every year. Many of the casualties and sad as it is are people building in valleys and low lying areas.

[The Hammer2021]

11 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

The climate is always changing but it isnt the world disaster you appear to think it is. You can live in the world of I believe if some one says it is so but ret of the thinking population dont.

I dont go in for being popular I tend to find out things not just go with the flow. For you that is probably the easy way out, after all we wouldnt want you to think would we.

Even if it is a world disaster its not the fault  of individuals- its the greed of corporations in league with government.  But the current view is being used to suppress  freedom of individuals but allow them elite to live  normally

Edited August 30, 2022 by The Hammer2021

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Pakistan and Bangladesh experience sever flooding every year. Many of the casualties and sad as it is are people building in valleys and low lying areas.

Not like this year, they are historic floods with a third of the country underwater and food shortages to follow. Must be jumping on the bandwagon eh......

[ozimoron]

Here is a prediction for Darwin, Australia which is on a similar latitude as Bangkok. Bangkok can expect to same the same sort of changes.

 

Predictions for Darwin, in northern Australia, suggest an increase in days with temperatures above 35℃ from 11 days a year in 2015 to an average of 43 days under the mid-range emission scenario (IPCC’s RCP4.5 scenario) by 2030 and an average of 111 (range 54-211) days by 2090. Under the higher emission scenario (IPCC’s RCP8.5), an average of 265 days above 35℃ could be reached by 2090.

 

https://theconversation.com/climate-explained-will-the-tropics-eventually-become-uninhabitable-145174

 

Seriously ugly: here’s how Australia will look if the world heats by 3°C this century

 

At 3℃ of global warming, Australia’s present-day ecological systems would be unrecognisable.

 

https://theconversation.com/seriously-ugly-heres-how-australia-will-look-if-the-world-heats-by-3-c-this-century-157875

 

 

[ozimoron]

9 minutes ago, peterfranks said:

 

We've had the climate change debate. There is global consensus aside from a few whack jobs who don't trust science. If you want to find credible evidence that humans aren't responsible for global warming go ahead but so far nobody has yet managed to find anything other than pseudoscience paid for by fossil fuel companies.

 

Claiming that climate deniers are wrong is a fair call.

[ozimoron]

38 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Being popular in Pakistan is hardly an arbiter of moral or scientific correctness. Or China or Australia and definitely  not Amerikia.

I never said it was. The flip side is that they are unpopular because they are wrong and go about preaching their ignorance and inability to fathom science as if it were a religion or a badge of honour. That's why they are not popular, not because they reasonably question the status quo or think outside the box or aren't sheep.

Edited August 30, 2022 by ozimoron

[Foghorn]

Yes, extreme hot ,extreme cool and extreme mild , 

[Dirk Z]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

No it isn't. It's 100% down to human activity, stop spreading disinformation. The jury 

Completely agree. It's hard to understand how people can deny this. 

Edited August 30, 2022 by Dirk Z

[allanos]

Earth's climate has been changing since it was formed, around 4bn years ago.

 

How much is anthropomorphically-induced is the subject of vigorous debate.

Will "net zero" arrest or reverse "climate change"? Seems highly unlikely.

 

Allow a lengthy period to go past the attainment of "net zero" and what will the

climate change (once called global warming until it was shown that the reverse is true),

theorists and activists attribute it to?

 

Or will they have found a new bandwagon to jump on? 

 

(Generally speaking, once one sees the bandwagon is rolling, it is already too late)!

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

Just now, allanos said:

Earth's climate has been changing since it was formed, around 4bn years ago.

 

How much is anthropomorphically-induced is the subject of vigorous debate.

Will "net zero" arrest or reverse "climate change"? Seems highly unlikely.

 

Allow a lengthy period to go past the attainment of "net zero" and what will the

climate change (once called global warming until it was shown that the reverse is true),

theorists and activists attribute it to?

 

Or will they have found a new bandwagon to jump on? 

 

(Generally speaking, once one sees the bandwagon is rolling, it is already too late)!

 

 

 

Yes it has been changing, usually in a known direction, either warming or cooling. Currently the Earth is in a natural cooling phase. The difference is that now it's happening millions of times faster than at any time in the past. Other metrics like CO2 levels are at highs not seen for nearly a million years.

 

No, there is not "vigorous debate". There is the same fake science lobbying from the fossil fuel companies as there was from tobacco companies when their cash cow was threatened. Some politicians amplify the BS because the fossil fuel companies pay them too.

[KhonKaenLive]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

This is due to climate change, he continued, with greehouse gases in the atmosphere that would cause "devastating consequences especially in countries that are economically fragile".

Another climate clown. Most likely just back from a WEF meeting on sustainable butt munching. 

 

Humans have adapted quite nicely to changes in the environment. Deaths due to severe weather have dropped dramatically in the last 150 years. But please, be afraid, just make sure it's not fear due to weather but to the clowns driving climate policy throughout the world. They will devastate society far more harshly than any floods.

 

Remember, we've never had floods before, so be afraid. 

[KhonKaenLive]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

No it isn't. It's 100% down to human activity, stop spreading disinformation. The jury isn't out.

hahaha

[Cake Monster]

8 hours ago, Crossy said:

And there was I thinking it was just a regular wet-season storm

 

Climate-change is real enough (just how much of it is down to us humans is debatable) but I don't think we can really put yesterday's bit of cloud down to it 100%.

I would put it down to the Chinese Rain making Chemicals drifting on the breeze over into Thailand.