Enoch Powell, he wasnt wrong in his forecast !

[NanLaew]

  On 9/2/2022 at 8:58 AM, proton said:

No you did not you merely claimed discussion of negros and immigration made him a 'racist'. When he was in Egypt he left a restaurant in protest when they would not serve a native he was with when they had a white only policy. Some racist!

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Oh! Redemption!! How sweet!!!

[proton]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:05 AM, transam said:

They never think of the costs, but always blast the government about financial problems, typical lefty stuff....

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Those with the open borders mentality always want somebody else to pay for it,  and never want to actually live near too many immigrants.

[giddyup]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:03 AM, NanLaew said:

Not so fast there Tonto.

 

Hands up those who are using immigration agents?

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Not me, and I get no rent assistance or free medical either.

[transam]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:05 AM, NanLaew said:

Easier to offer him a mirror maybe?

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Or his wife, mine is Asian, perhaps his is too....Yet, the racist word is banded about as a tool to prove absolutely nothing by the same people, time and time again........????

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 9/2/2022 at 8:58 AM, proton said:

No you did not you merely claimed discussion of negros and immigration made him a 'racist'. When he was in Egypt he left a restaurant in protest when they would not serve a native he was with when they had a white only policy. Some racist!

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Where did I state Powell’s discussion of negros and immigration made him a racist?

 

Please provide a direct quote of me stating that, or retract your assertion as unfounded.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:05 AM, transam said:

They never think of the costs, but always blast the government about financial problems, typical lefty stuff....

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There are things that are in the purview of Government, collecting taxes and allocating public spending budgets are two such things.

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 9/2/2022 at 6:34 AM, ozimoron said:

Powell defined racism as negro vs non-negro. That completely exposes his racist agenda right there.

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He was speaking in the 1950s/60's when at the time, there was a noticeable difference between the different races as racial integration o a World scale  hadn't yet began 

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:10 AM, transam said:

Or his wife, mine is Asian, perhaps his is too....Yet, the racist word is banded about as a tool to prove absolutely nothing by the same people, time and time again........????

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I strongly suggest a bit of reading around that defense.

[transam]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:17 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

There are things that are in the purview of Government, collecting taxes and allocating public spending budgets are two such things.

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Rob the pensioners to feed your illegal immigrants, for instance, or the NHS, which you already trash the gov for lack of funding, none of your financial stuff adds up, just crystal ball stuff...... ...????

[transam]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:20 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I strongly suggest a bit of reading around that defense.

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What, the ones you read to blast your own country, no, thank you...????

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:22 AM, transam said:

Rob the pensioners to feed your illegal immigrants, for instance, or the NHS, which you already trash the gov for lack of funding, none of your financial stuff adds up, just crystal ball stuff...... ...????

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‘My illegal immigrants’.

 

Can you please try to keep your ‘contributions’ to this discussion rational.

[NanLaew]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:05 AM, transam said:

They never think of the costs, but always blast the government about financial problems, typical lefty stuff....

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Needs a lefty government. People have gotten soft on the Tory tit.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:24 AM, transam said:

What, the ones you read to blast your own country, no, thank you...????

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I’m not sure how you know what I have read, let alone what is my ‘own country’, even if that were relevant, which it is not.

 

But I do suggest you read a bit about racists and SE Asian women.

[transam]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:30 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure how you know what I have read, let alone what is my ‘own country’, even if that were relevant, which it is not.

 

But I do suggest you read a bit about racists and SE Asian women.

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Weeeell, I have been around Asian women for many years now, plus I am also not a racist, so you are barking up the wrong tree from your soup kitchen in the UK....

Back on topic, what thoughts. of Brigadier Enoch Powell MBE, were actually put into UK immigration law....?

[NanLaew]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:10 AM, transam said:

Or his wife, mine is Asian, perhaps his is too....Yet, the racist word is banded about as a tool to prove absolutely nothing by the same people, time and time again........????

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Are you one of those people who feel compelled to say, "Some of my best friends are [insert race here]?

[ozimoron]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:19 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

He was speaking in the 1950s/60's when at the time, there was a noticeable difference between the different races as racial integration o a World scale  hadn't yet began 

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 Oh rubbish. Australia had the White Australian Policy in full swing by then. Racism then was as it now.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:36 AM, transam said:

Weeeell, I have been around Asian women for many years now, plus I am also not a racist, so you are barking up the wrong tree from your soup kitchen in the UK....

Back on topic, what thoughts. of Brigadier Enoch Powell MBE, were actually put into UK immigration law....?

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I never once called you a racist, never even suggested such a thing.

 

The topic is not which of Powell’s racist views were put into UK Immigration Law.

 

That’s another of your strawman distractions.

 

Feel free to re-read the OP for hints.

[NanLaew]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:19 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

He was speaking in the 1950s/60's when at the time, there was a noticeable difference between the different races as racial integration o a World scale  hadn't yet began 

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Ah. So even back then, he was a bit of a dinosaur already?

 

He'd be among friends on this thread.

 

Thanks.

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:38 AM, ozimoron said:

 Oh rubbish. Australia had the White Australian Policy in full swing by then. Racism then was as it now.

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You seem to have missed my point 

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:39 AM, NanLaew said:

Ah. So even back then, he was a bit of a dinosaur already?

 

He'd be among friends on this thread.

 

Thanks.

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I think defenders and admirers is a better description, I don’t think Powell would give anyone here, on either side of the discussion, the time of day.

 

[ozimoron]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:40 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

You seem to have missed my point 

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The definition of racism and people's perception of what it was has not changed. What's changed is that more people thought racism was normal back then due to ignorance, lack of travel and lack of education. The people changed, not the concept.

[transam]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:37 AM, NanLaew said:

Are you one of those people who feel compelled to say, "Some of my best friends are [insert race here]?

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I can, if you like, Mad Mick and Winston, both in their 60's, their  parents from the West Indies, I think, came over in the 60's.

Friends for near 40 years, from the Hotrod car scene....

Anything else......????

[proton]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:37 AM, NanLaew said:

Are you one of those people who feel compelled to say, "Some of my best friends are [insert race here]?

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'socialists' ? ????

[transam]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:39 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I never once called you a racist, never even suggested such a thing.

 

The topic is not which of Powell’s racist views were put into UK Immigration Law.

 

That’s another of your strawman distractions.

 

Feel free to re-read the OP for hints.

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You just can't/will not answer a very straight forward question regarding the OP subject, Brigadier Enoch Powell MBE.............????

[crouchpeter]

  On 9/1/2022 at 10:30 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Odd you should mention Bradford, with your snide dig.

 

I recommend watching the TV series ‘Bradford on Duty’.

 

It’s a fly on the wall look at people in public service working for the good of the Bradford community.

 

It’s an excellent look at Bradford people from a wide range of ethnic and religious backgrounds demonstrating the very best values of community, real British values.

 

You of course might not like it.

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With your faith in human nature, I'm surprised you haven't applied for the position as the new Dalai Lama!

[transam]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:39 AM, NanLaew said:

Ah. So even back then, he was a bit of a dinosaur already?

 

He'd be among friends on this thread.

 

Thanks.

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You speak for yourself.......................????

[Baht Simpson]

  On 9/2/2022 at 4:27 AM, wombat said:

and look where we all are now

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Demonstrably untrue. The U.K. Race Relations Act covers discrimination against peoples of any colour or race.

[NanLaew]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:47 AM, transam said:

You speak for yourself.......................????

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Weeeell, you are the one with this Brigadier/MBE fixation.

[crouchpeter]

  On 9/1/2022 at 12:09 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

Odd the Racist Powell never predicted better food, better music, better athletes and better everything really.

 

Going back to live in early 60s UK would be a nightmare.

 

All those women in head scarves and men smelling of Woodbines.

 

Nah, leave the Racist Powell where he belongs, in a long dead history.

 

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You can't be serious? Better food, but from Indians, not Africans, better music... you're having a laugh, and better athletes....who gives a toss! Oh, I forgot; more frequent and more successful stabbings, and more drugs.

[NanLaew]

  On 9/2/2022 at 9:07 AM, NanLaew said:

  On 9/2/2022 at 8:58 AM, proton said:

No you did not you merely claimed discussion of negros and immigration made him a 'racist'. When he was in Egypt he left a restaurant in protest when they would not serve a native he was with when they had a white only policy. Some racist!

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Oh! Redemption!! How sweet!!!

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On second thoughts, he took umbrage at his fellah being denied service. That was jolly white of our Enoch, eh?