Russia appreciates Thailand's understanding of reasons behind special operation — Lavrov

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

This thread is essentially about Thailand and Russia getting together to thrash out understandings - over maybe many different issues. One of those was Ukraine. It transpires that there is a an appreciation of the events leading up the 'special operation'  by Thailand.

 

Thailand is not in the west. It is part of the vast majority - both in land mass and numbers of people - that do not accept the US's line.

 

Quite a few posters cannot accept that their view on the conflict is a minority one. This view is, IMO, a war-mongering one. When an alternative point of view is promoted, it is quickly rubbished and the poster said to be a 'Putin apologist' or similar.

 

I want peace in Ukraine. And I also want the west to stop their incessant march towards totalism. Where only their system (the US hierarchy system)  is the right one. To quote a CIA boss a few years back; "Challenges will not be tolerated."

Your buying the propaganda that the US is a totalitarian system.. it is a true democracy and a young one, not a dictatorship like your birth country.  Tell me how Russia is a democracy.....

[anandra]

1 hour ago, voulez vous said:

That's a bit simplistic Anandra. I had a Russian girl friend a few yeas ago. She was very truthful.

 

To get peace we have to see the truth. That is not the truth of CNN, Washington, Reuters or the BBC alone. We have to hear the other points of view. But even if we hear the other points of view, it seems to me that the west - and more specifically the US - have plans to turn this conflict into an Afghanistan or Vietnam for the Russians.

 

I now think the best hope for peace - and it grieves me to say, as my own country of birth is involved - is a winter of suffering across Europe. The people have to start having a say in what their leaders are doing in their name.

 

 

You completely have zero idea what is going in there, Do not bring this dumb nonsense about the USA or other countries. Russia was killing and destrotying Ukraine during alll history, Do not tell me your brainwashed absurdity. About russian lie, I think you have enough brain to check what putin and lavrov said before the war and what they are telling now, Russian girlfriend, )))) total joke. bThe peace will be only after destruction of russia, and this absurdity creation will collapse into many countries, and different nations will be free.

[JimmyJ]

13 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes he is, a classic Alex Jones wanna be after appearing on his show a few times

Overall, we rate the UK Column a strong right-wing biased conspiracy website that frequently promotes false or misleading information.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/uk-column/

 

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George Galloway oh lordy...................................

 

The Twitter account of George Galloway has been labelled “Russia state-affiliated media” – and the former Labour MP is furious about it.

Galloway, who presented the Mother of All Talk Shows on Radio Sputnik, which is owned by the Kremlin, said he would sue the social media giant over the marking.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/george-galloway-twitter-russia_uk_624ddd56e4b0981745095c04

 

Hey its fun centering text eh, makes it all so much more important................not

It's so great that you have others telling you what it is safe for you to read.

 

Eliminates a lot of cognitive dissonance.

 

You are a smart person.

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, JimmyJ said:

It's so great that you have others telling you what it is safe for you to read.

 

Eliminates a lot of cognitive dissonance.

 

You are a smart person.

Truth of the matter is he is a man who spouts misinformation like Alex Jones and others...all done to raise money.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, JimmyJ said:

It's so great that you have others telling you what it is safe for you to read.

 

Eliminates a lot of cognitive dissonance.

 

You are a smart person.

Also known as confirmation of Russian propaganda, but then intellect is not something Russian trolls are known for.

[billd766]

5 hours ago, voulez vous said:

That's a bit simplistic Anandra. I had a Russian girl friend a few yeas ago. She was very truthful.

 

To get peace we have to see the truth. That is not the truth of CNN, Washington, Reuters or the BBC alone. We have to hear the other points of view. But even if we hear the other points of view, it seems to me that the west - and more specifically the US - have plans to turn this conflict into an Afghanistan or Vietnam for the Russians.

 

I now think the best hope for peace - and it grieves me to say, as my own country of birth is involved - is a winter of suffering across Europe. The people have to start having a say in what their leaders are doing in their name.

 

 

In Europe they are allowed to have a say in what their leaders are doing.

 

In Russia you will be jailed for calling Putin's "special operation" a war, but that is what is truly is.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, JimmyJ said:

It's so great that you have others telling you what it is safe for you to read.

 

Eliminates a lot of cognitive dissonance.

 

You are a smart person.

Would that include voulex vous and people like you who support him?

[superal]

16 hours ago, placeholder said:

The advances keep coming

 

"Local officials in the Kharkiv region say the Ukrainian flag has been raised in settlements close to the Russian border, confirming the continuing retreat of Russian forces in the area.

Oleksandr Kulik, an official in Derhachi northeast of the city of Kharkiv, said that the Ukrainian flag had been raised by local residents in the town of Kozacha Lopan...

It is five kilometers from the Russian border and has been extensively damaged during the conflict."

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-09-11-22/index.html

I would like to see Ukraine invade Russian territory and inflict some structural damage on them so that they will know what it feels like and also take control of the gas and oil lines 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, superal said:

I would like to see Ukraine invade Russian territory and inflict some structural damage on them so that they will know what it feels like and also take control of the gas and oil lines 

Well, I believe that the gas and oil comes mostly from Siberia so that would be quite an invasion to mention nothing of an occupation.

[KhaoYai]

16 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

What a load of rubbish. The Crimea chose to go with Russia. The USA is waging war all over the place with 150 overseas bases. How many did they murder in Iraq and Afghanistan? Still in Syria stealing oil. Can't bear to see China getting ahead, dreaming up all kinds of ways to screw them. Truly an evil pox on the world. I have friends just returned from the Ukraine ,they welcome the Russians coming to run off the gangsters currently running the country.

Its perplexing how you have the gaul to say 'what a load of rubbish'. In order.......

 

1. 'Crimea chose to go with Russia' - you actually believe that?

2. I said currently.

3. It may surprise you to learn that the West involves far more countries than just the USA.

4. Iraq and Afghanistan needed dealing with (the reasons used may have been false).

5. You don't think China is an 'evil pox on the world' then - even with its concentration camps?

6.  I have little knowledge of Ukraine other than its genuine desire for change - illustrated by the Maidan uprising.  Change doesn't happen in a day you know?

7. Gangsters??? You talk about gangsters in Ukraine? Russia is run by a bloody gangster!!

[rudi49jr]

5 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Its perplexing how you have the gaul to say 'what a load of rubbish'. In order.......

 

1. I said currently.

2. It may surprise you to learn that the West involves far more countries than just the USA.

3. Iraq and Afghanistan needed dealing with (the reasons used may have been false).

4. You don't think China is an 'evil pox on the world' then - even with its concentration camps?

5.  I have little knowledge of Ukraine other than its genuine desire for change - illustrated by the Maidan uprising.  Change doesn't happen in a day you know?

6. Gangsters??? You talk about gangsters in Ukraine? Russia is run by a bloody gangster!!

7. You forgot to mention that Crimea most certainly did not ‘choose’ to go with Russia, as that poster claimed. 
8. Ukrainians most certainly didn’t/don’t welcome the Russians. On the contrary, I would say, as anyone can witness on a daily basis. 

[rudi49jr]

As expected, after having to retreat with their tails between their legs, the Russians show themselves to be petty and sore losers and resort to acts of sabotage and terrorism. No wonder they are fleeing in such large numbers, it’s because they know they are despised by the Ukrainians and fear reprisals.

 

 

[placeholder]

7 hours ago, JimmyJ said:

It's so great that you have others telling you what it is safe for you to read.

 

Eliminates a lot of cognitive dissonance.

 

You are a smart person.

And here, for comic relief, is a report from TASS

Russia shows footage of killing Ukrainian mortar troops for advance in Kharkov Region

https://tass.com/defense/1506097

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There are unconfirmed reports that a massive surrender is about to happen in Kherson. I'll believe it when it actually happens. Still, here's the report:

Putin reeling as elite marine unit mutinies and troops prepare to 'surrender' in Kherson

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1667998/putin-news-russian-marines-mutiny-kherson-kharkiv-counter-ukraine-war-latest

 

Here's hoping.

[daejung]

Too bad avalaible smileys are now very restricted

[billd766]

29 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And here, for comic relief, is a report from TASS

Russia shows footage of killing Ukrainian mortar troops for advance in Kharkov Region

https://tass.com/defense/1506097

Thank you for the link.

 

Now I now where to look when I get bored and in need of a good laugh.

[KhaoYai]

13 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

7. You forgot to mention that Crimea most certainly did not ‘choose’ to go with Russia, as that poster claimed. 
8. Ukrainians most certainly didn’t/don’t welcome the Russians. On the contrary, I would say, as anyone can witness on a daily basis. 

I did when I edited it - you replied too fast ????

[tomyami]

Russia deserves a massive weather ecological event where thousands are killed made homeless similar to what unfortunately Pakistan had.

They need this for their many murderous adventures around the world

[chalawaan]

When the buffoons in BKK realise they backed the wrong pony, it will all be a misunderstanding.

Just for once I'd like to see these Teflon Thai grifters get their come-uppance. 

[lapamita]

On 9/12/2022 at 5:22 AM, anandra said:

The peace will be only after destruction of russia, and this absurdity creation will collapse into many countries, and different nations will be free.

you have no clue about Russia . ( and no clue about ukraine )

there are many countrys in the EEU , who are very satified 

to the rest i dont want even comment 

Peace and the word distruction ..its fitting 

[lapamita]

1 hour ago, tomyami said:

Russia deserves a massive weather ecological event where thousands are killed made homeless similar to what unfortunately Pakistan had.

They need this for their many murderous adventures around the world

the next non brainer post.

special the last...murderous adventures

the most murderous adventures are done by US  in the past..read wikpedia

 

and actual 400000 killed in yemen , france delivering offensive weapons worth 12 bio usd to UAE

but who cares its yemen .  more kids die there ,than anywhere in ukraine ,who cares ..new friends are the UAE ,whatever they do ,or new friends are the killer asabajew who make shake hands with EUs van der layen ,,who cares ,and they all laughing abut the stupidness  of eu and us

[transam]

5 minutes ago, lapamita said:

the next non brainer post.

special the last...murderous adventures

the most murderous adventures are done by US  in the past..read wikpedia

 

and actual 400000 killed in yemen , france delivering offensive weapons worth 12 bio usd to UAE

but who cares its yemen .  more kids die there ,than anywhere in ukraine ,who cares ..new friends are the UAE ,whatever they do ,or new friends are the killer asabajew who make shake hands with EUs van der layen ,,who cares ,and they all laughing abut the stupidness  of eu and us

????

 

9 minutes ago, lapamita said:

the next non brainer post.

special the last...murderous adventures

the most murderous adventures are done by US  in the past..read wikpedia

 

and actual 400000 killed in yemen , france delivering offensive weapons worth 12 bio usd to UAE

but who cares its yemen .  more kids die there ,than anywhere in ukraine ,who cares ..new friends are the UAE ,whatever they do ,or new friends are the killer asabajew who make shake hands with EUs van der layen ,,who cares ,and they all laughing abut the stupidness  of eu and us

????..............

[Bkk Brian]

Moscow Officials Urge Putin to GTFO: ‘Everything Went Wrong’

 

Just one day after several municipal deputies in Putin’s hometown of St. Petersburg called on the State Duma to try the Russian leader for treason, their colleagues in Moscow joined in and demanded he step down because his views are “hopelessly outdated.”

 

“We ask you to relieve yourself of your post due to the fact that your views and your governance model are hopelessly outdated and hinder the development of Russia and its human potential,” the deputies said in closing.

 

Even the pro-Kremlin Telegram channels run by Russian military bloggers had a dramatic change of tune as Ukraine claimed new wins Saturday: They began to openly blast military leadership—and Putin personally—for the embarrassing failures.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/moscow-officials-urge-vladimir-putin-to-give-up-power?ref=scroll

[ThailandRyan]

27 minutes ago, lapamita said:

you have no clue about Russia . ( and no clue about ukraine )

there are many countrys in the EEU , who are very satified 

to the rest i dont want even comment 

Peace and the word distruction ..its fitting 

Destruction and takeover created by Putin, but alas Karma seems to be biting his rear end right now.

[ThailandRyan]

24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Moscow Officials Urge Putin to GTFO: ‘Everything Went Wrong’

 

Just one day after several municipal deputies in Putin’s hometown of St. Petersburg called on the State Duma to try the Russian leader for treason, their colleagues in Moscow joined in and demanded he step down because his views are “hopelessly outdated.”

 

“We ask you to relieve yourself of your post due to the fact that your views and your governance model are hopelessly outdated and hinder the development of Russia and its human potential,” the deputies said in closing.

 

Even the pro-Kremlin Telegram channels run by Russian military bloggers had a dramatic change of tune as Ukraine claimed new wins Saturday: They began to openly blast military leadership—and Putin personally—for the embarrassing failures.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/moscow-officials-urge-vladimir-putin-to-give-up-power?ref=scroll

Our Russian apologist will be along shortly to tell us it is all fake propaganda designed to give the west a false sense of accomplishment and will make Ukraine sue for peace.

[Lacessit]

37 minutes ago, lapamita said:

you have no clue about Russia . ( and no clue about ukraine )

there are many countrys in the EEU , who are very satified 

to the rest i dont want even comment 

Peace and the word distruction ..its fitting 

 

37 minutes ago, lapamita said:

you have no clue about Russia . ( and no clue about ukraine )

there are many countrys in the EEU , who are very satified 

to the rest i dont want even comment 

Peace and the word distruction ..its fitting 

The literacy of your post tells me all I need to know about how many clues you have.

Russia is a collection of tribes, who have never matured to a democracy because they were kept on the run for centuries by the Mongols and Tartars.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

Our Russian apologist will be along shortly to tell us it is all fake propaganda designed the west a false sense of accomplishment and will make Ukraine sue for peace.

Or they may refer to the Russian lawmakers who in July blamed the Ukraine resistance on its biologically modified Ukrainian super soldiers. ????

 

Russian lawmakers baselessly claim their army is up against biologically modified Ukrainian super soldiers

Two Russian lawmakers this week pushed the absurd conspiracy theory that Ukrainians were being turned into "cruel and deadly monsters" in the country's bio labs.

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Or they may refer to the Russian lawmakers who in July blamed the Ukraine resistance on its biologically modified Ukrainian super soldiers. ????

 

Russian lawmakers baselessly claim their army is up against biologically modified Ukrainian super soldiers

Two Russian lawmakers this week pushed the absurd conspiracy theory that Ukrainians were being turned into "cruel and deadly monsters" in the country's bio labs.

Super soldiers, like the terminator or Universal Soldier....

[rudi49jr]

13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Our Russian apologist will be along shortly

Which one? This thread is crawling with them, never seen so many before on this forum.

[Lacessit]

On 9/12/2022 at 2:40 PM, superal said:

I would like to see Ukraine invade Russian territory and inflict some structural damage on them so that they will know what it feels like and also take control of the gas and oil lines 

The danger of that proposition is Putin would become so unhinged he would start using nukes.

Having said that, I would like to see the Ukrainians take back Crimea, so Russian holidaymakers would see how badly Putin has misled them.

The EU is steadily transitioning away from dependence on Russian gas, no-one wants a supplier who blackmails them. Another Putin error, he has lost three-quarters of his energy market. The Ukrainians don't need to do anything.

IIRC, it was Napoleon who said never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.