60-70% Of Thais Have Been Infected With Covid: Expert

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TNR staff

 

A THAI medical expert said in a Facebook post today (Sept. 21) that blood tests previously carried out indicate that around 60-70% of the population have been infected with Covid-19, particularly the dominant Omicron subvariant, Matichon newspaper said.

 

Dr. Yong Phuworawan, the head of the Centre of Excellence in Clinical Virology at the Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University, said Covid infection is still widespread in the country and it is not possible to work out the real tally of patients with or without symptoms with the daily reported cases being lower than the actual total. 

 

This is so because many patients either have few symptoms or are asymptomatic particularly after the Omicron subvariant took hold.

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2022/09/21/60-70-of-thais-have-been-infected-with-covid-expert/

 

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Virologist claims 70 percent of Thais may have been infected with COVID-19
 

 

Up to 70% of the population of Thailand may have been infected with COVID-19, as most cases have not been officially recorded because they were asymptomatic or had only mild symptoms, according to Dr. Yong Poovorawan, head of the Centre of Excellence in Clinical Virology at the Faculty of Medicine at Chulalongkorn University.

 

He said that the estimated infection rate is based on the assessments of blood tests conducted so far, adding that the Omicron variant has spread widely in the past several months, but most of people did not report their infections to health authorities because they had no or only mild symptoms and only those admitted for treatment at hospitals have been recorded.

 

He said, however, that the Disease Control Department, with funding from the Health Systems Research Institute (HSRI), will conduct an extensive survey to determine the extent of COVID-19 infection in the Thai population, using blood tests to find traces of infection or developed resistance through anti-nucleocapsid and anti-spike IgG tests.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/virologist-claims-70-percent-of-thais-may-have-been-infected-with-covid-19/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-09-21

 

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[TheFishman1]

Is it getting to the point of heard immunity

[overherebc]

2 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

Is it getting to the point of heard immunity

What have you herd about that?

[khunPer]

1 hour ago, TheFishman1 said:

Is it getting to the point of heard immunity

Probably not, as the virus mutates, just like we still haven't reached herd immunity for cold and flu...

Edited September 21, 2022 by khunPer

[Aussieroaming]

So the official figures were  nonsense lowball figures as many people alluded to. The citizens were locked down, real infection rates ignored or hidden, the government spinning lies about how well Thailand has reacted to the pandemic in comparison to the rest of the world. 

 

Maybe Thais will finally relinquish the face mask ???? and get on with smiling.

[Fairynuff]

1 hour ago, TheFishman1 said:

Is it getting to the point of heard immunity

I’ve never heard of that

[rwill]

While I know people that have had Covid here it is nowhere near 70% of them.

 

'may have' seems to be the key words here.

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Up to 70% of the population of Thailand may have been infected with COVID-19

 

[jak2002003]

Oh dear. So what was / is the point of them all so strictly wearing masks, getting vaccines and generally wetting their pants over it?  

 

 

[Fairynuff]

6 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:

Maybe Thais will finally relinquish the face mask ???? and get on with smiling.

I won’t be, it’s just not an issue. Back in my home country right now and half the people I was intending to see currently have Covid 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Oh dear. So what was / is the point of them all so strictly wearing masks, getting vaccines and generally wetting their pants over it? 

 

Variously....

 

--to keep people from dying of COVID.

 

--to keep people from ending up sick in the hospital from COVID.

 

--to as much as possible prevent people from spreading COVID to others, who then end up dying or getting sick from COVID.

 

--to prevent people from being unable to work post-COVID infections because they have long COVID symptoms like shortness of breath, inability to concentrate, "brain fog," etc etc.

 

--to prevent COVID from prematurely killing off huge numbers of elderly people living in nursing homes and community care facilities.

 

etc etc....

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Clarkey611]

100% of the 60 - 70% were infected by "dirty" farangs said a nut in charge.

[wwest5829]

Just curious. Have the newest Pfizer/Moderna vaccines arrived and widely distributed in Thailand?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Just curious. Have the newest Pfizer/Moderna vaccines arrived and widely distributed in Thailand?

 

Nope, last recent update from the government here was projecting sometime into 2023.

 

[ukrules]

Assuming Omicron infections happened during the last 90 days that would be 500k per day.

 

This is a far more realistic number than anything I've read previously and fully in line with my expectations.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, rwill said:

While I know people that have had Covid here it is nowhere near 70% of them.

 

'may have' seems to be the key words here.

 

Among members of my family, my wife's friends and the few people I know it's close to 100%. My wife and I are almost the only people we know who haven't had it.

[jak2002003]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Variously....

 

--to keep people from dying of COVID.

 

--to keep people from ending up sick in the hospital from COVID.

 

--to as much as possible prevent people from spreading COVID to others, who then end up dying or getting sick from COVID.

 

--to prevent people from being unable to work post-COVID infections because they have long COVID symptoms like shortness of breath, inability to concentrate, "brain fog," etc etc.

 

--to prevent COVID from prematurely killing off huge numbers of elderly people living in nursing homes and community care facilities.

 

etc etc....

 

But it says 70 per cent got it. 

 

So it did not prevent all those things did it?  

 

 

[Millcx]

Isn’t it fantastic that Colds and Flu have been 100% irradiated … Brill “;0)

[oslooskar]

1 hour ago, jak2002003 said:

Oh dear. So what was / is the point of them all so strictly wearing masks, getting vaccines and generally wetting their pants over it?  

 

 

We are all going to come into contact with Covid sooner or later. The point of vaccines is to give your body as much resistance to it as medically possible.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

But it says 70 per cent got it. 

 

So it did not prevent all those things did it? 

 

COVID-19 vaccines saved an estimated 20 million lives in 1 year

Jun 24, 2022

 

"COVID vaccines reduced the potential global death toll during the pandemic by almost two-thirds in their first year, saving an estimated 19.8 million lives, according to a mathematical modeling study yesterday in The Lancet Infectious Diseases."

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/06/covid-19-vaccines-saved-estimated-20-million-lives-1-year

 

AND

 

Half a million in Thailand saved by Covid vaccine

 

Thai researcher believes that the government’s Covid-19 vaccination campaign has saved over 490,000 lives over the last two years.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1266704-half-a-million-in-thailand-saved-by-covid-vaccine/

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

3 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

Is it getting to the point of heard immunity

No - for herd immunity to work, it requires that immunity - whether naturally or vaccine-acquired, stop transmission somewhere around 95% of the time (or more). This is known as sterilizing immunity.

 

As has become glaringly obvious however, neither having CoVid-19 nor being vaccinated against it, gives rise to sterilizing immunity.

As Khunper pointed out, it is much more likely to be like colds and flu where relatively large proportions of the population will get infected every year - and possibly even several times a year. 

 

Any chance of herd immunity started to recede with the Delta variant, and the chances have only diminished further with subsequent variants.   

 

Now, with the increased transmissibility and immune evasiveness of  Omicron and especially the BA.4 and BA.5 variants, the prospect of herd immunity is really only a distant memory.

 

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by GroveHillWanderer

[jak2002003]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

COVID-19 vaccines saved an estimated 20 million lives in 1 year

Jun 24, 2022

 

"COVID vaccines reduced the potential global death toll during the pandemic by almost two-thirds in their first year, saving an estimated 19.8 million lives, according to a mathematical modeling study yesterday in The Lancet Infectious Diseases."

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/06/covid-19-vaccines-saved-estimated-20-million-lives-1-year

 

AND

 

Half a million in Thailand saved by Covid vaccine

 

Thai researcher believes that the government’s Covid-19 vaccination campaign has saved over 490,000 lives over the last two years.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1266704-half-a-million-in-thailand-saved-by-covid-vaccine/

 

Oh, ok. But that is all theory isn't it?  How do we really know what would have happened. 

 

If they programmed that computer a different way the results would have been different. 

 

Maybe without vaccines there would have been a lot of sick / weak or immune suppressed people dying at the begining ....but after that it would not be any real problem, same as now.   Who knows?

 

They way they did it a lot of people still died, a lot still have long COVID, people still need to get vaccines and wear masks etc. AND lots of business have closed down, people lost their jobs, and some COVID medical companies / fAce mask suppliers etc have made a huge amount of money out of all this.

 

 

[loong]

In the cooler months at the turn of the year a lot of the people that I know contracted covid.

The official figures didn't reflect this upsurge in cases at all.

I think that 60-70% is most likely a reasonable figure.

The official figure of 6% of the population is complete hogwash!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

They way they did it a lot of people still died, a lot still have long COVID, people still need to get vaccines and wear masks etc.

The alternative of doing nothing clearly would have been far worse. And there's no credible source that suggests otherwise.

 

[onthedarkside]

Another post with unsourced and unsubstantiated claims and conspiracy theory elements has been removed.

 

[MrJ2U]

"60-70% Of Thais Have Been Infected With Covid: Expert"

 

Probably more like twice. 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by onthedarkside
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[kcpattaya]

Another scientific mastermind ????

[Eleftheros]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Dr. Yong Phuworawan, the head of the Centre of Excellence in Clinical Virology at the Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University, said Covid infection is still widespread in the country and it is not possible to work out the real tally of patients with or without symptoms with the daily reported cases being lower than the actual total. 

Why would he want to work out the "real tally of patients" when it appears that most of them now have mild or no symptoms? What's the point?

 

Concentrating on healing the sick would be a better strategy.

[paulikens]

Not according to Thais they haven't. it's a foreign disease????

[terryofcrete]

4 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

Is it getting to the point of heard immunity

So I heard .