Popular Post puchooay Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The higher your income, the more borrowed money the Government is handing you. The government are not handing money. Borrowing money to fund tax cuts does not involve giving money to individuals. The government are using the borrowed money to make up the shortfall to pay for services. Therefore, everyone benefits from the borrowed money. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Oh right, so somebody earning less then £20,000 a year gets less than £100 help in tax breaks, someone earning £100,000 gets a £1000 oh tax breaks. Not a Trope, a fact. So those on 100k are "wealthy"? Looks like we are getting somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: After over a decade of Tory austerity it’s difficult to claim people have been treated with ‘Kid Gloves’. But of course you need simple answers to address the complex problems faced by people you openly denigrate. Twelve years of Tory ‘tough love’ hasn’t solved anything, two more years of doubling down on failed policies will deliver nothing but more of the same failure. Twelve yeas of Tory love, you are right, get the layabout scroungers back to work, pay tax to help the NHS out, send aid to your food kitchen, you're on the right track now......???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said: What happened to Boris? Seemed like he was doing OK? He was, had a beer at the office and the "woke" balls it up.....Now the "woke" is complaining it is worse.....You can't make this stuff up.....???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JayClay Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, transam said: He was, had a beer at the office and the "woke" balls it up.....Now the "woke" is complaining it is worse.....You can't make this stuff up.....???? Except that's exactly what you just did.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelforbes Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, transam said: He was, had a beer at the office and the "woke" balls it up.....Now the "woke" is complaining it is worse.....You can't make this stuff up.....???? Isn't that the truth, it's pure UK political distraction and theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, baboon said: Thrown out by his own party due to his lies, corruption and incompetence. No, the "Woke" brigade that don't like a beer at an office party.......???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, baboon said: More rubbish straight from the paper that supported Hitler. Ah I see. Deflect with chilidish comments about the source rather than addressing the issue. Classy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, puchooay said: So those on 100k are "wealthy"? Looks like we are getting somewhere. Did I say those on £100K are wealthy or was that you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 A troll post has been removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Did I say those on £100K are wealthy or was that you? I asked a question. I did not "say" anything. That's another question you've failed to answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Ah I see. Deflect with chilidish comments about the source rather than addressing the issue. Classy. It was rubbish. And the Daily Mail did support Hitler. Don't have a go at me about it; take it up with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Oh a small fraction dribbles to the poor and non at all to those with incomes less than £12570 per year. They don't need it. They are already on tax credits/universal credit. Paid for with the borrowed money you keep saying benefits the wealthy. Edited October 5, 2022 by puchooay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, baboon said: It was rubbish. And the Daily Mail did support Hitler. Don't have a go at me about it; take it up with them. What has Hitler got to do with this thread........? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, puchooay said: I asked a question. I did not "say" anything. That's another question you've failed to answer. And asked a question too, you too failed to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, transam said: He was, had a beer at the office and the "woke" balls it up.....Now the "woke" is complaining it is worse.....You can't make this stuff up.....???? Now a girl wearing a suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, baboon said: It was rubbish. And the Daily Mail did support Hitler. Don't have a go at me about it; take it up with them. I'll ignore the silly Hitler deflection. Here's another source for the same story. https://nydailypaper.com/if-you-voted-tory-you-dont-deserve-to-be-resuscitated-by-the-nhs-outrage-over-nurses-outburst/ I'd find a left wing source for you, but for some reason they seem to be ignoring the story about this left wing nurse showing her "Be Kind" credentials for the world to see. I can't think why... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James105 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Oh a small fraction dribbles to the poor and non at all to those with incomes less than £12570 per year. And that’s the basis of you calling me a liar. I’ve never felt the need to call another member a liar, but then I deal with logical fact based arguments. The way to solve this then is to reduce the tax free allowance to (let's say) £5000. Then the people who earn less than £12570 will be able to benefit from the tax cuts! Everyones a winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 On 9/29/2022 at 4:12 PM, Mac Mickmanus said: May I ask you to stop laughing at my serious posts ? I have Kwasaki in another thread who laughs at all my posts and its getting rather annoying, thanks sorry as I just laughed at this one but couldn't resist 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, James105 said: The way to solve this then is to reduce the tax free allowance to (let's say) £5000. Then the people who earn less than £12570 will be able to benefit from the tax cuts! Everyones a winner! Putting aside your facetious humour, raising the tax free allowance would have given very direct help to those on low incomes and would have avoided handing large tax breaks to the wealthy. All earners would receive the same assistance. But of course that would not have handed large sums to the already wealthy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, stevenl said: Nice maths. That's 56 Billion extra, or 1.07 Billion per week Thanks Steven, I always appreciate compliments. At 56 Billion per year I could have rounded up to 1.08 Billion per week but I didn't want to exaggerate the increase in NHS funding under the Tories since the Brexit vote so I went with 1.07. And to think, they only promised 350 million. Always better to under promise and over deliver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I'll ignore the silly Hitler deflection. Here's another source for the same story. https://nydailypaper.com/if-you-voted-tory-you-dont-deserve-to-be-resuscitated-by-the-nhs-outrage-over-nurses-outburst/ I'd find a left wing source for you, but for some reason they seem to be ignoring the story about this left wing nurse showing her "Be Kind" credentials for the world to see. I can't think why... And this has what to do with the Pound slumping to an all time low against the Dollar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 But the extremely wealthy were scheduled to get a bigger percentage cut in their taxes until Truss relented. And the government plans to cut back the dividend tax which was recently raised to pay for health and social services. And cuts in dividend taxes will disproportionately favor the wealthy since a far higher percentage of their earnings comes from stock holdings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Multiple flames have been removed that accused another member of lying in this respect please take note of the following forum rule: 9. You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages. You will respect other members and post in a civil manner. Personal attacks, insults or hate speech posted on the forum or sent by private message are not allowed. Also removed some troll and bickering posts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: But the extremely wealthy were scheduled to get a bigger percentage cut in their taxes until Truss relented. And the government plans to cut back the dividend tax which was recently raised to pay for health and social services. And cuts in dividend taxes will disproportionately favor the wealthy since a far higher percentage of their earnings comes from stock holdings. That is a different point. The other poster stated that all we've seen is money to the wealthy. That was inaccurate since middle and low earners also got a tax break. Being a charitable kind of guy (not to mention kind, virtuous etc.) I will assume it was an honest mistake and she is genuinely incapable of understanding the finer points of the budget ????. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 B.S. Here's what you wrote It makes no sense to say "we are getting somewhere" if that was anything other than a rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, placeholder said: B.S. Here's what you wrote It makes no sense to say "we are getting somewhere" if that was anything other than a rhetorical question. Makes sense to me............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, transam said: Makes sense to me............ That's not surprising. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: Thanks Steven, I always appreciate compliments. At 56 Billion per year I could have rounded up to 1.08 Billion per week but I didn't want to exaggerate the increase in NHS funding under the Tories since the Brexit vote so I went with 1.07. And to think, they only promised 350 million. Always better to under promise and over deliver. And here's why the NHS budget increased https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/positions/nhs-funding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, candide said: And here's why the NHS budget increased https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/positions/nhs-funding Yes, a fabulous enterprise with fabulous staff, an enterprise continually providing and finding medical fixes for the populace which will cost money and continually rise. ???? One of the reasons for the continual influx of illegals to the UK, the NHS, the yellow brick A & E.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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