Thailand believes condemnation will reduce chances of resolving conflict in Ukraine

[stoner]

2 hours ago, mamypoko said:

$hame

nailed it. really nailed it. 

 

 

[Tropposurfer]

1 hour ago, pavloh said:

Putin goal is has and is to Denazify Ukraine and disarm. The Minsk agreements ratified by the UN we destroyed by the US and UK. There was a agreement made in Turkey a couple of months ago until BOJO went to Ukraine and destroyed it.

 

 

The west wants war 

Unadulterated rubbish

[Chopinbkk]

8 minutes ago, pavloh said:

BS putin since 2007 warned the west about moving nato east and they did. in 2014 usa organized a overthrow in ukraine Fact. They set up Bio labs and Nato training. They are nazi, even the western media admitted that until a couple of years ago. where did the Nazi go . oh yes  now they are nice nazi.  As for Zelensky he is a puppet  nothing more a cocaine snorting puppet.  

Are you the last victim of Putin's propaganda? How long do you need to free yourself from the lies of this criminal?

Edited October 14, 2022 by Chopinbkk

[BKKBike09]

The resolution demands that Russia “immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its military forces from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders.”

 

Thailand was quite happy to support the March UN Resolution. Flip flop. Flip flop. Makes abstention this time around a bit silly. Until you read that there's hope it will allow Thailand to buy gas from Russia at 'friendship prices'. 

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by BKKBike09

[stoner]

17 minutes ago, Derek B said:

The West does not have a propaganda machine - we have free speech by and large without the need to lock people up for up to 15 years.

 

did you actually post this as a serious comment ? 

[Chongalulu]

39 minutes ago, flossie35 said:

Nonsense. This is a war provoked by US/NATO to damage Russia. Ukraine - the cannon fodder - can't win. There will have to be a settlement, which will have to include transfer to Russia of the Russian-ethnic areas now in question. And Crimea.

Except it’s not working out like that for your ???????? comrades,eh? You mean a war (careful you might get called up for using the wrong terminology! ????)that US/NATO provoked by ‘hypnotising' Putin into invading Ukraine? ???? 

The cannon fodder are your Russian soldiers getting their erse handed to them so unequivocally they’re becoming the biggest supplier of weapons to Ukraine in their haste to retreat ! ???? 

Putin can’t even engage Ukrainian military so is reduced to wasting his depleted missile stocks at civilian targets,a sure sign of losing.Let me tell you how this plays out. If in desperation he deploys tactical nuclear in Ukraine he runs a severe risk of NATO using conventional weapons to completely destroy all Russian military and logistics in Ukraine-it wouldn’t take long now. He’s then faced with launching a nuclear attack on a NATO country. That writes Russia’s suicide note and the generals know it,so even if he’s tempted he’ll be overruled by those same generals who wish to continue living.

[Sharp]

I applaud Thailands stance.

Its about time other countries start seeing through the smoke and mirrors used by the West especially the US regarding proxy wars. 

And No im not a Putin fan but do some real investigation outside MSM and you'll see whats taking place. 

[Chopinbkk]

1 minute ago, pavloh said:

Make me laugh if some has a different option they are a Putin propaganda. So by your logic that make you a Nazi sympathizer 

I have a lot of spare time. But wasting it on Russia's trolls is not my thing. Good luck with your 'Fuehrer' in the Kremlin.

[Sharp]

7 minutes ago, Chopinbkk said:

Are you the last victim of Putin's propaganda? How long do you need to free yourself from the lies of this criminal?

And you as a victim of the West 

[Swampy999]

Imagine a very large country not far away sending its military and missiles here in a 'special military operation' and the majority of other countries do not condemn the action.

Thailand, money number one.

[Chongalulu]

2 minutes ago, pavloh said:

Oh look cnn in the house

About as coherent as Putin’s ‘special military operation'. ???? 

[pavloh]

1 minute ago, nchuckle said:

About as coherent as Putin’s ‘special military operation'. ???? 

I guess you think the west is winning.  

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, pavloh said:

Putin goal is has and is to Denazify Ukraine and disarm. The Minsk agreements ratified by the UN we destroyed by the US and UK. There was a agreement made in Turkey a couple of months ago until BOJO went to Ukraine and destroyed it.

 

 

The west wants war 

Presumably @pavlohposts this nonsense because he is safe from being lifted off the streets, taken to a mobilisation centre, given a few bits of uniform, a rusty old rifle, and delivered to a battlefield where he can mill around, hopelessly confused, unfed, untrained and unled until he ends up dead. All as part of the war which Putin so obliged the west by plotting, planning (spectacularly ineffectively), threatening for years and ultimately starting unilaterally. A war of "denazification", amongst whose first actions was to fire rockets at the site of and memorial to a major NAZI holocaust atrocity - Babi Yar. A war in which the Russian's ramshackle collection of semi trained conscripts, mercenaries and gangsters have distinguished themselves by shelling and rocketing civilians, murdering men women and children and leaving the bodies on the streets, and now that Ukraine is fighting back  Putin is threatening nuclear attacks on the west.

 

Yes, that will be it...

Edited October 14, 2022 by herfiehandbag

[crazykopite]

How can a military controlled government which illegally took power by way of a coupe condemn a Russian government for illegally invading a neighbouring country  

[pavloh]

2 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Presumably @pavlohposts this nonsense because he is safe from being lifted off the streets, taken to a mobilisation centre, given a few bits of uniform, a rusty old rifle, and delivered to a battlefield where he can mill around, hopelessly confused, unfed, untrained and untrained until he ends up dead. All as part of the war which Putin so obliged the west by plotting, planning (spectacularly ineffectively), threatening for years and ultimately starting unilaterally. A war of "denazification", amongst whose first actions was to fire rockets at the site of and memorial to a major NAZI holocaust atrocity.

 

Yes, that will be it...

Did you think all that yourself.  have you a Bandera poster on your wall

[Flying Saucage]

Reading this thread I find it quite astonishing how naive and gullible many posters are.

 

The situation and the background of the conflict in Ukraine is not just black and white, bad and good. There are many shades of grey!

 

I never was a friend of Putin, but how about the US and the Western so called "democracies"?

 

Okay, there never was the incident of Tonkin in Vietnam, and everything the US did there was good without any doubt.

 

Sure, Grenada was a thread to the US, there was no other choice than to bomb it.

 

And of course, it was absolutely necessary to bomb Panama just to catch the criminal Manual Noriega.

 

And Saddam Hussein surely had these weapons of mass distruction. I read it in Western media, so it must be true. I always believe Western media and propaganda!

 

And of course, the West never promised not to expand NATO to the east after the reunification of Germany.

 

Surely, Ukraine forces have not been killing civilians, women and children in the Donbass, they never did. 

 

And it's pure phantasy that the US build 26 bio-weapon laboratories in the Ukraine. The US never would do this.

 

As the US are always the good!

 

During the Kuba crisis, they couldn't accept soviet nukes in Cuba, which was good. But as Russia is always bad, now the Russians must accept the NATO a few hundred kilometres away from Moscow.

 

And of course brainwashing and propaganda only exists in Putins Russia.

 

Kudos to Thailand for staying neutral in this mess!

Edited October 14, 2022 by Flying Saucage

[DUNROAMIN]

Dont want to upset a future cash cow.

[jesimps]

Thais sitting on the fence as usual, they may as well not be there. Softest job in the world, Thailand's ambassador to the UN.

[kennw]

2 hours ago, pavloh said:

 

no just know that facts I am not a Nazi sympathizer are you

It seems that your "facts" are coming from comic books, Russian propaganda ones at that. The Ukraine leader is a Nazi ? Read the facts he is Jewish. 

[Bkk Brian]

17 minutes ago, pavloh said:

really rubbish. look it up. it is FACT

Looked it up many months ago, still rubbish

[pavloh]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Looked it up many months ago, still rubbish

you wont find it on CNN

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, Andycoops said:

Thai colours nailed to the mast aligning with the world's most repressive regimes, further damage to the country's standing and standards in world opinion.

Nobody in the world gives a rat's fart what a minor South East Asian backwater country does or thinks about anything, a country that has no influence in anything anywhere.

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, pavloh said:

 

no just know that facts I am not a Nazi sympathizer are you

 do know the President of Ukraine is jewish ? the only Nazis in Ukraine is the Russian army. GLORY TO UKRAINE.

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, pavloh said:

you wont find it on CNN

won't find what exactly, you've spewed so much unsubstantiated nonsense its hard to keep up. 

[futsukayoi]

2 hours ago, pavloh said:

 

no just know that facts I am not a Nazi sympathizer are you

Torture chambers, murder of prisoners and civilians, forced migrations, deliberate attacks on civilian targets.  There isonly one side in this conflict that are acting like Nazis and you clearly sypathize with them.  I would agree that demilitarising Ukraine could be a good thing if Russia moved all its troops out and Belarus plus all areas of Russia within 300 miles of any Nato state were also demilitarised.  After all it is clear that it is Nato countries that need assuraances of defenbce far more than the barbarian controlled states to their east.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, pavloh said:

You must be a bit slow . 

that's one way to avoid substantiating your claims, the other is to provide credible links, oh you won't find those on RT news.........

[jesimps]

1 hour ago, flossie35 said:

Nonsense. This is a war provoked by US/NATO to damage Russia. Ukraine - the cannon fodder - can't win. There will have to be a settlement, which will have to include transfer to Russia of the Russian-ethnic areas now in question. And Crimea.

Say that enough times and the Ukrainians might believe you, although I doubt it. They aren't as susceptible to Kremlin propaganda as the common brainwashed Orc. The Russian bear has a big mouth but no teeth, as everyone outside of Russia now knows.

[pavloh]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

that's one way to avoid substantiating your claims, the other is to provide credible links, oh you won't find those on RT news.........

you are struggling to keep up.  t you cant find a link about the minsk agreements. you can find a link that zelenski said before he was elected he would bring peace. really try google

[RayOday]

"A nation or civilization that continues to produce soft-minded men purchases its own spiritual death on the installment plan." MLK

Thailand's leadership are cowards. Some may say they are balancing delicate alliances. They  equivocate over conflicting self interests and as a result show they will fearfully bend to authoritarians or filthy lucre. I get the concerns about the economy, regional alliances, and self inflicted isolation from commitments by the leading global economies due to Thailand's lack of commitment to human principals of freedom. The tough guys at the top are only strong within their boundaries. On the global stage they beg for military and economic support. 

To not take a stand against a nuclear threatening  madman illustrates that they are uncommitted cowards. I am not saying the government isn't making some internal social progress yet on the global stage they play a weak hand. 

1. "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."
2. https://thediplomat.com/2022/10/why-did-thailand-abstain-on-this-weeks-un-vote-on-ukraine/
3.  

 

[jacko45k]

22 minutes ago, kennw said:

It seems that your "facts" are coming from comic books, Russian propaganda ones at that. The Ukraine leader is a Nazi ? Read the facts he is Jewish. 

I am amazed anyone could believe anything that comes from a Russian source these days....... you would have to be a moron!