jak2002003 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, GarryP said: Don't say that. I was just about to buy front row tickets. It will get a lot worse of she stays in control. They knew they will loose so will go for all they can get and ruin the county in the process... Then they probably will go and live the high live in some mansions in Europe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, jak2002003 said: Yes . And she was not elected by the public. Pointless comment; no Prime Minister is ever elected by the public - that is down to the party's selection process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, jak2002003 said: It will get a lot worse of she stays in control. They knew they will loose so will go for all they can get and ruin the county in the process... Then they probably will go and live the high live in some mansions in Europe. Lose and life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 57 minutes ago, puchooay said: You are making that up. There will be caps but not for everyone. There will be means tests done. You are making that up too. No decision has been made. the decisions have been unmade - do you think they will increase the amounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 52 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Anyone willing to try and defend her and give some positives to her tenure . Lets face it , if you turned Liz Truss into an atom and also turned Kwasi Kwarteng into an atom and put them both into the hadron collider and sent them in different directions , when they collide , Diane Abbot would appear as the result post that on the thread about racism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Anyone willing to try and defend her and give some positives to her tenure . Lets face it , if you turned Liz Truss into an atom and also turned Kwasi Kwarteng into an atom and put them both into the hadron collider and sent them in different directions , when they collide , Diane Abbot would appear as the result The crucial difference being that members of her party are wise enough to leave her as a backbencher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: The crucial difference being that members of her party are wise enough to leave her as a backbencher. Hasn't she been back and forth between the front and back benches and also held top positions like Shadow home secretary through out the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Hasn't she been back and forth between the front and back benches and also held top positions like Shadow home secretary through out the years You got me there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, kwilco said: the decisions have been unmade - do you think they will increase the amounts? Having checked your posts i see you wrote " no caps after April" That is incorrect . As has been pointed out. Edited October 19, 2022 by youreavinalaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, hotandsticky said: Pointless comment; no Prime Minister is ever elected by the public - that is down to the party's selection process. It's not a pointless comment. Realistically peoples votes are strongly influenced by the leader of the political party. If she was in charge at election time I strongly believe the there would be a few less people voting conservative...dont you,? Edited October 19, 2022 by jak2002003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: Having checked your posts i see you wrote " no caps after April" That is incorrect . As has been pointed out. The caps were guaranteed now that has been withdrawn - what do you think will happen and how do you think affects the point I'm making? Edited October 19, 2022 by kwilco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 hours ago, hotandsticky said: Pointless comment; no Prime Minister is ever elected by the public - that is down to the party's selection process. the problem is that the Tory party can't appoint a functioning PM - the last one told lies and this one wrecked the economy, and they can't even find a replacement now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post champers Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) Suella Braverman, politically just to the right of Gengis Khan, has departed as Home Secretary per BBC. Grant Schapps being touted to replace her. Rats. Sinking. Ship. Edited October 19, 2022 by champers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Scary, she looks like the no.1 witch, Thatcher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, kwilco said: the problem is that the Tory party can't appoint a functioning PM - the last one told lies and this one wrecked the economy, and they can't even find a replacement now. Truss is still PM , would need to wait until She is no longer PM before they can find a replacement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Truss is still PM , would need to wait until She is no longer PM before they can find a replacement . Effectively Hunt has already replaced er - they now have the home secretary resigned and Chapps from the Rishi camp is in - basically there has been a coup - everything she wanted to do has been reversed and she is being replaced with Rishi's "mainstream" cabinet. She just has the name but none of the functions. the 1922 Committee can replace her immediately if they want - but the truth is the Tories can't form a cabinet or pick a PM - but they don't have to wait, she has already been sidelined on everything she wanted to do. Edited October 19, 2022 by kwilco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, kwilco said: Effectively Hunt has already replaced er - they now have the home secretary resigned and Chapps form the Rishi camp is in - basically there has been a coup - everything she wanted to do has been reversed and she is being replaced with Rishi's "mainstream" cabinet. She just has the name but none of the functions. the 1922 Committee can replace her immediately if they want - but the truth is the Tories can't form a cabinet or pick a PM - but they don't have to wait, she has already been sidelined on everything she wanted to do. Truss is still currently UK Prime Minister ,but She doesn't seem to have the confidence of the Conservative party and She could very well lose her job on the near future and its possibly that Hunt may take over as PM or even Boris may get the job again . The Conservative party is in turmoil at the moment , but there hasn't been a coup and Truss is till PM (Coup "a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Tick tick tick…braverman gone, who’s next one wonders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Tick tick tick…braverman gone, who’s next one wonders You must be thoroughly enjoying all this turmoil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 BBC say Grant Schapps was in charge of the spreadsheet that listed those MPs who wanted Truss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: You must be thoroughly enjoying all this turmoil truss is everything I said she was during the leadership campaign. Incompetent, clueless about policy details and unable to heal the divisions in the party. She spent months promoting her tax cut blah blah blah despite this policy being exposed as unworkable by economists and members of her own party. And when the budget imploded in her face she threw the chancellor, who had argued against some of the proposals in the budget, under the bus to save her own worthless skin. She has been an unmitigated disaster as pm and has given the opposition a real opportunity of overturning a 70 plus majority. Am I enjoying it, no. The turmoil of this inept incompetent’s premiership is hurting the country as a whole and she needs to go. The tories are divided and, it seems, incapable of forming any type of coherent governance while their internal civil war rages on. The reality is they are not fit to govern and the sooner an election occurs the better for everyone. Edited October 19, 2022 by Bluespunk Punctuation 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 While she's not as bad as the US's Sarah Palin she is making the same mistakes: just because someone can manage to get on the ballot or actually obtain a position of authority does not mean they have the wherewithal for the job. By her body language and facial expression these days I think she has figured that out about herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) Braverman not going gently into that good night. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/19/liz-truss-government-on-the-brink-after-suella-bravermans-parting-shot?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other “Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.“ The Second Coming William Butler Yeats Edited October 19, 2022 by Bluespunk Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) Fighting in the LobbY!!! Whips resigning using the "F" word and then "un-resigning" Home secretary gone! I have to confess to a certain frisson of schadenfreude ....... Make no mistake - this started with Brexit - they called it "project fear"! Edited October 19, 2022 by kwilco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: She doesn't seem to have the confidence of the Conservative party and She could very well lose her job on the near future No Sh** Sherlock????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, kwilco said: No Sh** Sherlock????? Just replying to your claim that Truss is no longer PM and that Hunt has replaced her in a coup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 10:25 AM, baboon said: Maybe the election is to be held next week...? Bring back Boz (Johnson), he's more entertaining! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Just replying to your claim that Truss is no longer PM and that Hunt has replaced her in a coup I have to say that I find your posts on this thread and on others extremely underwhelming. Your literal and naive interpretations of people's comments seem to belie a pitiful lack of understanding .... of just about anything being discussed. Edited October 19, 2022 by kwilco 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, 2baht said: Bring back Boz (Johnson), he's more entertaining! ???? He started all this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, kwilco said: I have to say that I find your posts on this thread and on others extremely underwhelming. Your literal and naive interpretations of people's comments seem to belie a pitiful lack of understanding .... of just about anything being discussed. Says you who claims that the UK cannot find a New PM to replace Truss who has been removed in a coup !!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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