Popular Post JayClay Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 Congratulations on your legacy, Liz. You were the shortest serving PM in British history and you manage to cause unprecedented damage to your party and country in those 6 short weeks. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, JayClay said: Congratulations on your legacy, Liz. You were the shortest serving PM in British history and you manage to cause unprecedented damage to your party and country in those 6 short weeks. And let's not forget that the conservative party members elected her and somehow they thought she is the best person in that whole party to lead them. Wow. Lose/lose. You did it! And what will be next? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JayClay Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said: And what will be next? Brand new reports on LBC that Boris is trying to return as leader, that's what! ????????♂️ 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 hours ago, JayClay said: Brand new reports on LBC that Boris is trying to return as leader, that's what! ????????♂️ Maybe he is the best they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Maybe he is the best they have? Then they have nothing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JayClay Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Maybe he is the best they have? It depends on how you define "best". It would need to be an extremely loose interpretation of the word, at best. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: And let's not forget that the conservative party members elected her and somehow they thought she is the best person in that whole party to lead them. Wow. Lose/lose. You did it! And what will be next? You've never picked a woman you thought was great, but turned out a disaster when you got her home then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezLez Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: And let's not forget that the conservative party members elected her and somehow they thought she is the best person in that whole party to lead them. No they did not select her as the best person from the whole party. The membership were only offered a choice of her or Rushi after the MPs had had their votes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, DezLez said: No they did not select her as the best person from the whole party. The membership were only offered a choice of her or Rushi after the MPs had had their votes. After Tory MPs had had their votes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: You've never picked a woman you thought was great, but turned out a disaster when you got her home then? That depends on what I had in mind with that woman. We can all guess but never know about the bedroom performance before we try it. But when we look for a person for a top management job there are lots of criteria to look for. One is to look at her/his past performance over the last years. Is this person capable and suitable for that new job? For Liz Truss the answers are obviously No and No. But then again, do they still have any capable people left in that party? And if there are any, does any of them want that job in the current situation? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 15 hours ago, roger101 said: Grove Gove has stated he is not running, so has Hunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 7:34 AM, Scott said: Truss has come from relatively humble beginnings to dominate a world inhabited largely by men. Did she actually successfully dominate anything? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 15 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Liz Truss resigns as UK prime minister sparking Tory leadership race as Labour and Lib Dems call for general election – live Liz Truss resigns as UK prime minister sparking Tory leadership race as Labour and Lib Dems call for general election – live (theguardian.com) the same person who said 2 days ago " I am a fighter not a quitter"" ???????????? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Gove has stated he is not running, so has Hunt. Obviously sensible guys! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 hours ago, DezLez said: No they did not select her as the best person from the whole party. The membership were only offered a choice of her or Rushi after the MPs had had their votes. Agreed, they selected her as the only white person on the ballot form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 9:42 PM, JonnyF said: This was your post.... I repeat, The Guardian is not "The UK Press". It is an extreme left wing tabloid whose contributors are often self declared Communists. They are not representative of the UK press as a whole. Now that we have cleared that up. Let's get back on topic. For now Truss remains. It's been a tough start to the job amidst lots of pressure from within her party, the opposition and the left wing MSM. If she survives this, she can survive anything. It remains to be seen if she will survive but I'm betting a lot of people are wishing they hadn't made such a big deal of Boris having a glass of wine and a piece of cake. The Guardian is widely known as the best and most reliable English newspaper in the entire world. It is also one of the very few British publications which did not cheer on Liz 'Twas and her disastrous economic policies. Obviously fascist readers of the Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, The Sun and the like would not see it that way. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, pegman said: The Guardian is widely known as the best and most reliable English newspaper in the entire world. It is also one of the very few British publications which did not cheer on Liz 'Twas and her disastrous economic policies. Obviously fascist readers of the Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, The Sun and the like would not see it that way. Ah, the old "If you're not an extreme Leftist you must be a fascist" argument. Good to see you keeping it classy Pegman. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Ah, the old "If you're not an extreme Leftist you must be a fascist" argument. Good to see you keeping it classy Pegman. ???? It’s an accusation that can be justifiably laid against the Daily Mail, The Express and the Times. Historical facts. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Ah, the old "If you're not an extreme Leftist you must be a fascist" argument. Good to see you keeping it classy Pegman. ???? Only to be pulled out when anyone left of ctr are characterized as communists. As someone who actually worked with quite a few communists I know their viewpoint is that even social democrats like myself are fascists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, pegman said: Only to be pulled out when anyone left of ctr are characterized as communists. As someone who actually worked with quite a few communists I know their viewpoint is that even social democrats like myself are fascists. Actually many Guardian columnists are self declared Communists. Ash Sarkar is one that I already mentioned. I was merely stating the facts. The Guardian is an extremely biased, hard left rag. To declare that it is widely known as the best English newspaper in the world is ludicrous. Unless of course, by "widely known" you actually mean "within hard left echo chambers". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Mavideol said: the same person who said 2 days ago " I am a fighter not a quitter"" ???????????? I've had KFC in the fridge longer than her tenure. Do you think she'll include that job on her CV or will she give it a miss ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s an accusation that can be justifiably laid against the Daily Mail, The Express and the Times. Historical facts. Really? These newspapers promote a system of government led by a Dictator, ruling by force and violently suppressing criticism? Who knew? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I knew she was going to be useless ,when I seen her make the "Pork Belly's" speech , I don't see anyone in any political party that can get the country out of the mess it's in, it needs a strong leader like Winston Churchill or Maggie Thatcher , and there is just not anyone of that caliber around.....they are all muppets ,Boris Johnson the biggest, although he will be most likely be the front runner , regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Actually many Guardian columnists are self declared Communists. Ash Sarkar is one that I already mentioned. I was merely stating the facts. The Guardian is an extremely biased, hard left rag. To declare that it is widely known as the best English newspaper in the world is ludicrous. Unless of course, by "widely known" you actually mean "within hard left echo chambers". One self declared columnist does not make the Guardian a communist newspaper. The political direction of the paper is determined by the owners and the editor in chief. The Guardian is left of center, it cannot reasonably be called ‘extreme’ anything or ‘hard left’. The Guardian does rather well at winning journalism awards and has been the first publisher of many of the most important news stories of the past three decades. Getting you back on topic, The Guardian’s coverage of Truss, her leadership and her failings was spot on. Unlike the rightwing Press that supported Truss, The Guardian isn’t busy doing an about face right now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Oh, please, you tried getting away with that one once. She's not a member of the editorial board. Her views don't represent the Guardian's. What makes your comment especially ridiculous is that the Guardian backed the UK's participation in the 2nd Iraq war. Along with virtually all the Conservatives and unlike the left wing of the Labor Party. And who are all these communist columnists? Here's a list of the Guardian's columnists. Can you share with us which ones are Communists? If not, you should stop spreading falsehoods. George Monbiot Aditya Chakrabortty Marina Hyde Zoe Williams Polly Toynbee Frances Ryan Owen Jones Jonathan Freedland Simon Jenkins Martin Kettle Natalie Nougayrède Afua Hirsch Timothy Garton Ash Hugh Muir Hadley Freeman Gaby Hinsliff John Harris Charlotte Higgins Rafael Behr Nesrine Malik Richard Adams Anushka Asthana Owen Bowcott Libby Brooks Severin Carrell Gabrielle Chan John Crace Paul Daley Helen Davidson Ben Doherty Lauren Gambino Jessica Glenza Amelia Hill Felicity Lawrence David Marr Rowena Mason Justin McCurry Katharine Murphy Helen Pidd Ed Pilkington Opinion Richard Ackland Van Badham Frankie Boyle Adam Brereton Emma Brockes Oliver Burkeman Aditya Chakrabortty Nick Cohen Victoria Coren Mitchell Barbara Ellen Jonathan Freedland Hannah Giorgis Will Hutton Simon Jenkins Financial Sarah Butler Rob Davies Larry Elliott Simon Goodley Phillip Inman Julia Kollewe Angela Monaghan Rupert Neate Richard Partington Nils Pratley Dominic Rushe Mark Sweney Graeme Wearden Zoe Wood Fiona Harvey Damian Carrington Oliver Milman Adam Vaughan Matthew Taylor Liz Ford Sandra Laville Jonathan Watts Prove to me that they are not supporters of Communism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Nobody owes you a list of the political beliefs of Guardian columnists. You’ve made an assertion that you refuse to back up. It’s nobody else’s job to prove your assertions. You are asserting that it is not a Communist rag. So back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, baboon said: I am not the one who stated categorically that many Guardian columnists are self declared communists. You are. The onus is on you to back your assertion or face ridicule. You are asserting that there are not many Guardian columnists that are Communists. So back up your statement. Go on, run along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, JonnyF said: Prove to me that they are not supporters of Communism. Honorable people back up their assertions. Others say things like "Prove to me that they are not supporters of Communism." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Honorable people back up their assertions. Others say things like "Prove to me that they are not supporters of Communism." The onus is on you as much as it is on me. Do you lack honour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: You are asserting that there are not many Guardian columnists that are Communists. So back up your statement. Go on, run along... Where did I make that assertion? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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