Popular Post webfact Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 Opinion – By Ken Mathis Lohatepanont Thailand would need to adapt its geopolitical game and its economic revival plans after the conclusion of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)’s 20th National Congress, whereas widely expected, President Xi Jinping secured a 3rd term as the CCP’s general secretary. Given its opaque politics, the party congress, which happens once every 5-years, provides an important window into understanding China and its leadership. What were the key takeaways from the party congress, especially for Thailand, for whom China remains a top trading partner? Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/45368/opinion-thailand-needs-to-buck-up-its-geopolitical-game-and-economic-masterplan-after-xi-takes-up-3rd-term/ -- © Copyright Thai Enquirer 2022-10-25 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 From the attached link, it appears Thailand has spoken and made predictions, well hopes and when it comes to tourism wishes, and now may be in trouble of reaching there goals for the year. The new LTR visa, which I was able to obtain, will not get them 1 million as they hoped as the original BOI LTR visa classes have not yielded more than 1k so far. Thailand has tried to spread the gap, but the global economy and China's Zero Covid policy are very tight as far as travelers it wod seem. Here is the clipped quote from the link: "As recently as September, Thailand’s Tourism and Sports Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakan had hoped that Xi would relax restrictions and allow outbound tourism in December, allowing 1.5 million Chinese travelers to visit Thailand. Those hopes now look entirely unfounded, and Thailand will have to make do with its campaign to attract more American, European and Indian tourists" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RandolphGB Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 Thailand and masterplan are two words that should never be used together. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gknrd Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Yeah, Thailand is facing some tough times in the tourist arena IMHO. China has a very low covid count and it would be the perfect time to bring in a GOOD vaccine to put an end to the lockdown. But, it looks like it is now a designed lockdown to last for years to come. This kind of things leads me to believe China has some very serious internal problems that cannot be solved. What an utter mess. Thailand bought into Chinas plan and it is costing them literally billions of dollars from wealthy baby boomers and western tourists. At this point Thailand can backtrack and try to win back my dollars , but I have no trust in them now and never will again. My dollars are gone for good. Edited October 25, 2022 by Gknrd 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Bow to the Emperor (for life) Xi! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 ''Masterplan'' ? Don't make me laugh or i may spit out my Lunch ! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, trainman34014 said: ''Masterplan'' ? Don't make me laugh or i may spit out my Lunch ! Thailand always has a " Master Plan" of some kind for every situation that comes their way. However ! What they dont possess, is the cognitive thinking required to actually make their Plans work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ourmanflint Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 Chinese tourists are not coming back anytime soon, communism is back big time and Xi will continue to amass power to himself. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 hours ago, webfact said: especially for Thailand, for whom China remains a top trading partner? Is this still true ? I'd expect that trade with China is way down since Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Nothing good will come from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabang Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 China seems to prepare for a long closure. I have read reports that the covid infrastructure is in place to stay for a few years at least and the contracts of personnel responsible of taking care of covid related tasks have been extended by a couple years. Not sure how reliable this information is but nothing suggests any big easing of restrictions happening any time soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Unfortunately the current crop of Muppets in government have the intellect of a grain of sand so talk of master plans and geopolitical nous are pointless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 22 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand would need to adapt its geopolitical game and its economic revival plans after the conclusion of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)’s 20th National Congress, whereas widely expected, President Xi Jinping secured a 3rd term as the CCP’s general secretary. Pryuts doing his best to emulate Xi, by staying in power as long as possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 22 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Those hopes now look entirely unfounded, and Thailand will have to make do with its campaign to attract more American, European and Indian tourists" With the economical impact about to hit the west over the winter don't count on it.. UK is in free-fall at the moment, so they will be saving funds to heat the home and not go on holiday.. [ Actually it might be cheaper to lock-up the house and go away for the winter] Indians to the rescue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highend Expat Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 23 hours ago, Gknrd said: China has a very low covid count and it would be the perfect time to bring in a GOOD vaccine to put an end to the lockdown. Sorry. If you believe China has a very low covid count, purely on their own reported statistics, then I urge you to consider if you really understand what's happening in China. As for bringing in a good vaccine, they tried to steal the mRNA tech and when they couldn't tried to get Moderna to hand over the tech to them, which failed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, hotchilli said: With the economical impact about to hit the west over the winter don't count on it.. UK is in free-fall at the moment, so they will be saving funds to heat the home and not go on holiday.. [ Actually it might be cheaper to lock-up the house and go away for the winter] Indians to the rescue. I agree, the Thai folks at TAT are grasping again at straws like they have for many years. The geo-political and economic issues are here to stay for a few more years I am afraid. Housing prices in the US are now dropping back downwards and the Interest rates for a 30 year mortgage are over 7%, which is where they were when I bought my last house 20 years ago in California. Folks I know that do have a little bit of money for traveling are hanging onto it as the recession fears are growing and they want to be safe instead of being behind the curve as those who have barely enough to get by now because of high prices scream at the government to help them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gknrd Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 32 minutes ago, Highend Expat said: Sorry. If you believe China has a very low covid count, purely on their own reported statistics, then I urge you to consider if you really understand what's happening in China. As for bringing in a good vaccine, they tried to steal the mRNA tech and when they couldn't tried to get Moderna to hand over the tech to them, which failed. You must be in China.. Fill us in on what is going on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highend Expat Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Gknrd said: You must be in China.. Fill us in on what is going on.. I have family and close friends in China. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 7 hours ago, hotchilli said: Pryuts doing his best to emulate Xi, by staying in power as long as possible. The good general must be feelng a bit envious of the news. Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen.............. (Xi is only one year older than him) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I don't think Xi's 0 policy is going to align with anything tourism related for quite some time to come, if ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/25/2022 at 1:57 PM, ourmanflint said: Chinese tourists are not coming back anytime soon, communism is back big time and Xi will continue to amass power to himself. Communism and Xi has been very good for China over the past 4 decades. No reason for them to change course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayArea Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/25/2022 at 8:23 AM, rabang said: China seems to prepare for a long closure. I have read reports that the covid infrastructure is in place to stay for a few years at least and the contracts of personnel responsible of taking care of covid related tasks have been extended by a couple years. Not sure how reliable this information is but nothing suggests any big easing of restrictions happening any time soon. In a strange way and perhaps a blessing in disguise for the rest of the world with Covid is that China has completely damaged and destroyed themselves from within with these draconian measures and restrictions without any outside interference or meddling. history will show us whether this was a strategic move by Xi or the worst decision they ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, BayArea said: In a strange way and perhaps a blessing in disguise for the rest of the world with Covid is that China has completely damaged and destroyed themselves from within with these draconian measures and restrictions without any outside interference or meddling. history will show us whether this was a strategic move by Xi or the worst decision they ever made. It depends on your perspective and priorities. In the eyes of the CPC, the overriding priority is the welfare of the citizens. They made the decision that life is worth more than money. We can agree or disagree with that sentiment but it’s not our right to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayArea Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 32 minutes ago, Gweiloman said: It depends on your perspective and priorities. In the eyes of the CPC, the overriding priority is the welfare of the citizens. They made the decision that life is worth more than money. We can agree or disagree with that sentiment but it’s not our right to judge. I beg to differ; I can judge all I want, and it won't make an ounce of difference on their policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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