British man sentenced for rape in UK flees to Thailand

[Merrill]

Unbelievable 1500 young girls raped in Rotherham more in Telford and little is done about it a handfull prosecuted, and out in a few months. They hunt him down to Thailand yet can't find Ali and Mohammed in the next street

Edited November 10, 2022 by Merrill
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[brianthainess]

18 hours ago, whereyougo said:

read the article !

 

18 hours ago, whereyougo said:

19 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Innocent until proved guilty, being charged does not make you guilty.

read the article !

I did read it, he was found guilty IN his ABSTANCE !

sorry if you don't understand abstance but should be spelt absence.

[ivor bigun]

3 hours ago, Merrill said:

Unbelievable 1500 young girls raped in Rotherham more in Telford and little is done about it a handfull prosecuted, and out in a few months. They hunt him down to Thailand yet can't find Ali and Mohammed in the next street

welcome to modern Britain,guess who rules there now

[Sydebolle]

Well, an UK citizen is sitting on a passport which is owned by the government and hence a court order can cancel his passport with immediate effect. 
Inform the Thai authorities which makes the fugitive an illegal immigrant. Now, instead of clocking overstay he then is extradited on a "laissez passer" being a "one-way/one-trip-only" identification paper for a repatriation back to the UK. 

Throw him into the slammer and keep him there for the full eight years (which is a joke as well; rapists should be, like pedophiles and drug dealers, facing the gallows) and then latest nail him for the costs involved in getting him back to the motherland. 

[Ginner]

On 11/9/2022 at 9:24 AM, lujanit said:

How can a man charged with rape not have his Passport taken off him and not placed on a no fly list?  This is a almighty screw up by the UK justice system.

How do you know he didn't use a fake passport, or enter Thailand illegally?????

 

[Jaybott]

Below is a snippet from Reddit.  Passports are technically property of the issuing government, not considered personal property of the holder.  A passport can be suspended or revoked at any time, even without notification to the holder.

 

 

 

Who owns my passport? : r/LegalAdviceUK - reddit
If you want to get technical, the government owns the passport. However it is issued in the name
of the Queen to the person stated within (you). The government owns the passport, the same for
licenses.
The person who it is issued to is allowed to possess it.

[BangkokReady]

On 11/9/2022 at 9:24 AM, lujanit said:

How can a man charged with rape not have his Passport taken off him and not placed on a no fly list?  This is a almighty screw up by the UK justice system.

Probably scarpered almost immediately, but the poor writing makes it sound like he was sentenced then fled.

[Zack61]

On 11/9/2022 at 2:45 PM, KannikaP said:

What's a SOP please?

I just hate these TLAs

What’s a TLA?

I just hate these CLCs

[lujanit]

On 11/9/2022 at 1:33 PM, ezzra said:

It seems that bumbling idiocy is not the sole character of one country only and it's everywhere, even in a country that suppose to know better...

As luck(?) would have it there was this bit of news in Australia the same day as this UK screw up was reported here.  The Sri Lankan was denied bail.  Obviously it depends on each case.  That the UK guy was granted bail I get.  Not considering he was a flight risk was a monumental fire truck up.  At the very least he should had his Passport removed.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-09/danushka-gunathilaka-court-documents-allege-he-choked-woman/101635018

[Sparktrader]

On 11/10/2022 at 11:19 AM, Ginner said:

How do you know he didn't use a fake passport, or enter Thailand illegally?????

 

Hard to use fakes now

[mlkik]

On 11/10/2022 at 12:04 PM, Jaybott said:

Below is a snippet from Reddit.  Passports are technically property of the issuing government, not considered personal property of the holder.  A passport can be suspended or revoked at any time, even without notification to the holder.

 

 

 

Who owns my passport? : r/LegalAdviceUK - reddit
If you want to get technical, the government owns the passport. However it is issued in the name
of the Queen to the person stated within (you). The government owns the passport, the same for
licenses.
The person who it is issued to is allowed to possess it.

So Camilla owns my passport then ?

[jacko45k]

On 11/9/2022 at 9:24 AM, lujanit said:

How can a man charged with rape not have his Passport taken off him and not placed on a no fly list?  This is a almighty screw up by the UK justice system.

The police in the UK are fully occupied wasting their time stopping motorway traffic as these protesting idiots climb up the overhead gantries!

[djayz]

Despicable piece of ...! 

Hope they catch him soon before he strikes again.  

[Sparktrader]

On 11/9/2022 at 5:56 PM, Lacessit said:

I'm not sure how the UK authorities could know he was in Thailand, he might have flown on to Laos or Cambodia.

Which the Thais would tell UK.

[BritManToo]

12 hours ago, lujanit said:

At the very least he should had his Passport removed.

What if he said he didn't have a passport?

[overherebc]

3 hours ago, mlkik said:

So Camilla owns my passport then ?

My guess is it's the King now.

[JayClay]

On 11/9/2022 at 7:51 PM, NoshowJones said:

Yes, but some have 2 acronym's ie IO Immigration Officer or Office.

But IO isn't a TLA; it's a TLA.

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

What if he said he didn't have a passport?

Then he cant go overseas easily.

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 11/9/2022 at 5:56 PM, Lacessit said:

I'm not sure how the UK authorities could know he was in Thailand, he might have flown on to Laos or Cambodia.

They don't know for sure. All they say is that "Police enquiries suggest he has fled [...] to Thailand."

Edited November 12, 2022 by GroveHillWanderer

[Harveyboy]

On 11/9/2022 at 9:30 AM, Mickeymaus said:

I will look for him in Pattaya. Among all the quality tourists here, he will surely stand out.

a lot of truth there quality tourists..Pattaya . somehow those don't belong in the same sentence eh ..

[Harveyboy]

On 11/10/2022 at 7:25 AM, Merrill said:

Unbelievable 1500 young girls raped in Rotherham more in Telford and little is done about it a handfull prosecuted, and out in a few months. They hunt him down to Thailand yet can't find Ali and Mohammed in the next street

very well said there mate biggest cover up in history regarding grooming of these poor kids by these vermin ..

[Gaccha]

There's a life lesson here. Always stay and defend yourself. Rape charges are often on the fairly flimsy evidence of false accusations, but if you flee and they hold it in your absence, you are screwed.

[Mac Mickmanus]

26 minutes ago, Harveyboy said:

very well said there mate biggest cover up in history regarding grooming of these poor kids by these vermin ..

It was all investigated and many of the offenders were prosecuted and jailed 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

25 minutes ago, Gaccha said:

There's a life lesson here. Always stay and defend yourself. Rape charges are often on the fairly flimsy evidence of false accusations, but if you flee and they hold it in your absence, you are screwed.

What if you are guilty of the rape ?

[Gaccha]

12 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What if you are guilty of the rape ?

Then you should serve your time. 

[The Fugitive]

1 hour ago, Gaccha said:

There's a life lesson here. Always stay and defend yourself. Rape charges are often on the fairly flimsy evidence of false accusations, but if you flee and they hold it in your absence, you are screwed.

Very good point. Can anyone be convicted in their absence? Doesn't seem right that you haven't had the opportunity to defend yourself. 

[ChaiyaTH]

On 11/9/2022 at 1:03 PM, Sparktrader said:

You fly to Thailand without a passport?

No but you could first travel to other countries, then enter a non-eu country by land, and then fly to Thailand. Nobody would know for this level of crime.

[ChaiyaTH]

On 11/9/2022 at 1:15 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

Let's see how quickly the extradition application works, just locating him means not a lot.  Vorayuth has not been found guilty in court of anything yet and the country that he's in probably doesn't have an extradition treaty with Thailand.

Totally different case and scenario, as Vorayuth has multiple nationalities, he is not wanted on any except the Thai one. He does not travel with his Thai passport either.

 

It's not that difficult to do this, you can get a carribean passport within 6 weeks from Dubai for around 150K USD. You never even have to visit there, you leave Dubai with the new one. These passports have easy access to USA, Schengen, Commonwealth countries etc.

 

So when doing a crime, you just need to make sure it's enough to buy that one lol.

Edited November 13, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[ChaiyaTH]

20 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Very good point. Can anyone be convicted in their absence? Doesn't seem right that you haven't had the opportunity to defend yourself. 

Obviously you can, else everyone would go into hiding. You have the opportunity to defend yourself when you have been served, it is your own responsibility to make sure you show up.

 

Many who fled here think that their debts are forgotten too, not knowing they have been convicted by civil court already, and it just waits for them to one day return / show up.

Edited November 13, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[Gaccha]

43 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

convicted by civil court already, and it just waits for them to one day return / show up.

That's in some ways worse, because a debt of 200 pounds could accumulate into 5,000 pounds with all the endless court costs, processing charges, fees etc. 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Gaccha