Data from Hunter Biden's laptop is real and was not planted by Russians looking to frame the Biden family: CBS News

[cdemundo]

On 11/21/2022 at 2:38 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

if he took kickbacks and did not pay tax on them then yes.

 

The censorship of this laptop, even though it had been corroborated by TB, and the Bidens did not deny it was real is the biggest scandal of our lifetimes. And it completely changed the political landscape - which I guess is why they are not sorry for doing it 

 

"79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election"

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

 

REAL election interference. I think will get answers now we have the house back. It is finally time for some honesty surrounding the Bidens.

 

 

So 79% of who?

So "four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal" respond in this way.

Proves what?

.

Point is, it depends on who you ask.

 

I hope the info will come out.

It seems like Hunter is no boy scout, but what is the extent of any scandal?

Remains to be seen.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by cdemundo

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47 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"Bobulinski has also identified Joe Biden as “the big guy” referenced in emails related to the Chinese deal that were uncovered on the first son’s infamous abandoned laptop, which were revealed by The Post in October 2020.

“The good news is Congressman [James] Comer and Congressman [Jim] Jordan have troves of documents that will corroborate all this — but 1,000%, Joe Biden is ‘the big guy,’” Bobulinski said Thursday."

https://nypost.com/2022/11/18/ex-hunter-biden-biz-partner-hails-gop-probe-into-first-sons-deals/

Mobileinski also claimed that he had incriminating evidence on his phones that would show Joe Biden's complicity. Investigative reporters from The Wall Street journal examined that so-called evidence and found nothing to incriminate Joe Biden.

[Saanim]

To be able to misplace (or forget) a laptop with such toxic info inside? That already tells something...  

[Eric Loh]

8 minutes ago, Saanim said:

To be able to misplace (or forget) a laptop with such toxic info inside? That already tells something...  

It does tell me that the laptop was probably a nondescript item that Hunter can afford to forget to pick up. Maybe that's what it is. Nondescript and nothing really incriminating which could explain why the FBI in previous adminstration didn't see much evidence for prosecution. 

[pomchop]

On 11/22/2022 at 7:44 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

The story wasn’t ‘killed’, unless you are claiming the likes of FOX were somehow influenced?

maybe trumpers should ask their messiah's messenger tucker carlson why he was asking for special favors for his son or investigate favors done for DJT spawn like Ivanka while they are trying to uncover all the " facts...."

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tucker-carlson-hunter-biden-son-college/?utm_campaign=Debunker 120822 (01GKSA1YTDE1CQ92A0M69APZGZ)&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Snopes Debunker

[candide]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know that is a false statement. Now, let's try again. Who is "the big guy" that would have his 10% held by Hunter. Answering this simple question highlights the sheer dishonesty in play from the last few posters who are still acting like the laptop is the "Russian disinformation" they falsely claimed it was.

Lol. The same lame right-wing trick of creating confusion by mentioning "10%" without  describing 10% of what, in order to make people believe it could be a bribe! ????

 

As commented to you several times:

1. It was about a share of a JV which was about to be created. When one becomes a shareholder of a company, one has to invest in its capital, not receive money.

2. The JV has been created and officially registered. Joe Biden was not a shareholder. 

3. There no evidence that this JV was linked to anything illegal

 

So, as previously, you have nothing.

[Purdey]

Getting very confused. GOP is making this its key political thrust in Congress?

Not abortion? Not healthcare? Not school shootings? Not infrastructure? Not immigration?

I am sure if Hunter Biden did something illegal he will, and should, be prosecuted. However, he didn't work in the White House for the President so it isn't as important as the orange ball who stole confidential documents (just thinking them unclassified doesn't work in the real world) and whose children had jobs at the White House surely?

Edited December 9, 2022 by Purdey

[Saanim]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Difference being the nudity and drug use are prima facie evidence for censorship while shady business has no prima facie evidence.

If it's not a "prima facie" evidence then what a surprise that so many "shady businesses" are not being prosecuted (or just some of them...) 

[Saanim]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

It does tell me that the laptop was probably a nondescript item that Hunter can afford to forget to pick up. Maybe that's what it is. Nondescript and nothing really incriminating which could explain why the FBI in previous adminstration didn't see much evidence for prosecution. 

"Nondescript and nothing really incriminating"? Wondering why so many high ranking officials have wasted their valuable time with that instead of pursuing real criminals.

 

If such "nondescript" info is laying staved away around what could be read in other laptops that are not so freely accessible to read by public? 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So the computer data, multiple other devices from other people also corroborating the texts and email chains, plus witness corroboration, plus no denial from Joe Biden is all "baseless speculation". I see. If only we had a witness that thought they overheard half a phone conversation of someone on the opposite side of their table in a busy restaurant half way around the world to say what they think they heard - the gold standard of evidence.

Indeed. If it were a laptop left by the son in law of a well known person that isn't popular with the woke, and had the very same info on it, I can be certain that those so eager to say that this is of no significance would be shouting from the rooftop that it is the smoking gun that will see that unpopular person incarcerated for several lifetimes.

LOL.

[candide]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Indeed. If it were a laptop left by the son in law of a well known person that isn't popular with the woke, and had the very same info on it, I can be certain that those so eager to say that this is of no significance would be shouting from the rooftop that it is the smoking gun that will see that unpopular person incarcerated for several lifetimes.

LOL.

Glad you mentioned it. Unlike Hunter, Kushner and Ivanka have been government officials (appointed by Daddy), so there is an obvious conflict of interest in both cases. And no need to spy on computers.

 

"Not only has Kushner’s presence in the White House made a mockery of federal guidelines designed to prevent nepotism and conflicts of interest, it has also raised national-security concerns."

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/jared-kushners-conflicts-of-interest-reach-a-crisis-point

"Kushner’s firm Affinity Partners made the deal shortly after President Donald Trump left office, despite a Saudi Public Investment Fund review panel’s concerns about “inexperience” and a due diligence review that was “unsatisfactory in all aspects,” 

https://nypost.com/2022/04/11/jared-kushner-gets-2b-saudi-arabia-investment-drawing-hunter-biden-comparisons/

"Ivanka’s Trademark Requests Were Fast-Tracked In China After Trump Was Elected"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/?sh=112f2cea1d60

Edited December 9, 2022 by candide

[riclag]

5 hours ago, Purdey said:

Getting very confused. GOP is making this its key political thrust in Congress?

Not abortion? Not healthcare? Not school shootings? Not infrastructure? Not immigration?

I am sure if Hunter Biden did something illegal he will, and should, be prosecuted. However, he didn't work in the White House for the President so it isn't as important as the orange ball who stole confidential documents (just thinking them unclassified doesn't work in the real world) and whose children had jobs at the White House surely?

“Despite offering no proof, Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign, along with many in the media, dismissed the laptop story as being a Russian-disinformation operation”.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/cia-veteran-who-signed-hunter-biden-laptop-letter-says-he-sarcastically-claimed-credit-for-2020-election

 

The  laptop contents wasn't properly investigated and exposed by the gop.,so other matters such as you suggest will be pursued no doubts about it. I would go out on a limb to say many on the left don’t even know about the disgusting contents, knowing how fervently  it lay silent to the mighty msm and fbi activists .imop

Some find it very suspicious that 50 intel agents , some working with the media, such as brennan and clapper, had signed off that it was Russian disinformation without having evidence to support their claims.

Some sources reported that because the Hunter laptop story from the NY Post was so ridiculously censored  by big tech platforms and other msm news it effected a percentage of the voters decision in choosing a candidate during the final days leading up to the 2020 election.

The gop reps have their  hands full exposing the suppression of that October surprise  and the effects it had on the vote imop.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

[Purdey]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

“Despite offering no proof, Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign, along with many in the media, dismissed the laptop story as being a Russian-disinformation operation”.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/cia-veteran-who-signed-hunter-biden-laptop-letter-says-he-sarcastically-claimed-credit-for-2020-election

 

The  laptop contents wasn't properly investigated and exposed by the gop.,so other matters such as you suggest will be pursued no doubts about it. I would go out on a limb to say many on the left don’t even know about the disgusting contents, knowing how fervently  it lay silent to the mighty msm and fbi activists .imop

Some find it very suspicious that 50 intel agents , some working with the media, such as brennan and clapper, had signed off that it was Russian disinformation without having evidence to support their claims.

Some sources reported that because the Hunter laptop story from the NY Post was so ridiculously censored  by big tech platforms and other msm news it effected a percentage of the voters decision in choosing a candidate during the final days leading up to the 2020 election.

The gop reps have their  hands full exposing the suppression of that October surprise  and the effects it had on the vote imop.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

Wow. And all that without a trial?

I suppose GOP will now drop everything to focus on this national security issue like they did over Benghazi.

[billd766]

9 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know that is a false statement. Now, let's try again. Who is "the big guy" that would have his 10% held by Hunter. Answering this simple question highlights the sheer dishonesty in play from the last few posters who are still acting like the laptop is the "Russian disinformation" they falsely claimed it was.

How do YOU know that it is a false statement?

 

Do you have any actual proof or are you making allegations as usual with nothing to back it up?

 

9 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

WHo could it be? This mysterious person that was making Jim Biden, Hunter Biden and Valerie Biden very rich in countries where vice President Biden held influence. Do you agree that it was his "drug dealer" as Credo claimed? 

 There is a good reason the left falsely claimed without evidence that this laptop was "Russian Disinformation". 

Even here you provide no proof.

 

8 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So the computer data, multiple other devices from other people also corroborating the texts and email chains, plus witness corroboration, plus no denial from Joe Biden is all "baseless speculation". I see. If only we had a witness that thought they overheard half a phone conversation of someone on the opposite side of their table in a busy restaurant half way around the world to say what they think they heard - the gold standard of evidence.

Still no proof that will stand up in court. If there was, then it would have gone to court a long time ago.

[candide]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

“Despite offering no proof, Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign, along with many in the media, dismissed the laptop story as being a Russian-disinformation operation”.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/cia-veteran-who-signed-hunter-biden-laptop-letter-says-he-sarcastically-claimed-credit-for-2020-election

 

The  laptop contents wasn't properly investigated and exposed by the gop.,so other matters such as you suggest will be pursued no doubts about it. I would go out on a limb to say many on the left don’t even know about the disgusting contents, knowing how fervently  it lay silent to the mighty msm and fbi activists .imop

Some find it very suspicious that 50 intel agents , some working with the media, such as brennan and clapper, had signed off that it was Russian disinformation without having evidence to support their claims.

Some sources reported that because the Hunter laptop story from the NY Post was so ridiculously censored  by big tech platforms and other msm news it effected a percentage of the voters decision in choosing a candidate during the final days leading up to the 2020 election.

The gop reps have their  hands full exposing the suppression of that October surprise  and the effects it had on the vote imop.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

So the claim is not any more that elections have been rigged, it's that Trump could not win without diffusing dirt on Hunter Biden.

Well, that's a progress! ????

Edited December 9, 2022 by candide

[CharlieH]

Off topic/ baiting posts and responses removed.

 

 

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7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Indeed. If it were a laptop left by the son in law of a well known person that isn't popular with the woke, and had the very same info on it, I can be certain that those so eager to say that this is of no significance would be shouting from the rooftop that it is the smoking gun that will see that unpopular person incarcerated for several lifetimes.

LOL.

Thanks for sharing with us your vision of an alternate reality. Most of us recognize this as a sub-genre of something called "fiction".

[candide]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thanks for sharing with us your vision of an alternate reality. Most of us recognize this as a sub-genre of something called "fiction".

This a very creative thread. Thaibeachlover writing fiction while Riclag is having a try at uchronia! ????

[heybruce]

13 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know that is a false statement. Now, let's try again. Who is "the big guy" that would have his 10% held by Hunter. Answering this simple question highlights the sheer dishonesty in play from the last few posters who are still acting like the laptop is the "Russian disinformation" they falsely claimed it was.

"Who is "the big guy""?

 

Are you unaware that scam artists make stuff up?  How do you survive?

 

The "big guy" may be in the same location as the Nigerian princes that need help getting money out their country and the pretty farm girls who's parents have a sick water buffalo.

[heybruce]

13 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"Bobulinski has also identified Joe Biden as “the big guy” referenced in emails related to the Chinese deal that were uncovered on the first son’s infamous abandoned laptop, which were revealed by The Post in October 2020.

“The good news is Congressman [James] Comer and Congressman [Jim] Jordan have troves of documents that will corroborate all this — but 1,000%, Joe Biden is ‘the big guy,’” Bobulinski said Thursday."

https://nypost.com/2022/11/18/ex-hunter-biden-biz-partner-hails-gop-probe-into-first-sons-deals/

A conman with an interest in selling the lie says "the big guy" is Joe Biden, and two MAGA Congressmen claim to have documents verifying this, but haven't released the documents.

 

I'll wait for real proof.

[heybruce]

13 hours ago, riclag said:

“The extraordinary revelation for the first time lays bare how the FBI was involved in pre-bunking the story of the laptop, which had been in the bureau’s possession for almost a year”. 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/fbi-warned-twitter-of-hunter-biden-hack-before-censoring-the-post/

 

 

which reminds me 

The intel agencies have six ways to Sunday to get back at you , part of the contexts was mentioned by 1 of the members of the Intel committees gang of 8 ,in a interview a few years ago. 

Me thinks the gop are gonna have much political fodder come after the new year, rightfully so ! Imop

 

When there are no facts to support your beliefs, you rely on paranoid assumptions.

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Indeed. If it were a laptop left by the son in law of a well known person that isn't popular with the woke, and had the very same info on it, I can be certain that those so eager to say that this is of no significance would be shouting from the rooftop that it is the smoking gun that will see that unpopular person incarcerated for several lifetimes.

LOL.

More pointless assumptions.

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, Saanim said:

"Nondescript and nothing really incriminating"? Wondering why so many high ranking officials have wasted their valuable time with that instead of pursuing real criminals.

 

If such "nondescript" info is laying staved away around what could be read in other laptops that are not so freely accessible to read by public? 

 

Help me out here:  Are high ranking officials wasting valuable time on the laptop, or are they intentionally ignoring  it? 

 

It seems it has to be one or the other, and we're getting both versions.  About the only thing the Trump supporters seem to agree on is that the FBI under the Trump appointed director could not be trusted.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, candide said:

Glad you mentioned it. Unlike Hunter, Kushner and Ivanka have been government officials (appointed by Daddy), so there is an obvious conflict of interest in both cases. And no need to spy on computers.

 

"Not only has Kushner’s presence in the White House made a mockery of federal guidelines designed to prevent nepotism and conflicts of interest, it has also raised national-security concerns."

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/jared-kushners-conflicts-of-interest-reach-a-crisis-point

"Kushner’s firm Affinity Partners made the deal shortly after President Donald Trump left office, despite a Saudi Public Investment Fund review panel’s concerns about “inexperience” and a due diligence review that was “unsatisfactory in all aspects,” 

https://nypost.com/2022/04/11/jared-kushner-gets-2b-saudi-arabia-investment-drawing-hunter-biden-comparisons/

"Ivanka’s Trademark Requests Were Fast-Tracked In China After Trump Was Elected"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/?sh=112f2cea1d60

Deflection.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, candide said:

This a very creative thread. Thaibeachlover writing fiction while Riclag is having a try at uchronia! ????

I've noticed that when certain posters have nothing to add to the debate they resort to personal attacks or attempt to demean those they disagree with.

Carry on, I'm agog to see your next illuminating contribution.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, candide said:

So the claim is not any more that elections have been rigged, it's that Trump could not win without diffusing dirt on Hunter Biden.

Well, that's a progress! ????

Hmmmm. Are you claiming that Trump was responsible for the information on the laptop, and leaving it where it could be discovered? If not, how can it be anything to do with Trump?

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17 hours ago, placeholder said:

Mobileinski also claimed that he had incriminating evidence on his phones that would show Joe Biden's complicity. Investigative reporters from The Wall Street journal examined that so-called evidence and found nothing to incriminate Joe Biden.

"Mobileinski" is why one should check the accuracy of "text-to-speech" before posting. It should have been "Bobulinski". In a perfect world, everyone's surname would be composed of just one syllable. It does say something about the creativity of the software, though, that not even google could find a good match for "Mobileinski".

Edited December 9, 2022 by placeholder

[Saanim]

9 hours ago, heybruce said:

When there are no facts to support your beliefs, you rely on paranoid assumptions.

Facts? You do care about facts? Who did it say, I do not care what the fact are...

[placeholder]

38 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Facts? You do care about facts? Who did it say, I do not care what the fact are...

Well, who? Don't leave us in suspense, please.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, Saanim said:

Facts? You do care about facts? Who did it say, I do not care what the fact are...

Did you read the post I replied to?  It wasn't posted by you, unless you also post under the name riclag.