Cannabis flowers become controlled herb - smoking rooms hit but little else changes

[webfact]

Picture: Thai Rath

 

An official announcement was, as expected, made yesterday in the Government Gazette effective immediately in the ongoing marijuana debate.

 

Cannabis flowers have now been declared the controlled herb part of the plant, reported Thai Rath.

 

Previously on June 16th it was the whole plant but following a free for all a compromise has been reached until the Cannabis Act comes into law next year.

 

Now the flowers that contain the most THC and are responsible for the pungent aroma on Thai streets in many areas are the controlled herb part.

 

And a few extra control measures have been thrown into the mix; mostly measures that will change nothing.

 

Flowers or buds cannot be sold to people under 20, students and undergraduates, as well as pregnant women.

 

They also cannot be sold in vending machines, according to the order.

 

Also advertising curbs are in place. 

 

Picture: Thai Rath

 

This was all expected and represents little change in how weed is sold and distributed in Thailand.

 

One change that may make a difference to how recreational users are behaving is that the gazette order now restricts the consumption of cannabis products on the premises unless it is for medical purposes.

 

This means that cafes connected to shops selling weed will have to stop allowing people to smoke or vape it on the premises. 

 

But for advocates of the legalization of marijuana - and many protested at government house yesterday against making the drug illegal again - there really is little change in this announcement.

 

Flowers will continue to be sold to consumers aged over 20 to be consumed responsibly elsewhere not causing annoyance to others. 

 

De facto recreational use of marijuana continues in Thailand as before.

 

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[ThailandRyan]

Damn, I was looking forward to a cannabis dispensing machine on every corner in front of the 7-11's where you could buy Drinks infused, gummies or even a pack of buds.

 

[bamnutsak]

34 minutes ago, webfact said:

And a few extra control measures have been thrown into the mix; mostly measures that will change nothing.

Yeah, other than classifying Cannabis Flowers as a "Controlled Herb" -  a new category - with no new controls. Not much to see here. Carry on.

 

Google Translation of new order gazetted yesterday....

 

The wait is over! Announcement of the Ministry of Public Health to provide bouquets of marijuana flowers It is a controlled herb and has been published in the Government Gazette. Do not sell to children, pregnant women, students. Do not advertise for commercial purposes. It is forbidden to sell for smoking in the establishment. Do not sell through vending machines.

 

On November 23, 2022, reporters reported that at the Royal Gazette website has published the announcement of the Ministry of Public Health on controlled herbs (marijuana) B.E.
Whereas it is expedient to revise the Notification of the Ministry of Public Health on Controlled Herbs (Marijuana) B.E. 2565 dated 16 June 2022 that has declared marijuana as a controlled herb valuable for study or research. or economically important to suit the current situation In addition, there has been a change in the regulatory system. Category 5 narcotic marijuana is a controlled herb during that transition. Only the inflorescence portion of cannabis should be controlled to prevent misuse of the purposes of protection and promotion of herbal utilization.
By virtue of Section 4 paragraph one, Section 44 and Section 45 (4), (5) and (6) of the Protection and Promotion of Thai Traditional Medicine Wisdom Act, B.E. 2542 (1999), the Minister of Public Health With the advice of the Committee on the Protection and Promotion of Traditional Thai Medicine Wisdom at its meeting No. 99-4/2022, the following announcement was issued.
Item 1 To repeal the Notification of the Ministry of Public Health Re: Controlled Herbs (Marijuana) B.E. 2565 dated 16 June 2565.
Item 2 gives marijuana, which has the scientific name Cannabis sativa L, family Cannabaceae, including other scientific names. synonymous only part of the inflorescence is a controlled herb
Clause 3. Any person who wishes to study, research, export, sell or process controlled herbs for commercial purposes. This can be done only after obtaining a license under section 46 and the licensee must comply with the following conditions:
1) Those licensed to study, research, export, sell or process controlled herbs for commercial purposes must: Provide information on sources, uses and amounts stored at the workplace. and provide information reports to the Registrar in the form prescribed by the Director-General.
2) Licensees to export controlled herbs for trade Export details must be notified. per licensor on a case-by-case basis according to the form prescribed by the Director-General
3) Do not sell controlled herbs. or processing controlled herbs for commercial purposes to people of the age under twenty years Pregnant women or women who are breastfeeding
4) Do not sell controlled herbs. or processing controlled herbs for commercial purposes to students student
5) Prohibit the sale of controlled herbs for smoking in the workplace. except for distribution by medical practitioners According to the law on the medical profession Thai traditional medicine practitioner Practitioner of Applied Thai Traditional Medicine Indigenous healers who have been certified according to the Ministry of Public Health Regulations on Indigenous Healers Certification B.E. 2562 and the amendments. According to the law on profession Thai traditional medicine Traditional Chinese Medicine Practitioner According to the law on practice of the art of healing and dental professionals according to the law on dental profession used to treat their patients. or a veterinary practitioner According to the law on the veterinary profession used to treat animals
6) Do not sell controlled herbs. or products processed from controlled herbs for trade Via automatic vending machines (Vending Machine) through electronic channels or computer networks
7) Advertising of controlled herbs is prohibited in all commercial channels.
???? Do not sell controlled herbs. or products processed from controlled herbs for commercial purposes in the following locations:
(a) a temple or a place for performing religious ceremonies
(b) a dormitory under the law on dormitories
(c) Public parks, zoos and amusement parks.
4. The licensee under section 46 must stay before the effective date of this announcement. only in the part that is controlled herbs according to this announcement Must also comply with the conditions specified in Clause 3 of this announcement.
5. Reporting form and detailed notification form for export of controlled herbs individually It shall be in accordance with the form prescribed by the Director-General.
6. This announcement shall come into force from the day following the date of its publication in the Government Gazette.
Announced on 11 November 2022
Anutin Charnvirakul, Minister of Public Health

 

 

 

Edited November 24, 2022 by bamnutsak

[Tropicalevo]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

consumers aged over 20 to be consumed responsibly elsewhere not causing annoyance to others.

And that is where it fails.

 

[bobbin]

For me the worst thing about the lack of clarity around the cannabis issue is that every (little) twist and turn just encourages the numerous anti-cannabis posters on the forum to show up and bewail the imminent collapse of civilization as we know it..

 

The average age of these posters, subjected to decades of anti-cannabis propaganda, explains their positions. They have lived their entire lives being fed BS and seeing people being sent to prison for this herb. Lives side-tracked. families affected by seeing their loved ones suffer for nothing..

 

Hear me, old dudes and those who can't adjust to changing times.. The Drug Wars are being wound down.. Drugs won. The people won. It was always about freedom of choice to consume cannabis or not. My body, my choice, just like the furor over abortion. Bodily autonomy.

 

The "antis" lack education and experience with the issue, but that doesn't stop them weighing in..

 

Once the issue is settled these people are going to have to be quiet and live with the new reality.

Edited November 24, 2022 by bobbin

[mamypoko]

Weed flower is the name of my hippy daughter. Son's name is Bud.

[Bert got kinky]

2 minutes ago, mamypoko said:

Weed flower is the name of my hippy daughter. Son's name is Bud.

 

I want to marry you.

 

[bradiston]

4 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Yeah, other than classifying Cannabis Flowers as a "Controlled Herb" -  a new category - with no new controls. Not much to see here. Carry on.

 

Google Translation of new order gazetted yesterday....

 

The wait is over! Announcement of the Ministry of Public Health to provide bouquets of marijuana flowers It is a controlled herb and has been published in the Government Gazette. Do not sell to children, pregnant women, students. Do not advertise for commercial purposes. It is forbidden to sell for smoking in the establishment. Do not sell through vending machines.

 

On November 23, 2022, reporters reported that at the Royal Gazette website has published the announcement of the Ministry of Public Health on controlled herbs (marijuana) B.E.
Whereas it is expedient to revise the Notification of the Ministry of Public Health on Controlled Herbs (Marijuana) B.E. 2565 dated 16 June 2022 that has declared marijuana as a controlled herb valuable for study or research. or economically important to suit the current situation In addition, there has been a change in the regulatory system. Category 5 narcotic marijuana is a controlled herb during that transition. Only the inflorescence portion of cannabis should be controlled to prevent misuse of the purposes of protection and promotion of herbal utilization.
By virtue of Section 4 paragraph one, Section 44 and Section 45 (4), (5) and (6) of the Protection and Promotion of Thai Traditional Medicine Wisdom Act, B.E. 2542 (1999), the Minister of Public Health With the advice of the Committee on the Protection and Promotion of Traditional Thai Medicine Wisdom at its meeting No. 99-4/2022, the following announcement was issued.
Item 1 To repeal the Notification of the Ministry of Public Health Re: Controlled Herbs (Marijuana) B.E. 2565 dated 16 June 2565.
Item 2 gives marijuana, which has the scientific name Cannabis sativa L, family Cannabaceae, including other scientific names. synonymous only part of the inflorescence is a controlled herb
Clause 3. Any person who wishes to study, research, export, sell or process controlled herbs for commercial purposes. This can be done only after obtaining a license under section 46 and the licensee must comply with the following conditions:
1) Those licensed to study, research, export, sell or process controlled herbs for commercial purposes must: Provide information on sources, uses and amounts stored at the workplace. and provide information reports to the Registrar in the form prescribed by the Director-General.
2) Licensees to export controlled herbs for trade Export details must be notified. per licensor on a case-by-case basis according to the form prescribed by the Director-General
3) Do not sell controlled herbs. or processing controlled herbs for commercial purposes to people of the age under twenty years Pregnant women or women who are breastfeeding
4) Do not sell controlled herbs. or processing controlled herbs for commercial purposes to students student
5) Prohibit the sale of controlled herbs for smoking in the workplace. except for distribution by medical practitioners According to the law on the medical profession Thai traditional medicine practitioner Practitioner of Applied Thai Traditional Medicine Indigenous healers who have been certified according to the Ministry of Public Health Regulations on Indigenous Healers Certification B.E. 2562 and the amendments. According to the law on profession Thai traditional medicine Traditional Chinese Medicine Practitioner According to the law on practice of the art of healing and dental professionals according to the law on dental profession used to treat their patients. or a veterinary practitioner According to the law on the veterinary profession used to treat animals
6) Do not sell controlled herbs. or products processed from controlled herbs for trade Via automatic vending machines (Vending Machine) through electronic channels or computer networks
7) Advertising of controlled herbs is prohibited in all commercial channels.
???? Do not sell controlled herbs. or products processed from controlled herbs for commercial purposes in the following locations:
(a) a temple or a place for performing religious ceremonies
(b) a dormitory under the law on dormitories
(c) Public parks, zoos and amusement parks.
4. The licensee under section 46 must stay before the effective date of this announcement. only in the part that is controlled herbs according to this announcement Must also comply with the conditions specified in Clause 3 of this announcement.
5. Reporting form and detailed notification form for export of controlled herbs individually It shall be in accordance with the form prescribed by the Director-General.
6. This announcement shall come into force from the day following the date of its publication in the Government Gazette.
Announced on 11 November 2022
Anutin Charnvirakul, Minister of Public Health

 

 

 

What's with the pregnant women ban? Are they not capable of deciding for themselves to puff or not to puff? Or breast feeding? How will the vendors check that out? Heads in the clouds, as per. And what man has EVER experienced the pain of child birth? Why are they being allowed to rule on this?

Edited November 24, 2022 by bradiston

[TingTonger]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Damn, I was looking forward to a cannabis dispensing machine on every corner in front of the 7-11's where you could buy Drinks infused, gummies or even a pack of buds.

 

Like cigarette machines where kids could buy lol

[TingTonger]

1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said:

And that is where it fails.

 

Fails What 

[Bert got kinky]

1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said:

And that is where it fails.

 

Still ranting against tokers.

You really do need to take that stick out of your ass, granddad. ????

 

 

[khunPer]

I presume that some bars that changed businessplan recently from beer bar to cannabis, might need to change businessplan again...

[ThaiFelix]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Now the flowers that contain the most THC and are responsible for the pungent aroma on Thai streets in many areas are the controlled herb part.

Many areas?  I'm not in Bangkok but I imagine this is a gross exaggeration......am I correct?

[JimboB4]

Uh yeah that’s what was expected ???? 

[JimboB4]

Stop the misinformation it’s not little change, it’s NO change. 

[JimboB4]

47 minutes ago, khunPer said:

I presume that some bars that changed businessplan recently from beer bar to cannabis, might need to change businessplan again...

Why would they? Nothing has changed. And since everyone is allowed to grow it you can’t stop people from selling it. They are just calling it “controlled herb” but they are not controlling anything. 

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, bobbin said:

For me the worst thing about the lack of clarity around the cannabis issue is that every (little) twist and turn just encourages the numerous anti-cannabis posters on the forum to show up and bewail the imminent collapse of civilization as we know it..

 

The average age of these posters, subjected to decades of anti-cannabis propaganda, explains their positions. They have lived their entire lives being fed BS and seeing people being sent to prison for this herb. Lives side-tracked. families affected by seeing their loved ones suffer for nothing..

 

Hear me, old dudes and those who can't adjust to changing times.. The Drug Wars are being wound down.. Drugs won. The people won. It was always about freedom of choice to consume cannabis or not. My body, my choice, just like the furor over abortion. Bodily autonomy.

 

The "antis" lack education and experience with the issue, but that doesn't stop them weighing in..

 

Once the issue is settled these people are going to have to be quiet and live with the new reality.

Not sure its purely an age issue, I and most of my friends are at least 60 years of age and I don't know anybody with strong anti cannabis views, not surprising really as I am quite selective who I associate with.  I think the strong anti cannabis views amongst the uneducated on this forum  are due to a personality disorder which leads certain unfortunate people to  unquestioningly believe  anything they are told by governments,   There are plenty of examples of this recently regarding the covid situatuion where certain members of society had the fear of god put into them regarding masks , vaccinations and other restrictions. 

These people really do need to wise up .....and shut up

[brucegoniners]

This is so frikin stupid.

[bamnutsak]

Just received this...

 

 

[riclag]

I don’t care what this govt does about the drug cannabis,other than keeping the THC( that alters the mind )levels minimal if possible !

Cant have the population high driving around senseless .

https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/cannabis-marijuana#:~:text=Marijuana is the most commonly used addictive drug after tobacco and alcohol.&text=Its use is widespread among,marijuana in the past year.

[DezLez]

27 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I think the strong anti cannabis views amongst the uneducated on this forum  are due to a personality disorder which leads certain unfortunate people to  unquestioningly believe  anything they are told by governments,

Are you saying that anyone who is "anti cannabis" is "uneducated" and has a "personality disorder"?

 

If so I think you are the "uneducated" one here who most definitely has a "personality disorder"!

 

A crass statement that does your cause only harm!

[PETERTHEEATER]

????.......'tho it's darker than December, what's ahead is a different colour, someday we're gonna get so high.......????

[LukKrueng]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Flowers or buds cannot be sold to people under 20, students and undergraduates, as well as pregnant women.

So one must have a master degree in order to buy?

Back to school, I guess... 

[Snig27]

5 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

And that is where it fails.

I find drunk people annoying. We should completely ban alcohol. 

[MrJ2U]

I'd rather have the death penalty for having marijuana rather than have Anutin as Prime Minister. 

[Snig27]

45 minutes ago, riclag said:

I don’t care what this govt does about the drug cannabis,other than keeping the THC( that alters the mind )levels minimal if possible !

Cant have the population high driving around senseless .

https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/cannabis-marijuana#:~:text=Marijuana is the most commonly used addictive drug after tobacco and alcohol.&text=Its use is widespread among,marijuana in the past year.

How are things in the 1930s? Has Japan invaded China yet? Roosevelt been elected?

I’ve know literally thousands of people who have smoked ganja for much of their lives and many are amongst the highest achievers I know. 

 

That link you posted refers to a long disputed and discredited NZ study for a start, and lists the mild symptoms of supposed marijuana addiction as:

• grouchiness
• sleeplessness
• decreased appetite
• anxiety
• cravings

Most people get that from too much coffee or a bad night’s sleep. Enjoy your rewatchings of Reefer Madness. 

[Bert got kinky]

4 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

I'd rather have the death penalty for having marijuana rather than have Anutin as Prime Minister. 

I'd rather have the death penalty

Is their anything that I can do to help? ????

 

[Bobydog]

3 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

I'd rather have the death penalty for having marijuana rather than have Anutin as Prime Minister. 

That Guy still confuses me, is he an Member of parliament or an army osifer,  talk about double standards, a good nip&tuck would be a good move.lol

[billd766]

5 hours ago, bobbin said:

For me the worst thing about the lack of clarity around the cannabis issue is that every (little) twist and turn just encourages the numerous anti-cannabis posters on the forum to show up and bewail the imminent collapse of civilization as we know it..

 

The average age of these posters, subjected to decades of anti-cannabis propaganda, explains their positions. They have lived their entire lives being fed BS and seeing people being sent to prison for this herb. Lives side-tracked. families affected by seeing their loved ones suffer for nothing..

 

Hear me, old dudes and those who can't adjust to changing times.. The Drug Wars are being wound down.. Drugs won. The people won. It was always about freedom of choice to consume cannabis or not. My body, my choice, just like the furor over abortion. Bodily autonomy.

 

The "antis" lack education and experience with the issue, but that doesn't stop them weighing in..

 

Once the issue is settled these people are going to have to be quiet and live with the new reality.

The problem with the lack of clarity is that Anutin and the BJP failed to do their job properly in writing the bill in the first place. If they had taken their time and consulted with all the interested parties, written and rewritten it until most people were happy with it, they would have been fine.

 

However they made a dogs breakfast of it, and kept modifying it and probably will for a long time yet.

 

They failed the 6 P test.

 

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/PPPPP

 

PPP PP    Proper Preparation Prevents P*** Poor Performance

[khunPer]

3 hours ago, JimboB4 said:

Why would they? Nothing has changed. And since everyone is allowed to grow it you can’t stop people from selling it. They are just calling it “controlled herb” but they are not controlling anything. 

If you read the news, you cannot smoke it...