Popular Post Scott Posted November 24, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 24, 2022 Tory peer Michelle Mone and her children reportedly raked in a thumping £29 million from Covid-19 personal protective equipment (PPE) contracts. After recommending PPE Medpro for £203,000,000 worth of contracts, it was placed on the ‘VIP lane’ that has faced claims that it prioritised companies with ties to the Tory party. According to documents seen by the Guardian, tens of millions of pounds of the manufacturer’s profits were crammed into an offshore trust that Mone and her adult children benefited from. https://metro.co.uk/2022/11/24/michelle-mone-received-29000000-in-profits-from-covid-ppe-firm-17820303/ 1 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted November 24, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 24, 2022 And, of course, this was just one instance among many of Conservative lowlifes battening off the illicit awarding of contract to those connected to the Tories. LEAKING VIP LANE NAMES DOES NOT GET THE GOVERNMENT OFF THE HOOK FOR PANDEMIC PROCUREMENT Our report Track and Trace was raised in Parliament this week as MPs sought answers to our findings that one in five Covid-19 PPE contracts raised red flags for corruption. Although Ministers were evasive, questions about these contracts refuse to go away. Last week, Politico published a leaked government list of 47 firms that won PPE contracts through the VIP lane during the pandemic, including who made the referral. The VIP lane, first revealed by the National Audit Office in November 2020, was a high-priority channel established for ministers, parliamentarians, and government officials to refer companies for consideration for PPE contracts. https://www.transparency.org.uk/covid-19-contracts-PPE-VIP-lane-latest-news Of course, what else could be expected of a party that chose the ethically-challenged Boris Johnson to be its leader? 4 1
Popular Post peter zwart Posted November 24, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 24, 2022 And there were and are more such practices. One of the reasons to keep shouting that "C" was so dangerous at the time. The money machine dictates and the sheep listen and follow obediently. 2 1 3
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted November 24, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 24, 2022 Knowing Michael gove really does pay well… https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/24/michael-gove-under-pressure-explain-role-ppe-deals-michelle-mone?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2022 Why does anyone ever expect anything different, Tories are going to Tory. It was sleaze that brought the last Tory run in Government to an end, and here they are at it again. 4 1
TKDfella Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 Well, I'm certain other countries helped a lot for mandating masks and some even suggesting wearing two, Ha! 1
roquefort Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 10 hours ago, placeholder said: Of course, what else could be expected of a party that chose the ethically-challenged Boris Johnson to be its leader? Not to mention the terminally incompetent Health Minister, now reinventing himself on a TV reality show.
hotchilli Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 23 hours ago, Scott said: According to documents seen by the Guardian, tens of millions of pounds of the manufacturer’s profits were crammed into an offshore trust that Mone and her adult children benefited from. Sick people.
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2022 Oddly none of the Government’s usual defenders are to be found in this thread. 1 1 1
Dionigi Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 These are politicians, 90% are in it for what they can get out of it. The other 10% don't get elected. 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Dionigi said: These are politicians, 90% are in it for what they can get out of it. The other 10% don't get elected. Another B.S. claim of both-sidesism. Almost always, this kind of thing comes from the right to minimize the sins of those they support. 3 1
Popular Post Tropposurfer Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2022 19 hours ago, TKDfella said: Well, I'm certain other countries helped a lot for mandating masks and some even suggesting wearing two, Ha! Yeah the nation that spawned more misinformation lies, insane conspiracy theories, denied common sense, denied accepted; proven medical practices than God Himself did such a stellar job with Covid huh. Over a million dead! Turned the matter of self and social healthcare into a dumb-as-a-brick narcissistic/paranoid/deranged narrative that it was all about 'my freedom'!! A leftist communist cabal plot to destroy American's freedom. The use of a photo by you of a gay couple in also noted. Given the text post you attached with it this photo selection is of no surprise. 1 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2022 This is the worse than it seems. Not only has this Tory Peer pocketed £29,000,000 in profits paid offshore, but the profits arise from the delivery of PPE that was not fit for purpose, the actual bill to tax payers was hundreds of millions of pounds, with nothing useful obtained in return. And it gets worse. These hundreds of millions wasted on PPE supplied by a chum of Gove on Government orders was marked down as ‘NHS Budget’. Tory sleaze, lies and the Tory Chumocracy in full flow, while medical staff were getting sick and dying through a lack of suitable PPE. 2 3
Popular Post SunsetT Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2022 Tory greed and corruption at it's very best. Grabbing what they can before abandoning the sinking Brexit ship that is the UK. 2 1
BangkokHank Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 7:35 AM, Chomper Higgot said: Why does anyone ever expect anything different, Tories are going to Tory. It was sleaze that brought the last Tory run in Government to an end, and here they are at it again. Right, only one party is honest - and it just happens to be the one that you support. Ha.
DaLa Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Oddly none of the Government’s usual defenders are to be found in this thread. Indefensible, even as a non voting conservative, I agree it’s absolutely wrong. Supports my position in not voting, but also proves my stance in not voting Labour either as we obviously will never know if the same situation would have arisen if Labour had been in power. Given that the Conservative party are more likely to have a leaning towards business it makes sense they had ‘friends’ that were in business. Doesn’t matter if that is wrong, it’s going to be a fact of life. There were many issues around the decisions made to mitigate the Covid-19 pandemic. Personally I would have hoped there would have been a greater cohesive policy created and managed by the WHO rather than individual governments that ended up confusing the issue with their divergent opinions and restrictions. Back to the op, I’ll side with the ‘it was morally wrong’.
TKDfella Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said: Yeah the nation that spawned more misinformation lies, insane conspiracy theories, denied common sense, denied accepted; proven medical practices than God Himself did such a stellar job with Covid huh. Over a million dead! Turned the matter of self and social healthcare into a dumb-as-a-brick narcissistic/paranoid/deranged narrative that it was all about 'my freedom'!! A leftist communist cabal plot to destroy American's freedom. The use of a photo by you of a gay couple in also noted. Given the text post you attached with it this photo selection is of no surprise. Ha, I didn't know they were a gay couple, it was just the masks I was referring to and nothing else was intended. Anything else about the two fellas you'd like to suggest I implied?
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 26, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, BangkokHank said: Right, only one party is honest - and it just happens to be the one that you support. Ha. The subject of the thread is a Tory Peer receiving offshore payments of £29,000,000 derived from a contract awarded her under the Tory Government’s VIP scheme. Nothing at all to do with any other political party. Your ‘whataboutary’ is noted. 3 1
bendejo Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 Republican senators in the US are turning green with envy as they read those numbers.
stevenl Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, DaLa said: <snip>also proves my stance in not voting Labour either as we obviously will never know if the same situation would have arisen if Labour had been in power.<snip> With that attitude, better stay in bed, you never know what might happen.
DaLa Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, stevenl said: With that attitude, better stay in bed, you never know what might happen. Quite the contrary, I’ve successfully managed to have full employment, better myself, help others and have a meaningful life without the nonsense that 1 party is all good and can never do anything wrong and the other party is immediately wrong in every decision or action they take. It must be a sad life for someone that goes into fits of depression whenever a decision by the party they don’t support slaps 2 pence on a pint of beer. It’s your choice if you want to wake up every morning of your life when your preferred party isn’t in power and live the day in mourning. 1
Dionigi Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 6 hours ago, placeholder said: Another B.S. claim of both-sidesism. Almost always, this kind of thing comes from the right to minimize the sins of those they support. Tony Blair and his wife 1,000,000 pounds each for speaking engagements after leaving office
placeholder Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Dionigi said: Tony Blair and his wife 1,000,000 pounds each for speaking engagements after leaving office But there's no subterfuge in that. It's right out in the open. Mone recommended a political ally's company and secretly profited off that recommendation. 1 1
stevenl Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, DaLa said: Quite the contrary, I’ve successfully managed to have full employment, better myself, help others and have a meaningful life without the nonsense that 1 party is all good and can never do anything wrong and the other party is immediately wrong in every decision or action they take. It must be a sad life for someone that goes into fits of depression whenever a decision by the party they don’t support slaps 2 pence on a pint of beer. It’s your choice if you want to wake up every morning of your life when your preferred party isn’t in power and live the day in mourning. Thanks, but not related at all to my post. You said 'glad I didn't vote labour because you don't know what they would have done '. 1
Knocker33 Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 7:35 AM, Chomper Higgot said: Why does anyone ever expect anything different, Tories are going to Tory. It was sleaze that brought the last Tory run in Government to an end, and here they are at it again. And you think Labour would have been any different 1
Chomper Higgot Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Dionigi said: Tony Blair and his wife 1,000,000 pounds each for speaking engagements after leaving office No longer in office, no longer controlling national policies and certainly not handing lucrative contracts to chums without the inconvenience of going through formal bidding procedures.
Chomper Higgot Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Knocker33 said: And you think Labour would have been any different Wait on there. I’ve stated actual Tory sleaze, you’ve come back with some imagined behaviour of Labour. One is based in fact, the other just dreamed up nonsense. 1 1
BangkokHank Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The subject of the thread is a Tory Peer receiving offshore payments of £29,000,000 derived from a contract awarded her under the Tory Government’s VIP scheme. Nothing at all to do with any other political party. Your ‘whataboutary’ is noted. Were you not implying that your preferred party is somehow superior? In any case, you do not get to decide what is discussed here. But your attempt at censorshipary is noted.
Chomper Higgot Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 10 hours ago, BangkokHank said: Were you not implying that your preferred party is somehow superior? In any case, you do not get to decide what is discussed here. But your attempt at censorshipary is noted. I suggest you refer to the top of the thread where you’ll find a very clear indication of what is the topic of discussion. 1
BangkokHank Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I suggest you refer to the top of the thread where you’ll find a very clear indication of what is the topic of discussion. At your (condescending) suggestion, I referred to the top of the thread to find an indication of the topic, and what I found was a mention of one specific person who engaged in corruption, which you expanded to include her whole political party - which, strictly speaking, is beyond the topic of this discussion. You did this because she is from the party that you do not like. I then expanded the topic somewhat to suggest that there are corrupt politicians in every political party. Do you - or do you not - agree with that point? I don't expect you to answer my question because you would never admit that your fellow socialists are anything but pure and honest. So I suppose that this is the point at which you will try to get this thread closed - and possibly even get me suspended - for engaging in the crime of "bickering". That's what you usually do when you can't win an argument. 2
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